UFO's About To Be Revealed?

timothyu said:

And has lab assistants

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Absolutely... Only some of His lab assistance rebelled and they hate His creation and want to destroy the relationship with their Creator.

JacksBratt said:

Absolutely... Only some of His lab assistance rebelled and they hate His creation and want to destroy the relationship with their Creator.

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Angels that need space ships. Might explain the wheel within a wheel a turning, fiery chariots, the Christmas star, even the concept Mt Ararat is flat on top.

timothyu said:

Angels that need space ships. Might explain the wheel within a wheel a turning, fiery chariots, the Christmas star, even the concept Mt Ararat is flat on top.

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I must say that what you described in your post reminds me of the Book of Enoch.

Guinan said:

I must say that what you described in your post reminds me of the Book of Enoch.

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Yes? The end might be more clear if we hadn't rejected the beginning in order to make a tidy little religion.

Pavel Mosko said:

Oh I think there is some potential of an "End of Days Deception" where Fallen Angels, Demons, Nephilim or whatever appear as benevolent space beings who claim to have "originally seeded life on this planet long age, but now want to save us from our own destructive tendencies" much like in various Sci Fi films, except the aim is all the One World government under an anti-Christ figure.

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This is a really great conspiracy theory that I have considered before. Definitely a possibility.

Guinan said:

I feel that it's very arrogant to believe that humans are the only intelligent beings in our galaxy, let alone in the entire vastness of Outer space. It's highly improbable that we are alone.

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I agree with that idea but I think it's unlikely that extra terrestrials have already visited Earth.

It's also possible that if the UFOs in the footage are real solid objects, that they are just very advanced vehicles built by humans, sort of like in the book "Master of the World" by Jules Verne.

timothyu said:

Angels that need space ships. Might explain the wheel within a wheel a turning, fiery chariots, the Christmas star, even the concept Mt Ararat is flat on top.

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Angels don't need space ships.
I do believe that the UFO "space crafts" are part of the deception.

Guinan said:

I must say that what you described in your post reminds me of the Book of Enoch.

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The book of Enoch would, IMO, support the idea that UFO's are Satanic action.

Great book.

JacksBratt said:

I do believe that the UFO "space crafts" are part of the deception.

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The entire world man has created in our own image is built on deception.

Bobber said:

Tucker reacts to video of UFO confirmed by Pentagon - YouTube

(Just released the other day)

Folks look there was a time when this type of thing would cause smirks and laughter. Are things though getting a lot more serious now? I got my own world view on just what might be occurring but what about you? Serious stuff or just more things to laugh off?

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I think aliens are real.
I think they visit earth.
I don't know if the worldwide govt's are aware or not. If they are, I wish they would just hurry up and break the news...I'm bored of waiting. They probably will break the news very slowly, in dribs and drabs over a long period of time???
I don't care that much if aliens come here. I'd love to listen to what they have to say if they cared to speak to us.

We probably think we are far above the animals we share earth with. They are probably amused by that idea. They probably think we are a little bit more intelligent than animals, but nothing worth writing home about.
???

timothyu said:

The entire world man has created in our own image is built on deception.

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Sorry, I have no idea what this means.

Confused-by-christianity said:

I think aliens are real.
I think they visit earth.
I don't know if the worldwide govt's are aware or not. If they are, I wish they would just hurry up and break the news...I'm bored of waiting. They probably will break the news very slowly, in dribs and drabs over a long period of time???
I don't care that much if aliens come here. I'd love to listen to what they have to say if they cared to speak to us.

We probably think we are far above the animals we share earth with. They are probably amused by that idea. They probably think we are a little bit more intelligent than animals, but nothing worth writing home about.
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Hello "confused by Christianity".
As a Christian, do you have any support for the existence of other planets with life on them?
Just curious as I see no scripture or any text that would support this.

From what I see, people understand that these events and observations are not of this world. Then the narrative is put out there that, if they are not of this world, they are from some other far off planet like ours.


This is fine if you hold to the whole Darwinian idea. However, the odds of that happening once was slim on it's own. To believe it happened more than once is absurd.

Then, to read the scripture that our creator gave us, I see no mention of other worlds.

I feel that people create these other "worlds" to explain where these other beings must have come from.

Yes, I believe that these are beings and craft "not of this world". But, the other world is not some distant civilization. IMO.. they are of the spiritual realm... a different dimension. A dimension that is mentioned numerous times in the Word of God. And, these beings are beings that are 100% real and mentioned and discussed by the Holy scriptures...

Just my opinion.

JacksBratt said:

Hello "confused by Christianity".
As a Christian, do you have any support for the existence of other planets with life on them?

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None from the bible. I just believe it to be so. I speculate.

JacksBratt said:

Just curious as I see no scripture or any text that would support this.

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No, I don't think the Bible speaks clearly about the existence of life on other planets. I wouldn't really expect the Bible to tell me about aliens anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if a religious document did speak of other life, nor would I expect to find confirmation??

JacksBratt said:

From what I see, people understand that these events and observations are not of this world. Then the narrative is put out there that, if they are not of this world, they are from some other far off planet like ours.

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No comment. I don't really know about the evidence. I've heard some famous stories from people but I wasn't there. Nor can I tell all that well who is lying and who is insane haha I believe some, but wouldn't be shocked if I found out they were lies either.

JacksBratt said:

This is fine if you hold to the whole Darwinian idea. However, the odds of that happening once was slim on it's own. To believe it happened more than once is absurd.

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Yeah I don't really know the maths. Nor do I know what else God has going on that He doesn't tell us about. I assume we know very very little about what God has going on, and I assume what we do have through revelation is whatever we need at the time???

JacksBratt said:

Then, to read the scripture that our creator gave us, I see no mention of other worlds.

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I saw no mention either - one way or the other. None that's clear to me anyway. I suppose it's no different from anything else that scripture neither confirms nor denies.

JacksBratt said:

I feel that people create these other "worlds" to explain where these other beings must have come from.
Yes, I believe that these are beings and craft "not of this world". But, the other world is not some distant civilization. IMO.. they are of the spiritual realm... a different dimension. A dimension that is mentioned numerous times in the Word of God. And, these beings are beings that are 100% real and mentioned and discussed by the Holy scriptures...
Just my opinion.

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One of my assumptions was that there might not be such veil between the spiritual and the material as we seem to distinguish. Another assumption or thought I had was "space travel" might look more like what we would call "spiritual".
I had assumed the spirit world was all around us all the time, but we aren't intelligent enough to see it.
We can't put the pattern of other beings together because our brains are too small and senses too dull; Our culture and philosophy too primitive.
Perhaps viable space travel is more like moving consciousness through matter rather than trying to move matter through matter.???

Still not buying it.

The way they move they look a lot like the dot on my lazer pen when I'm playing with my cats.

No matter how the alarmists try to spin it, they are still just Unidentified Aireal Phenomenon. All that means is that they are not certian what they are but I bet the hidden government opinions, the ones the alarmists don't talk about, say they are a lot like hoaxes.

People just want to believe in them, which leaves things wide open for those with a super projector, or laser pen.

Confused-by-christianity said:

None from the bible. I just believe it to be so. I speculate.

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Fair enough.

Confused-by-christianity said:

No, I don't think the Bible speaks clearly about the existence of life on other planets. I wouldn't really expect the Bible to tell me about aliens anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if a religious document did speak of other life, nor would I expect to find confirmation??

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I actually think that God has been quite clear with us about the universe He created.... both physical and spiritual.

Jesus once said "if it were not so, I would have told you". I don't think He left us in the dark about such important facts that we would experience.

Confused-by-christianity said:

No comment. I don't really know about the evidence. I've heard some famous stories from people but I wasn't there. Nor can I tell all that well who is lying and who is insane haha I believe some, but wouldn't be shocked if I found out they were lies either.

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Fair enough.

Confused-by-christianity said:

Yeah I don't really know the maths. Nor do I know what else God has going on that He doesn't tell us about. I assume we know very very little about what God has going on, and I assume what we do have through revelation is whatever we need at the time???

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I don't think we know what is actually happening in Heaven on a day to day basis.. However, God did give us a lot of information of what is going to happen here and in heaven in the future.
Again, He didn't leave us in the dark about things that are important to our future and our salvation.

Confused-by-christianity said:

I saw no mention either - one way or the other. None that's clear to me anyway. I suppose it's no different from anything else that scripture neither confirms nor denies.

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Again, IMO, God would have told us if things like this did exist. He also would have known that they were going to cross over and make their presence known... I totally believe that He would have indicated that there were others.

Confused-by-christianity said:

One of my assumptions was that there might not be such veil between the spiritual and the material as we seem to distinguish. Another assumption or thought I had was "space travel" might look more like what we would call "spiritual".
I had assumed the spirit world was all around us all the time, but we aren't intelligent enough to see it.
We can't put the pattern of other beings together because our brains are too small and senses too dull; Our culture and philosophy too primitive.
Perhaps viable space travel is more like moving consciousness through matter rather than trying to move matter through matter.???

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I think that the veil between the two dimensions is thin... I think that there are beings being allowed to poke through more and more as time draws close to the end.

I 100% hold to the belief that we are the only world in this universe... created by God and given the Holy Scriptures as history of the past, guide to our lives and a window into the future. No other planets...

Confused-by-christianity said:

None from the bible. I just believe it to be so. I speculate.

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I also speculate, but I've witnessed two separate incidences in my lifetime that can't be explained with common knowledge or known science. I can't explain away what I've seen with my own eyes. I can't explain the first incident that was also witnessed by multiple people in the surrounding area or the last incident that occurred 36,000 feet in the air on a flight from Nashville to Dallas. I didn't alert anyone else during my last sighting except for my husband who was sitting right beside me. I was concerned that it would cause a panic among the other passengers and the flight was full. I can't explain many of the amateur UFO videos that I've seen over the years either. That's not mention the fact that there are too many credible eyewitnesses (Astronauts, Cosmonauts, Military pilots, Airline Pilots) for me to disregard their stories. TBH, these are the reasons why I believe extraterrestrials have visited Earth.

Confused-by-christianity said:

No, I don't think the Bible speaks clearly about the existence of life on other planets. I wouldn't really expect the Bible to tell me about aliens anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if a religious document did speak of other life, nor would I expect to find confirmation??

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I agree with what you've said in your above quote. The Bible doesn't say anything about helicopters, commercial airplanes, and advanced military aircraft. The Bible doesn't say anything about launching satellites into orbit or launching the Hubble Telescope into space or launching rockets into space or launching the space probes Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 into the depths of our solar system or launching men to the moon or launching people into orbit in space shuttles or launching multiple astronauts to an International Space Station that orbits the Earth. The Bible doesn't say anything about launching a dog or a monkey into Outer space either. But we know that all of these extraordinary events involving space travel I mentioned actually happened, despite the Bible not specifically telling us about them.

My point is, the scriptures that we have available in the Bible don't tell us everything there is to know. And speaking again of speculation, it's a popular opinion among ancient astronaut theorists that the Book of Enoch provides specific details and stories relating to the existence of extraterrestrials. It is also believed that the Book of Enoch was intentionally left out of the biblical canon to deliberately hide the existence of extraterrestrial life. I don't lean one way or another, but it is an interesting theory.

Guinan said:

...My point is, the scriptures that we have available in the Bible don't tell us everything there is to know. And speaking again of speculation, it's a popular opinion among ancient astronaut theorists that the Book of Enoch provides specific details and stories relating to the existence of extraterrestrials. It is also believed that this Book was intentionally left out of the Bible Canon to deliberately hide the truth of the existence of extraterrestrial life. I don't lean one way or another, but it is an interesting theory.

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I think the book of Enoch is referring to spiritual beings, not physical ones.

While it's not included among the scriptures (perhaps because Enoch himself almost certainly didn't write it) it has numerous tie-ins with them. For example, some of the beings in it also appear in the Old Testament and are members of God's divine council. Others appear in the New Testament and are called angels.

So if I read in Enoch about beings who came to earth from heaven and sinned, and then read in Jude that those beings are angels, then I consider Enoch to be referring to angels, not extraterrestrials. That's how I've come to think, anyway.

ChetSinger said:

I think the book of Enoch is referring to spiritual beings, not physical ones.

While it's not included among the scriptures (perhaps because Enoch himself almost certainly didn't write it) it has numerous tie-ins with them. For example, some of the beings in it also appear in the Old Testament and are members of God's divine council. Others appear in the New Testament and are called angels.

So if I read in Enoch about beings who came to earth from heaven and sinned, and then read in Jude that those beings are angels, then I consider Enoch to be referring to angels, not extraterrestrials. That's how I've come to think, anyway.

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The Book of Enoch is definitely an interesting read, I will say that. The Spaceships of Ezekiel and The Chariots of the Gods are interesting books to read too. Both of these books certainly challenged me.

JacksBratt said:

Sorry, I have no idea what this means.

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Everything of man is a lie.