No One Dared Question Him Anymore

Clare73 · Apr 18, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
Matthew 22:
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?”
They said to Him, “The Son of David.”
43 He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying:
44 ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’?
45 If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?”
46 And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did
anyone dare question Him anymore.

Are there any scriptures (besides Psalm 110 quoted), that would explain what
the Pharisees lacked in understanding the point being made in this discourse?

It was their practice to try to trap Jesus in his words.

So this is "turn about is fair play," trapping those who are always trying to trap him.

To have answered the question would be to acknowledge what they denied, that Jesus was the divine Son of God.

Time to stop trying to trap the one who just trapped you. . and they did not ask anymore questions, trying to trap him.

Clare73 · Apr 18, 2021

Michael Collum said:
The funny thing about this particular part of the gospel, each of the first three gospels have a different question after which no one dared to ask him another question.

It's the same issue in them, isn't it? David referring to the Messiah as Lord.

Gregory Thompson · Apr 18, 2021

Clare73 said:
It's the same issue in them, isn't it? David referring to the Messiah as Lord.

Not really, if you examine the order of the questions asked, a different last question is asked in each gospel.

Clare73 · Apr 18, 2021

Clare73 said:
It's the same issue in them, isn't it? David referring to the Messiah as Lord.

Michael Collum said:
Not really, if you examine the order of the questions asked, a different last question is asked in each gospel.

The Son of David (Messiah) is Lord.

"If then David calls him 'Lord,' how can he be his son?" (Matthew 22:45)

"David himself calls him 'Lord.' How then can he be his son?" (Mark 12:37)

"David calls him 'Lord.' How then can he be his son?" (Luke 20:44)

What am I misunderstanding here?

Gregory Thompson · Apr 18, 2021

Clare73 said:
The Son of David (Messiah) is Lord.

"If then David calls him 'Lord,' how can he be his son?" (Matthew 22:45)

"David himself calls him 'Lord.' How then can he be his son?" (Mark 12:37)

"David calls him 'Lord.' How then can he be his son?" (Luke 20:44)

What am I misunderstanding here?

Probably just missing a slight nuance.

The final question in the Gospel of Mark is "What is the greatest commandment?"
The final question in the Gospel of Matthew is "Who is Christ the son of?"
The final question in the Gospel of Luke is The Sadducees question on Marriage and the Resurrection.

This may appear to someone, that the gospel texts cannot get the story straight because they cannot agree on what the last question was before no one dared to ask Him any more questions.

However, in the Gospel of Mark is the last question from the Scribes, in the Gospel of Matthew was the last question from the Pharisees, and the Gospel of Luke has the last question from the Sadducees.

See below for the passages I was referring to.

Mark 12
28 ¶ And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.

Matthew 22
41 ¶ While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David.
43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.

Luke 20
27 ¶ Then came to him certain of the Sadducees, which deny that there is any resurrection; and they asked him,
28 Saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man’s brother die, having a wife, and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
29 There were therefore seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and died without children.
30 And the second took her to wife, and he died childless.
31 And the third took her; and in like manner the seven also: and they left no children, and died.
32 Last of all the woman died also.
33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
39 ¶ Then certain of the scribes answering said, Master, thou hast well said.
40 And after that they durst not ask him any question at all.

Clare73 · Apr 18, 2021

Michael Collum said:
Probably just missing a slight nuance.

The final question in the Gospel of Mark is "What is the greatest commandment?"
The final question in the Gospel of Matthew is "Who is Christ the son of?"
The final question in the Gospel of Luke is The Sadducees question on Marriage and the Resurrection.

This may appear to someone, that the gospel texts cannot get the story straight because they cannot agree on what the last question was before no one dared to ask Him any more questions.
However, in the Gospel of Mark is the last question from the Scribes, in the Gospel of Matthew was the last question from the Pharisees, and the Gospel of Luke has the last question from the Sadducees.

So the gospel writers pretty much covered the waterfront.

Interesting points. Thanks.

See below for the passages I was referring to.

Silly me. . .I thought you were asking about the last question Jesus asked.

AubreyM · Apr 18, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
Matthew 22:
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?”
They said to Him, “The Son of David.”
43 He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying:
44 ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’?
45 If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?”
46 And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did
anyone dare question Him anymore.

Are there any scriptures (besides Psalm 110 quoted), that would explain what
the Pharisees lacked in understanding the point being made in this discourse?

Mark 12 would also be a good resource of when - No one dared to ask anymore questions too.

Davy · Apr 18, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
Matthew 22:
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?”
They said to Him, “The Son of David.”
43 He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying:
44 ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’?
45 If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?”
46 And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did
anyone dare question Him anymore.

Are there any scriptures (besides Psalm 110 quoted), that would explain what
the Pharisees lacked in understanding the point being made in this discourse?

Verse 45 that Jesus asked them is the main point.

The Pharisees admitted that Christ is the Son of David. Yet they did not understand Christ meaning a position other than just a flesh born man. If Christ is David's son, then Christ is simply a flesh offspring of David, and never could be anything else, according to their thinking.

So when Jesus asked them why David called Christ "Lord", they were stumped.

Davy · Apr 18, 2021

chad kincham said:
From David Guzik commentary:

While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?”

a. What do you think about the Christ? Jesus still asks this question today. When asked, “Who is the Messiah?” the answer determines our eternal destiny

2. (Mat 22:42 b) The Pharisees identify the lineage of the Messiah.

They said to Him, “The Son of David.”

3. (Mat 22:43-45) Jesus is not only David’s Son; He is David’s Lord!

He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying: ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”‘? If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?”

a. How then does David in the Spirit call Him “Lord”: The Pharisees were partially right in saying that the Messiah is the Son of David. But they didn’t have a complete understanding of who the Messiah is. He is not only David’s Son (a reference to His humanity), but He is also David’s Lord (a reference to the deity of Jesus, the Messiah).

b. This is the idea communicated in Rev 22:16: I am the root and the offspring of David, and Rom 1:4, which shows Jesus as both the Son of David and the Son of God. We must not neglect either facet of Jesus’ person. He is truly man and truly God, and can only be our Savior if He is both.

c. If David then calls Him “Lord,” how is He his Son? Jesus’ brilliantly simple explanation of the Scriptures puts the Pharisees on the defensive. They did not want to admit that the Messiah was also the Lord God, but Jesus shows this is true from the Scriptures.

4. (Mat 22:46) Jesus’ enemies in retreat.

And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare question Him anymore.

a. No one was able to answer Him a word: Logic and rhetoric have proved to be of no help in destroying Jesus. Now His enemies will resort to treachery and violence.

The one thing I simply refuse to do, is to apply the idea of 'humanity' to Christ's Salvation.

Lord Jesus had no beginning nor end, as He is God The Son, all things were made through Him as written. So He did never originally existed in a flesh body, nor does He need a flesh body to exist in Heaven now sitting next to The Father.

The flesh is of this 'present' world time, not the world to come. This is why Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15 that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

GraceBro · Apr 18, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
Matthew 22:
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?”
They said to Him, “The Son of David.”
43 He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying:
44 ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’?
45 If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?”
46 And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did
anyone dare question Him anymore.

Are there any scriptures (besides Psalm 110 quoted), that would explain what
the Pharisees lacked in understanding the point being made in this discourse?

Perhaps, this teaching on the examination of Jesus will shed some light on your question. Your answer begins around the 19:15 mark of the message.
https://www.livinggodministries.net...rchive/audio_files/examination_of_jesus_4.mp3

chad kincham · Apr 19, 2021

Davy said:
The one thing I simply refuse to do, is to apply the idea of 'humanity' to Christ's Salvation.

Lord Jesus had no beginning nor end, as He is God The Son, all things were made through Him as written. So He did never originally existed in a flesh body, nor does He need a flesh body to exist in Heaven now sitting next to The Father.

The flesh is of this 'present' world time, not the world to come. This is why Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15 that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

Close.

Jesus rose in a physical body, not of flesh and blood, but an immortal body of flesh and bone - no blood.

Luk 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

Luk 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

When He ascended to heaven it was bodily and physically, and He’s returning the same way, per Acts 1:8-11.

throughfiierytrial · Apr 19, 2021

Michael Collum said:
Probably just missing a slight nuance.

The final question in the Gospel of Mark is "What is the greatest commandment?"
The final question in the Gospel of Matthew is "Who is Christ the son of?"
The final question in the Gospel of Luke is The Sadducees question on Marriage and the Resurrection.

This may appear to someone, that the gospel texts cannot get the story straight because they cannot agree on what the last question was before no one dared to ask Him any more questions.

However, in the Gospel of Mark is the last question from the Scribes, in the Gospel of Matthew was the last question from the Pharisees, and the Gospel of Luke has the last question from the Sadducees.

See below for the passages I was referring to.

This may have already been stated, sorry for the redundancy if it were...
The Gospels contain minor differences because their source is various eye witness accounts and they were handed down to those penning the Gospels or by an eye witness himself. The differences are a reflection of natural gaps from the various witnesses...this makes them a stronger case not weaker in my view as well as the view of many others. We can find books on the harmony of the Gospels which are a compilation of the Gospels or an overlaying of them used to fill in the gaps...to the best of the ability of such authors...questions will remain as to the absolute full account. Remember Gospel of John reads
John 21:24-25:
This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true.
25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

Gregory Thompson · Apr 19, 2021

throughfireytrial said:
This may have already been stated, sorry for the redundancy if it were...
The Gospels contain minor differences because their source is various eye witness accounts and they were handed down to those penning the Gospels or by an eye witness himself. The differences are a reflection of natural gaps from the various witnesses...this makes them a stronger case not weaker in my view as well as the view of many others. We can find books on the harmony of the Gospels which are a compilation of the Gospels or an overlaying of them used to fill in the gaps...to the best of the ability of such authors...questions will remain as to the absolute full account. Remember Gospel of John reads
John 21:24-25:
This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true.
25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

The gospel of John was first quoted in the second century and is written in a style that implies the audience was not familiar with the story.

The first three gospels and the gospel of John have a vastly different format.

So when doing a comparative analysis, John doesn't really fit in with the first three.

The scripture quoted most likely refers to all the signature stories that are missing from the John Gospel.

One example:
Mt 26:13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.
Mr 14:9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.
In Luke 7:36-50 the story appears, but no John recollection of the story, possibly written in another generation and they forgot to add it.

This is why I say, the verse you quoted most likely refers to the stories left out that would have been considered signature to a "gospel."

throughfiierytrial · Apr 19, 2021

Michael Collum said:
The gospel of John was first quoted in the second century and is written in a style that implies the audience was not familiar with the story.

The first three gospels and the gospel of John have a vastly different format.

So when doing a comparative analysis, John doesn't really fit in with the first three.

The scripture quoted most likely refers to all the signature stories that are missing from the John Gospel.

One example:
Mt 26:13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.
Mr 14:9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.
In Luke 7:36-50 the story appears, but no John recollection of the story, possibly written in another generation and they forgot to add it.

This is why I say, the verse you quoted most likely refers to the stories left out that would have been considered signature to a "gospel."

There are however differences between Matthew, Mark and Luke as well. This is why one of the conclusions reached is these are from eyewitness accounts and round each other out rather than being identical accounts (nor needing to be identical accounts)...they make the case I think you'd agree.
Also, we do not know why John was not quoted until 2nd c. nor if it indeed was that late. He was exiled to the island of Patmos however and one might conjecture that his writings were slower in coming out to the churches because of this hardship.
I understand what you are saying however...and something to consider!

Davy · Apr 19, 2021

chad kincham said:
Close.

Jesus rose in a physical body, not of flesh and blood, but an immortal body of flesh and bone - no blood.

Luk 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

Luk 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

When He ascended to heaven it was bodily and physically, and He’s returning the same way, per Acts 1:8-11.

Lord Jesus' flesh body was 'transfigured' to the heavenly body, and kept the marks of His crucifixion. This is why Apostle Paul said this...

1 Cor 15:42-50
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
KJV

And per Apostle Peter...

1 Peter 3:18-19
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
KJV

The part of our being that is 'quickened' is our spirit inside our flesh, not our flesh. Like Apostle Paul taught, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither does corruption (i.e., flesh) inherit incorruption (spiritual body).

The world to come will be the heavenly spiritual dimension overlayed upon the earth. That is how God's Garden of Eden was once located upon this earth and He was here on earth living in it per Genesis 2. This is why Paul taught that on the "last trump" all still alive are 'changed' "at the twinkling of an eye", and that to the "spiritual body" he taught. Those of the resurrection are already in that "spiritual body", their flesh bodies having already decayed and gone back to the earthly elements like Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 says happens. But our Lord Jesus' flesh body was transfigured to the heavenly state, it is not still a literal flesh body.

2 Cor 5:1-3
5 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
KJV

As for why Lord Jesus told His Apostles to touch Him and referring to His resurrected body as flesh, that was because of their doubt in the resurrection. Per Genesis 18 & 19, the angelic spiritual body is able to eat man's food and live upon the earth. The resurrection body, which is a "spiritual body" per Paul, looks like flesh, can eat man's food and live upon this earth, and doesn't die, nor feel hot or cold nor pain.

I have given 4 Bible witnesses of this, 1 Cor.15; 2 Cor.5; 1 Peter 3; and Ecclesiastes 12.

Here is a secular witness:

honey badger · Apr 19, 2021

Davy said:
Lord Jesus' flesh body was 'transfigured' to the heavenly body, and kept the marks of His crucifixion. This is why Apostle Paul said this...

1 Cor 15:42-50
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
KJV

And per Apostle Peter...

1 Peter 3:18-19
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
KJV

The part of our being that is 'quickened' is our spirit inside our flesh, not our flesh. Like Apostle Paul taught, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither does corruption (i.e., flesh) inherit incorruption (spiritual body).

The world to come will be the heavenly spiritual dimension overlayed upon the earth. That is how God's Garden of Eden was once located upon this earth and He was here on earth living in it per Genesis 2. This is why Paul taught that on the "last trump" all still alive are 'changed' "at the twinkling of an eye", and that to the "spiritual body" he taught. Those of the resurrection are already in that "spiritual body", their flesh bodies having already decayed and gone back to the earthly elements like Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 says happens. But our Lord Jesus' flesh body was transfigured to the heavenly state, it is not still a literal flesh body.

2 Cor 5:1-3
5 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
KJV

As for why Lord Jesus told His Apostles to touch Him and referring to His resurrected body as flesh, that was because of their doubt in the resurrection. Per Genesis 18 & 19, the angelic spiritual body is able to eat man's food and live upon the earth. The resurrection body, which is a "spiritual body" per Paul, looks like flesh, can eat man's food and live upon this earth, and doesn't die, nor feel hot or cold nor pain.

I have given 4 Bible witnesses of this, 1 Cor.15; 2 Cor.5; 1 Peter 3; and Ecclesiastes 12.

Here is a secular witness:

just throw it out there

"Lord Jesus' flesh body was 'transfigured' to the heavenly body, and kept the marks of His crucifixion."

this is not biblically correct as he made it clear to Mary Magdalene that ... in his words "Do not touch Me, for not yet have I ascended to the Father.

they watched as He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight. “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen Him go into heaven.”…

chad kincham · Apr 19, 2021

Davy said:
Lord Jesus' flesh body was 'transfigured' to the heavenly body, and kept the marks of His crucifixion. This is why Apostle Paul said this...

1 Cor 15:42-50
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
KJV

And per Apostle Peter...

1 Peter 3:18-19
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
KJV

The part of our being that is 'quickened' is our spirit inside our flesh, not our flesh. Like Apostle Paul taught, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither does corruption (i.e., flesh) inherit incorruption (spiritual body).

The world to come will be the heavenly spiritual dimension overlayed upon the earth. That is how God's Garden of Eden was once located upon this earth and He was here on earth living in it per Genesis 2. This is why Paul taught that on the "last trump" all still alive are 'changed' "at the twinkling of an eye", and that to the "spiritual body" he taught. Those of the resurrection are already in that "spiritual body", their flesh bodies having already decayed and gone back to the earthly elements like Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 says happens. But our Lord Jesus' flesh body was transfigured to the heavenly state, it is not still a literal flesh body.

2 Cor 5:1-3
5 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
KJV

As for why Lord Jesus told His Apostles to touch Him and referring to His resurrected body as flesh, that was because of their doubt in the resurrection. Per Genesis 18 & 19, the angelic spiritual body is able to eat man's food and live upon the earth. The resurrection body, which is a "spiritual body" per Paul, looks like flesh, can eat man's food and live upon this earth, and doesn't die, nor feel hot or cold nor pain.

I have given 4 Bible witnesses of this, 1 Cor.15; 2 Cor.5; 1 Peter 3; and Ecclesiastes 12.

Here is a secular witness:

Jesus rose in the same body He died in, that’s why the grave clothes were empty in the empty tomb - His body was transformed as He rose, from a mortal body of flesh and blood, to an immortal body of flesh and bone - that’s why the scars are still there.

Gregory Thompson · Apr 19, 2021

throughfireytrial said:
There are however differences between Matthew, Mark and Luke as well. This is why one of the conclusions reached is these are from eyewitness accounts and round each other out rather than being identical accounts (nor needing to be identical accounts)...they make the case I think you'd agree.
Also, we do not know why John was not quoted until 2nd c. nor if it indeed was that late. He was exiled to the island of Patmos however and one might conjecture that his writings were slower in coming out to the churches because of this hardship.
I understand what you are saying however...and something to consider!

It is questionable at best if the Island of Patmos John is the same author as the John who wrote the Gospel of John.

A teacher looking for plagiarism tells would notice one author easily used more words per sentence than the other.

Jake Arsenal · Apr 19, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
Matthew 22:
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?”
They said to Him, “The Son of David.”
43 He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying:
44 ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’?
45 If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?”
46 And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did
anyone dare question Him anymore.

Are there any scriptures (besides Psalm 110 quoted), that would explain what
the Pharisees lacked in understanding the point being made in this discourse?

Jesus explains these things to the Pharisees many times, but they are unable to understand. There are hundreds of OT&NT verses explaining this, but I have included a few sections of scripture which best encapsulates what they lacked:

Jeremiah 5
21 Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not: 22 Fear ye not me? saith the Lord: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand for the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it? 23 But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone. 24 Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the Lord our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest. 25 Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you.

Jeremiah 9:6
Their dwelling place is in the midst of deceit;
Through deceit they refuse to know Me, says the Lord.

Matthew 13:24-30
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Matthew 25:12
But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

Matthew 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Luke 13:27
But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

Deuteronomy 10:12
And now, Israel, what doth the Lord thy God require of thee, but to fear the Lord thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the Lord thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 8:6
Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the Lord thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him.
Deuteronomy 4:29
But if from thence thou shalt seek the Lord thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
Deuteronomy 6:5
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Deuteronomy 30:2
And shalt return unto the Lord thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
Deuteronomy 30:6
And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Deuteronomy 30:10
If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.(Proverbs 1:7, Proverbs 9:10, Psalm 111:10)

Matthew 22:37
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mark 12:30
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Luke 10:27
And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

John 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

James 2:17-20, James 3:13-18, 1 Corinthians 3:1-3, Romans 8:4-8, Galatians 5:19-21

I pray that everyone reading this will humbly and prayerfully examine their own hearts.

throughfiierytrial · Apr 19, 2021

Michael Collum said:
It is questionable at best if the Island of Patmos John is the same author as the John who wrote the Gospel of John.

A teacher looking for plagiarism tells would notice one author easily used more words per sentence than the other.

That I do not believe...it is well accepted in the Christian world that John...the disciple Jesus loved...wrote the Gospel of John, I, II, III John and Revelation. These are inspired books as all are and writings mature as an author matures...so many factors to consider...why cast your lot in with the skeptics?

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