Democrats are planning to pack the Supreme Court – and pack it now

Michie · Apr 17, 2021

In a bombshell new bill, radical Democrats in both chambers are demanding that we increase the number of Supreme Court justices to 13, a move that's designed to blunt the impact of Donald Trump's appointments

April 16, 2021 (Family Research Council) – Now we've heard it all. Democrats, who were already the butt of jokes for calling childcare "infrastructure," have done us one better. According to House liberals, court-packing is too! In a tweet, Congressman Mondaire Jones, a New York liberal declared: "Supreme Court expansion is infrastructure." Like a lot of people, Senator Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) couldn't believe their eyes. "You just can't make this stuff up," she shook her head. And unfortunately, Democrats aren't. They're on the march to expand the court – no matter what they call it.

Apparently, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) isn't interested in whatever conclusions the president's phony commission on the courts comes to. Her party is ready to pack the court – and pack it now. In a bombshell new bill, radical Democrats in both chambers are demanding that we increase the number of Supreme Court justices to 13, a move that's designed to blunt the impact of Donald Trump's appointments. Led by Jones, Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) and Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) in the House and Senator Ed Markey (D-Mass.), the effort is an obvious payback to far-Left groups who think activist judges are the only ones who can do all their radical bidding.

"Republicans stole the Court's majority," Markey argued, "with Justice Amy Coney Barrett's confirmation completing their crime spree. Of all the damage Donald Trump did to our Constitution, this stands as one of his greatest travesties." If Democrats wanted to light a fire under the GOP, they succeeded. Republicans exploded in pushback, calling the idea "delusional." This "goes against everything we believe as Americans," House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy fired back. And it also, he pointed out, goes against what Joe Biden said he believed as a senator. "This just goes to show how far the Democrat Party has moved." We're talking about "overtaking a branch of government simply to have your control over a nation. It must be the scariest thing I've ever heard them do." Are there no common-sense or moderate Democrats left, he wondered?

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Democrats are planning to pack the Supreme Court – and pack it now

Stabat Mater dolorosa · Apr 17, 2021

What a surprise... I could see this coming a mile away. # un-democrats packing the SCOTUS.

As an outsider I'm sorry to observe that the US' are about to begin their democratic exodus.

Pavel Mosko · Apr 17, 2021

I'm angry about this, but also angry for Scotus their was a lot of screwy business with the election and they took the easy way out. So if John Roberts was simply interested in preserving the integrity and neutrality of the court etc. he and the rest of judges picked the wrong side. He was suppose to have hated Trump, and seems to have had a short memory how Obama tried to intimidate and lecture the Court during his presidency.

But we got a lot of screwy stuff going on with this election. Naked partisanship at some of those vote counting centers like the famous Detroit one. And this seems like a problem that is going to follow us into the next election. And Scotus didn't lift a finger when it came to looking at all that evidence.

Gnarwhal · Apr 17, 2021

I don't think we have any legal recourse either, they can ram whatever they want through Congress with majorities in both houses and a vacant specimen occupying the Oval Office to sign it when it passes.

Stabat Mater dolorosa · Apr 17, 2021

Is there anything prohibiting the GOP from packing it even further when they reclaim majority in Congress...?

Gnarwhal · Apr 17, 2021

Stabat said:
Is there anything prohibiting the GOP from packing it even further when they reclaim majority in Congress...?

I don't know. I suppose the Supreme Court itself could review whatever legislation comes out of Congress and strike it down as unconstitutional. That would be how the checks and balances are meant to work. If there was ever a time for the conservative justices to vote how we hope, it would he then (short of a review of Roe or something similar).

The frustrating byproduct of this whole mess is that we're at risk of slipping into tit-for-tat politics where all the incoming administration does is undo the work of the last. We're really already there, it just hasn't alternated in much of an extreme way just yet, although we're at least on our way after Biden signed dozens of Executive Orders within his first 1-2 weeks in office.

Basil the Great · Apr 17, 2021

I doubt that Sen. Manchin will support this plan, and if not, then it is doomed to fail.

zippy2006 · Apr 17, 2021

Basil the Great said:
I doubt that Sen. Manchin will support this plan, and if not, then it is doomed to fail.

It won't pass, but it's bad news that legislation is even being proposed.

eastcoast_bsc · Apr 17, 2021

Stabat said:
Is there anything prohibiting the GOP from packing it even further when they reclaim majority in Congress...?

Republicans can add or subtract if they gain the majority.

chevyontheriver · Apr 18, 2021

Stabat said:
Is there anything prohibiting the GOP from packing it even further when they reclaim majority in Congress...?

I guess not. Any party with the presidency and a majority in both houses can pack the Supreme Court with as many justices as they see fit. From 9 to 13 to 19 to 27 to 37. No apparent limit to silliness.

But if Biden, then Harris do it with some intelligence they can change America so that we have one party rule from here on out. So no need to go beyond 13. Thirteen and done.

chevyontheriver · Apr 18, 2021

Basil the Great said:
I doubt that Sen. Manchin will support this plan, and if not, then it is doomed to fail.

Time for him to depart the Democratic Party. Just as an independent he would shake the Dems.

chevyontheriver · Apr 18, 2021

Fenwick said:
I don't know. I suppose the Supreme Court itself could review whatever legislation comes out of Congress and strike it down as unconstitutional. That would be how the checks and balances are meant to work. If there was ever a time for the conservative justices to vote how we hope, it would he then (short of a review of Roe or something similar).

The frustrating byproduct of this whole mess is that we're at risk of slipping into tit-for-tat politics where all the incoming administration does is undo the work of the last. We're really already there, it just hasn't alternated in much of an extreme way just yet, although we're at least on our way after Biden signed dozens of Executive Orders within his first 1-2 weeks in office.

The Mexico City policies have been on again off again several times by executive order.
On with Reagan.
Off with Clinton.
On with Bush.
Off with Obama.
On with Trump.
Off with Biden.
But Biden undid more by executive order than any other president ever.

Gnarwhal · Apr 18, 2021

chevyontheriver said:
The Mexico City policies have been on again off again several times by executive order.
On with Reagan.
Off with Clinton.
On with Bush.
Off with Obama.
On with Trump.
Off with Biden.
But Biden undid more by executive order than any other president ever.

I don't know when this will happen, but I've had chats with folks about how the pendulum is liable to swing back towards the conservative end of the spectrum and we might see the inverse of what we have now elected into office. Maybe not in 2024 or even 2028 but at some point in the next couple of decades, it could happen.

Maybe if that happens and conservatives have a big enough majority in Congress and a president in the White House, then maybe we can actually legislate something akin to the Mexico City policy. If it's signed into law then it would be a lot harder to repeal as opposed to an EO.

Maybe I'm just delusional.

chevyontheriver · Apr 18, 2021

Fenwick said:
I don't know when this will happen, but I've had chats with folks about how the pendulum is liable to swing back towards the conservative end of the spectrum and we might see the inverse of what we have now elected into office. Maybe not in 2024 or even 2028 but at some point in the next couple of decades, it could happen.

Maybe if that happens and conservatives have a big enough majority in Congress and a president in the White House, then maybe we can actually legislate something akin to the Mexico City policy. If it's signed into law then it would be a lot harder to repeal as opposed to an EO.

Maybe I'm just delusional.

I think you are delusional.

Sorry. I did not mean that in an insulting way. Maybe you are just an optimist. Me? A pessimist to the core.

I think the pendulum chain broke with Harris - I mean Biden - no - I think Harris is wearing the pants here. I think there is no going back. Particularly no going back if they enlarge the Supreme Court. We're cooked then. The only way we will ever see change in government is by coup. And that's not a fun thing. I lived through an attempted coup overseas and I don't recommend it for us. Wokism is in charge. Our only way out is for some kid to say the emperor has no clothes. Short of that, they are in power and we end up drooling. Jesus wins in the end, but until then it's the downhill dog.

Gnarwhal · Apr 18, 2021

chevyontheriver said:
Sorry. I did not mean that in an insulting way. Maybe you are just an optimist. Me? A pessimist to the core.

No you're probably right. I hear "the pendulum will swing the other way" but part of me just sees that society will only get more corrupt, it can't be reversed this side of the second coming.

chevyontheriver said:
I think the pendulum chain broke with Harris - I mean Biden - no - I think Harris is wearing the pants here. I think there is no going back. Particularly no going back if they enlarge the Supreme Court. We're cooked then. The only way we will ever see change in government is by coup. And that's not a fun thing. I lived through an attempted coup overseas and I don't recommend it for us. Wokism is in charge. Our only way out is for some kid to say the emperor has no clothes. Short of that, they are in power and we end up drooling. Jesus wins in the end, but until then it's the downhill dog.

She definitely is, Biden can barely put on his slippers in the morning. There's no way he's directing policy. I agree expanding SCOTUS will be a point of no return for this country when (not if) they go through with it.

I highly doubt there would ever be a coup, if for no other reason than conservatives are soft. We may have "all" the guns, but we don't have the guts. We've seen that confirmed time and again since 2016. There's nobody with the right combination of brains and gumption to see a restoration of the United States to it's former glory (pre-14th amendment).

eastcoast_bsc · Apr 18, 2021

Fenwick said:
No you're probably right. I hear "the pendulum will swing the other way" but part of me just sees that society will only get more corrupt, it can't be reversed this side of the second coming.

She definitely is, Biden can barely put on his slippers in the morning. There's no way he's directing policy. I agree expanding SCOTUS will be a point of no return for this country when (not if) they go through with it.

I highly doubt there would ever be a coup, if for no other reason than conservatives are soft. We may have "all" the guns, but we don't have the guts. We've seen that confirmed time and again since 2016. There's nobody with the right combination of brains and gumption to see a restoration of the United States to it's former glory (pre-14th amendment).

The left wing Boston Globe when not doing stories on systemic racism do stories that defend Biden. They actually did a piece defending leaked information that Biden went to bed very early at night. They liberal splained how he is efficient and gets things done early. The reality is that he had a bed time snack of fruit cocktail put on his depends and went night night.

sorry for being crude but this is who we have defending us against Xi Jinping and Kim Jong Un. Putin is laughing at him.

Gnarwhal · Apr 18, 2021

eastcoast_bsc said:
The left wing Boston Globe when not doing stories on systemic racism do stories that defend Biden. They actually did a piece defending leaked information that Biden went to bed very early at night. They liberal splained how he is efficient and gets things done early. The reality is that he had a bed time snack of fruit cocktail put on his depends and went night night.

sorry for being crude but this is who we have defending us against Xi Jinping and Kim Jong Un. Putin is laughing at him.

Yeah he's efficient cause he's just a figurehead, there's a whole backroom of machinery that's the real brains of his operation. Biden's the old man from the first Men In Black movie who opened up and they found there was a little alien inside him operating controls.

He was installed by global powers precisely to make us weak in the eyes of other world powers. He's a tool to level the playing field for Russia and China and more importantly the UN and the Agenda 2030 people.

Stabat Mater dolorosa · Apr 19, 2021

chevyontheriver said:
I guess not. Any party with the presidency and a majority in both houses can pack the Supreme Court with as many justices as they see fit. From 9 to 13 to 19 to 27 to 37. No apparent limit to silliness.

But if Biden, then Harris do it with some intelligence they can change America so that we have one party rule from here on out. So no need to go beyond 13. Thirteen and done.

How is the average "Joe" (not the handpuppet of course) reacting to this?

LizaMarie · Apr 19, 2021

Yes Joe Biden is performing even worse then I hoped(and I of course did not vote for him at all, and dreaded him winning, but once elected, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt at least- unlike so many of my liberal friends who never gave Trump the benefit of the doubt and became "The Resistance" right off the bat.)I'm old enough to remember a time when people wanted any President here in the U.S. once elected to succeed. It's about the good of our nation. But no longer, it seems. It truly is "tit for tat." as mentioned above. Sad.
But Biden seems to be even a bigger figurehead then I feared, and makes me wonder who is running the country?
As for packing the court, even liberal justices such as Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Breyer are against it but of course they are trying to pressure Breyer to step down so there won't be another incident when a possible conservative President can replace him in 2025, if one is elected.

chevyontheriver · Apr 19, 2021

Stabat said:
How is the average "Joe" (not the handpuppet of course) reacting to this?

I doubt Joe Sixpack cares or even knows. Sometimes I wish I could be that blissfully ignorant.

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