Stanford study: Masks useless for Covid

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You might want to reconsider this link.

After a wander through the site I've found articles which are blatantly anti-semitic and openly pro Nazi. There's also a load of white supremacist garbage.

By linking to this site you are effectively condoning the content.

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I gave the link, not because it was a trusted link or a source I would reccomend but to get to a video I could not post that originally posted to Twitter (then deleted) and then posted to BIT...CHUTE (which is one word) but that platforum is censored by CF because of the word in the platforms name and so posting the original was not possible and posting the second wa also not possible which also makes it eay prey for those to go on tangents over sketchy sites and to disregard things.

And it was posted for the video only, and I wouldnt promote alot of the stuff over Youtube either linking there, just as I wouldnt promote all things on this site either by linking to it.
You got a video from a site that was blocked by CF, so you tried another that would conform to CF’s filters but instead it’s on a Nazi website and this is somehow BETTER?!
 
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You got a video from a site that was blocked by CF, so you tried another that would conform to CF’s filters but instead it’s on a Nazi website and this is somehow BETTER?!

The first site was blocked just because the name of it which consists of 2 words formed a banned word when put together. More of a technicality than anything.
The focus should be on the content of the video rather than the unrelated content of the website.
 
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You got a video from a site that was blocked by CF, so you tried another that would conform to CF’s filters but instead it’s on a Nazi website and this is somehow BETTER?!

No, I got a video I watched that was viral and I recalled it, and searched for it but it had gotten banned for criticizing the CDC, I found it again and grabbed the first site I saw and sent it to Aldebaran (between us two) but she ended up posting it (I did not). If I did I would have linked to the platform BIT....CHUTE but CF 's censors won't allow it over a technicality (as Alderan pointed out) and censors my ability to post from that platform. It does this because of website's NAME since its spelled B..I..T...C..H...(UTE) see it?

You're not paying attention.
 
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Did you get the COVID-19 vaccine?
I'll get the second shot in May, what's your point? The science is there, you're trying to be contrarian and act like you're an expert, when I never claimed expertise, you just haven't proven the contrary that you have a burden of proof to support that vaccines somehow don't work or otherwise go against over 50 years of study, if not nearly a century since we've used even the earliest forms of vaccines.
 
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The first site was blocked just because the name of it which consists of 2 words formed a banned word when put together. More of a technicality than anything.
The focus should be on the content of the video rather than the unrelated content of the website.
You realize you could render it as 2 words and convey the idea right? It's Bit-Chute...I don't think the censor is going to pick that up and it still talks about the site, though if it's the web address, yeah, that's kind of limiting.
 
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All those who get it because they want to should be enough for the herd immunity to be in effect. If those people are still fearful of everyone else, they can stay home because they're scared of that 5% chance of getting a virus that has a 1.14% chance of killing them.
You don't know what herd immunity is, we're not even certain what that number is: some people cannot get it even if they wanted to, but resistance to the vaccine has become this political nonsense that doesn't help anything except those who profit from the idiocy of the common people in one form or another by fleecing them for something that they claim is better with no real evidence behind it

Ah, victim blaming, that tactic never changes from those who apparently don't really care about anyone else except as they can benefit them.

Funny how that mortality rate has gone up, isn't it?
 
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It's also painful to witness how little thought actually goes into proving the efficacy of masks. This is a 2 way street.
Are they better than nothing?
That’s ALL the efficacy I need from them.
 
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When it comes to what we inject into our own body, would you like for someone to make your decision about that for you?
Nice false dichotomy, this isn't about forcing, it's about using discretion without being contrarian and resistant like a child that has to be forced to do something for their own good. You're an adult, right? Then act like it and stop playing the victim
 
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Are they better than nothing?
That’s ALL the efficacy I need from them.
Nah, they'd rather play Russian Roulette with 3 bullets in the six shooter and not care whether they or anyone else gets hurt in their little "game"
 
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I'll get the second shot in May, what's your point? The science is there, you're trying to be contrarian and act like you're an expert, when I never claimed expertise, you just haven't proven the contrary that you have a burden of proof to support that vaccines somehow don't work or otherwise go against over 50 years of study, if not nearly a century since we've used even the earliest forms of vaccines.

The real issue people have is that these particular vaccines were rushed into development and production, and released for "Emergency Use", which is not very comforting when we consider that most drugs take much longer to be released to the public, and many of them still end up being recalled, and then the lawsuits come.
So much more likely for that to happen with an Emergency Use drug. Can't blame people for wanting to take a wait-and-see approach rather than be an early adopter.
 
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Nice false dichotomy, this isn't about forcing, it's about using discretion without being contrarian and resistant like a child that has to be forced to do something for their own good. You're an adult, right? Then act like it and stop playing the victim

Did you notice your contradictions?
This idea that it's for my own good also contradicts the reasons I've been told that I'm obligated to get it. I supposedly have to get it for everyone else's good.
 
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How about listening to the experts? CDC Lies about Masks
Edit: link borked
Wow, a for-real “free speech” site?
I got a month long trip to camp cupcake for linking to rationalwiki, this might set you back months?
 
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It is the point. You are just trying to deflect from it b
You realize there's plenty of choices that are already made for you right? It's naive to think you have some absolute discretion in choice for everything in your life.
 
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Did you notice your contradictions?
This idea that it's for my own good also contradicts the reasons I've been told that I'm obligated to get it. I supposedly have to get it for everyone else's good.
No, it's both, that's not a contradiction, because the vaccine itself protects you, but there are other preventative measures that I'd bet money you're not doing either except by what you think is some oppressive tyranny rather than using rational sense to discern that resistance is little more than being a petulant juvenile.

And you fail to realize some people cannot get vaccinated period, it's very unfortunate, but it's a fact, many of them very likely wanting it, but they cannot for medical concerns. Your getting vaccinated is for their sake pretty explicitly because of the herd immunity principle that assures with enough people the virus has nowhere to go and will die out (but not necessarily be eliminated, since that's not how viruses work)
 
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Again, this is not the point and it beggars credulity that you do not know this!

What I (and a number of atheists, I might add) are saying is this: you have a moral obligation to act in the interests of others and get vaccinated. Nobody should force you, but that doesn't mean you do not have such an obligation.
No, you see they’re “saved”, they’re going to Heaven no matter what they do...so, if they don’t have to care...
 
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Sounds a lot like some of the leftist garbage I've been seeing about "whiteness", and how white people need to be ashamed of who they are and who their ancestors are.
Do you notice the similarity? We always warn about history repeating itself if we don't learn from it. Hard to learn from it when it's being erased/ignored/denied.
Are you just reusing scripts from “All in the Family”?
 
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Wow, a for-real “free speech” site?
I got a month long trip to camp cupcake for linking to rationalwiki, this might set you back months?

I thought I deleted that one. Well, now I have. I had posted it before for a particular video that was there. Another member gave the details about its origin. See post #85.
 
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