UFO's About To Be Revealed?

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Some have misinterpreted verse 9 to mean the holy city is the bride of Christ, but that cannot be because Christ died for His people, not for a city.
Jesus died so the Father could once again live among the people. The Adversaryy is not beyond twisting that to have us make it about ourselves. It's what he and we traditionally do. People have even convinced themselves we go to Heaven and God rather than what Jesus said about Him coming here to a new world,. The Adversary will have no job or place in earth once the Father returns so it is in his best interest to have us keep thinking selfishly like we have always done since the Garden.
 
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I don’t see the problem from a Christian point of view. A few posters seem to think it would cause problems for YEC cosmology. I’m not sure it would, but we already know that’s wrong anyway. I don’t see why God would have had to tell the Hebrews the story of other planets.

I was interested in UFOs as a teenager. (I’m now 71.). There nothing in the new stuff that wasn’t in the Conlon report in 1968. It had suggested explanations for many sightings, but included a list of sightings that were fairly solid and very hard to explain. That doesn’t mean there’s no terrestrial explanation, either for old or new sightings, of course.
 
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Yes it is but God must be able to live among us first. Again, God comes first, we come later.,

Revelation 19:7-8
Ephesians 5:25-27
2 Corinthians 11:2

Please engage with these scriptures before we go any further.

What does this discussion have to do with OP regarding Tucker Carlson's commentary on UFOs?
 
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What does that discussion have to do with OP regarding Tucker Carlson's commentary on UFOs?
A possible contrast between alien and human thinking? :) Like I said earlier, man tends to be self centred. It will be interesting to see how aliens think, whether they too are fallen or above us.
 
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Oh I think there is some potential of an "End of Days Deception" where Fallen Angels, Demons, Nephilim or whatever appear as benevolent space beings who claim to have "originally seeded life on this planet long age, but now want to save us from our own destructive tendencies" much like in various Sci Fi films, except the aim is all the One World government under an anti-Christ figure.
UFOs belong to the new age movement!
 
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I will be glad if you will find something solid :)

I have to say I completely disagree with your way of thinking. Just because a book is written by a Christian doesn't make it unreliable, quite the opposite in fact. For me the first source was solid. God Bless :)
 
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Before I commence, I would like to say that I'm speaking as an amateur Ufologist and a member of MUFON. I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I've researched this subject for many years.

I've always liked to read and watch things on this subject for years as well. I don't put too much attention on it from any extreme standpoint find it periodically interesting. From what I've heard from some MUFON had some struggle among their numbers. Some wanted to go with strictly a material way of thinking about these things as in extraterrestrial and lot of others were starting to lean towards extra-dimensional meaning spiritual. I think Jacques Vallée from which Close Encounters was loosely based after a few years began leaning towards the extra-dimensional possibility above the other.

Personally, I think a disclosure of a large magnitude would be emotionally devastating and petrifying to the vast majority of Americans.
Why exactly emotionally devastating?

It would cause a massive widespread panic and perhaps even an economic collapse.

Wouldn't that all depend on what abilities they seemed to have and what their agenda was towards the human race?

An immediate disclosure would cause a serious crisis of faith for many religious people, especially for fundamentalist Christians.

Well I'm what you'd call a fundamentalist Christian. Actually I think the fundamentalist type would handle something like this better than other types as fundamentalists have talked for years about things that happened in Gen 6:2 and have speculated the possibility we could see it again. The point would be not to be deceived by what such beings would put out. Traditional religionists I think might be more rocked as I'm not sure many of them have given much thought to things like Genesis 6 and how many interpret it.
 
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It's also worth mentioning that astronomers estimate that there are around 100 billion other solar systems in the Milky Way alone. I feel that it's very arrogant to believe that humans are the only intelligent beings in our galaxy, let alone in the entire vastness of Outer space. It's highly improbable that we are alone.

The reality of the odds of other world’s existing that are capable of supporting life are as follows, from an article from Eric Mataxes:

Carl Sagan once announced that there were two important criteria for a planet to support life: The right kind of star, and a planet the right distance from that star. Given the roughly octillion—1 followed by 27 zeros—planets in the universe, there should have been about septillion—1 followed by 24 zeros—planets capable of supporting life.

With such spectacular odds, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, a large, expensive collection of private and publicly funded projects launched in the 1960s, was sure to turn up something soon. Scientists listened with a vast radio telescopic network for signals that resembled coded intelligence and were not merely random. But as years passed, the silence from the rest of the universe was deafening. Congress defunded SETI in 1993, but the search continues with private funds. As of 2014, researchers have discovered precisely bubkis—0 followed by nothing.

What happened? As our knowledge of the universe increased, it became clear that there were far more factors necessary for life than Sagan supposed. His two parameters grew to 10 and then 20 and then 50, and so the number of potentially life-supporting planets decreased accordingly. The number dropped to a few thousand planets and kept on plummeting.

Even SETI proponents acknowledged the problem. Peter Schenkelwrote in a 2006 piece for Skeptical Inquirer magazine: “In light of new findings and insights, it seems appropriate to put excessive euphoria to rest . . . . We should quietly admit that the early estimates . . . may no longer be tenable.”

As factors continued to be discovered, the number of possible planets hit zero, and kept going. In other words, the odds turned against any planet in the universe supporting life, including this one. Probability said that even we shouldn’t be here.

Today there are more than 200 known parameters necessary for a planet to support life—every single one of which must be perfectly met, or the whole thing falls apart. Without a massive planet like Jupiter nearby, whose gravity will draw away asteroids, a thousand times as many would hit Earth’s surface. The odds against life in the universe are simply astonishing.
 
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It actually would be a huge issue with too many questions against the legitimacy of the scriptures, leading to serious doubts in the God of the Bible. Which fuels many unbelievers today in my opinion. Many questions would then come to mind such as, well if there's other earth-like planets with alien life forms on it, well then did they sin? Was the Bible only written and preserved for us? Are they in need of a savior? Is Jesus savior just for us or for the life God created elsewhere, despite the scriptures stating this nowhere? In the Genesis account, why didn't God say He created this life as well as ours here on earth?

The Bible consistently describes God creating the earth, the sea, us in His image, the fish of the sea, the fowl of the air, the beasts that roam the fields, the creeping things upon the earth, and the stars, sun and moon all being set within the firmament for the purpose of knowing the signs, seasons, days and years. Also what was placed in the sky God specifically states is for the purpose of providing light upon the earth. There is no reason, when looking at the scriptures alone, to believe in life somewhere else in an endless and vast universe. I believe plainly that God put what He put in the sky for the purposes He describes and for that alone. He created this earth and everything in it for us.

I believe that if God did choose to create man on other planets somewhere, that he’d put them so far apart that they’d never interact.

It’s a big universe.
 
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First off you have to accept the Bible isn’t true about the age of the earth and the faux science that says the world and universe are billions of years old to be able to entertain the notion that these are natural visitations. I reject both and am quite sure any visitations anyone is seeing is supernatural in nature.

Whether these visitations are from God or the Devil it matters not. I can tell you one thing for certainty though. What a culture believes they will see.
When I first went to Africa I was warned about all the supernatural demonic stuff I would see by many people. Africans would tell me stories of demonic manifestations and witchcraft. I told everyone straight up I would not see a single thing. Demons are afraid of me and their only power with me comes by them fooling me. If they demonstrate some manifestation the jig is up and over with. I told them you guys see all that stuff because you accept those kinds of things as reality, or truth. Not to belittle them though I said. Don’t worry. People in the USA see all kinds of stuff too. It’s just they call the things they believe “science” and it opens the door to “scientific” demonic manifestations in their lives.

Haha. I have mused over the years how I would ruin everything if an alien ever showed up in front of the cameras and I was there. Faux Alien and awe struck crowds would be in for such a rude awaking. The crowds would agitate for my head afterwards.

Seems contradictory to say demons are afraid of you, and also that people see what they believe they’ll see.
 
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I wonder if it could go this way though. These things begin manifesting and let's just call them certain type of Christians become disillusioned by rhetoric by unbelievers, "See there your God believing viewpoint that humanity was unique just went by the way side!"

I think some might be so weak they'd fall for it especially when made to feel stupid if they question what these so called "benevolent" beings told humanity. To question what they say could be deemed being a dangerous conspiracy theorist and an enemy to humanity so therefore they swallow hook line and sinker whatever is said. = Falling away=

To serve man - it’s a cookbook!
 
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Oh I think there is some potential of an "End of Days Deception" where Fallen Angels, Demons, Nephilim or whatever appear as benevolent space beings who claim to have "originally seeded life on this planet long age, but now want to save us from our own destructive tendencies" much like in various Sci Fi films, except the aim is all the One World government under an anti-Christ figure.
I also consider the opposite because of the U in UFO. That Jesus Christ returns and people will think this is the anti-Christ because the equation UFO = Demons seems to be the consensus opinion here on CF.

Basically when something is unidentified, to assume it's identity with anything is defining something in ignorance.
 
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