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It doesn’t say that believe leads to regeneration. Right now this just looks like man’s teaching.
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"He who practices righteousness is righteous" (1 John 3:7)
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Apparently, ye must get yourself born again.
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I will accept Lord Jesus' response to Nicodemus over anyone else.
We are only given Spiritual Life by faith. And Spiritual Life is being born again. Unless you think born again does not mean Spiritual Life?
John 7:37-39 (WEB) 37 Now on the last and greatest day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink! 38 He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, from within him will flow rivers of living water.” 39 But he said this about the Spirit, which those believing in him were to receive. For the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus wasn’t yet glorified.
John 4:13-14 (WEB)
13 Jesus answered her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never thirst again; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life.”
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Yes, we all know there are such NT verses.
Butski, what do we do with all of the NT verses
which threaten loss of salvation?
Simple question.
Many will answer: "There are no such verses."
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When are we given life in the Spirit? Only after we believe.
John 7:38-39 (WEB) 38 He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, from within him will flow rivers of living water.” 39 But he said this about the Spirit, which those believing in him were to receive.
By faith, we pass from spiritual death to life
John 5:24 (WEB) 24 “Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life, and doesn’t come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
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I am in total agreement with you about all you have shared on this board. We are in agreement.
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The decision is not the faith that pleases God per se. You can even believe that God exists without "pleasing" Him. Look at Hebrews 11:6 where it says:
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him."
So, we have to believe in God's existence and seek Him before we even have that pleasing faith. Making the decision to believe in Jesus does not contradict the unability of humans to please God in the flesh. It is the step we have to take from flesh to spirit.
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So when he said that the Spirit does what it will, quite independently of anyone's putting it into obligation, and when he said "Ye must be born again" (not, 'you need to gin up some worthy faith so that you can become born again') He was just talking to the wind?
BTW the well of water springing up to eternal life doesn't say 'well of water causing eternal life', but I don't even need to go there --Again: HOW does one get this water? God gives it to those to whom he chooses to show mercy.
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IMO, from 1 John ...
If you practice righteousness, God considers you to be righteous.
Again, IMO, only the righteous will be admitted into heaven.
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What does the Scripture say? The water (the Spirit) is given to those who "drink" or "believe." Lord Jesus could not have made it any more plain to understand.
John 7:38-39 (WEB) 38 He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, from within him will flow rivers of living water.” 39 But he said this about the Spirit, which those believing in him were to receive.
By faith, we pass from spiritual death to life
John 5:24 (WEB) 24 “Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life, and doesn’t come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
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Truly, it seems that I must repeat what I've done dozens of times
... list the many NT verses that threaten loss of salvation.
Just as a quick and tasty appetizer ...
People who are (habitual/unrepentant) adulterers
will be cast into the lake of fire!
And some here will say this could NOT possibly apply to BACs.
I say, nonsense!
... list the many NT verses that threaten loss of salvation.
Just as a quick and tasty appetizer ...
People who are (habitual/unrepentant) adulterers
will be cast into the lake of fire!
And some here will say this could NOT possibly apply to BACs.
I say, nonsense!
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What does the Spirit will to do?
The will of the Spirit is to indwell and give life to those who believe:
John 7:38-39 (WEB) 38 He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, from within him will flow rivers of living water.” 39 But he said this about the Spirit, which those believing in him were to receive.
By faith, we pass from spiritual death to life
John 5:24 (WEB) 24 “Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life, and doesn’t come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
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Why did Paul say he didn't come to baptize, but to preach the Gospel?
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I agree that we need to live holy as a part of salvation (after we are saved by God's grace), brother. But I do not agree with the Modern Translations use of the word “practice righteousness” in 1 John 3:7. I believe 1 John 3:7 in the KJB is more accurate. It says:
“Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth [not practices] righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.” (1 John 3:7).
Doeth or Does righteousness is different than practices righteousness.
Rick who does lots of walking all day is not the same as...
Rick who practices lot of walking all day.
We would assume in the last sentence that Rick has a problem in walking sometimes so he needs to practice in walking in order to be like the other Rick who simply “does lots of walking all day.”
Jesus says, "sin no more" to two people (John 5:14) (John 8:11). John says "sin not" (1 John 2:1). If I told you to stop doing something, would you take that to mean that you simply meant that I was referring to how you should not practice such a thing? Surely not. Jesus would say, "Stop practicing sin." But that is not what Jesus said. Jesus said, "Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin." (John 8:24). How many times do you think you need to sin to be a slave to sin? It only takes one time. How many times did it take Adam and Eve to fall into spiritual death? Did they need to keep eating of the wrong tree to spiritually fall and send all of mankind into sin? Surely not. Eve bought into the lie of the serpent that she could break God's command and still be in right walk with God. The same lie of the devil is being pushed today.
#1. Numbers 35:16-18 says it only takes one act of murder to be a murderer; And Leviticus 20:10 says it only takes one act of adultery to be an adulterer.
#2. Jesus Himself regarded just looking at a woman once as an act of adultery (Matthew 5:28).
#3. John says, "No murderer has eternal life abiding in them." (1 John 3:15).
#4. Proverbs 6:32 says "Whosoever commits adultery with a woman lacks understanding: he that does it destroys his own soul."
#5. Jesus Himself says that just looking at a woman in lust (Which is adultery) is potential for a person to be cast bodily in hell fire (See Matthew 5:28-30).
#6. David needed to confess of his sin in order to be forgiven (See Psalms 51).
#7. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
#8. Revelation 21:8 says, "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Murderers and whoremongers will be cast into the lake of fire. All liars will be cast into the lake of fire. ALL liars, and not just some. NO murderer has eternal life abiding in them (1 John 3:15).
#2. Jesus Himself regarded just looking at a woman once as an act of adultery (Matthew 5:28).
#3. John says, "No murderer has eternal life abiding in them." (1 John 3:15).
#4. Proverbs 6:32 says "Whosoever commits adultery with a woman lacks understanding: he that does it destroys his own soul."
#5. Jesus Himself says that just looking at a woman in lust (Which is adultery) is potential for a person to be cast bodily in hell fire (See Matthew 5:28-30).
#6. David needed to confess of his sin in order to be forgiven (See Psalms 51).
#7. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
#8. Revelation 21:8 says, "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Murderers and whoremongers will be cast into the lake of fire. All liars will be cast into the lake of fire. ALL liars, and not just some. NO murderer has eternal life abiding in them (1 John 3:15).
Ananias and Sapphira were instantly killed and condemned by God for lying to the Spirit. This was just a one time sin. So it's not just practicing sin only that will condemn a believer. It only takes one sin to bring about condemnation or death. Believers need to confess sin and they need to battle against serious sin (mortal sin) so as to overcome it in this life. For it will determine our allegiance to who we really love in the end. For no man can serve two masters.
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