Why do Some Christians Get a Kick Out of Hating Gays?

Occams Barber said:

The 'No True Christian' argument is wearing very thin.

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It 's time to judge Christianity based on what it actually does collectively - not what it pretends to be.

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I think you're right.

With any religion or philosophy, there's going to be some difference between what we aspire to and what we actually manage to carry out.

But with that said, there's no excuse for the situations in which the collective actions of Christians are very very far from what we should be aspiring to. I think the church's treatment of gay people is one of these situations. You have every right to judge the Christian church on this.

NomNomPizza said:

if u say so , still if we went back to OT laws for example thief would have to pay 7fold what he stole , gay would be stoned to death it wasn't really equally evil.

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True enough but Jesus stepped in and reminded people that we are all sinners and if sin is sin, then we are all equally guilty in the eyes of God, regardless of the punishments man sets out. He let the adulteress go, so it shows that degrees of punishment are not set in stone. So are you perfect enough to condemn another (cast stones) for being in the same corrupted world, acting in our own forms of corruption?

timothyu said:

True enough but Jesus stepped in and reminded people that we are all sinners and if sin is sin, then we are all equally guilty in the eyes of God, regardless of the punishments man sets out. He let the adulteress go, so it shows that degrees of punishment are not set in stone. So are you perfect enough to condemn another (cast stones) for being in the same corrupted world, acting in our own forms of corruption?

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Let's say you have daughter or son and there is some guy who kidnaps them and then sends you video back home a video of him slowly dismembering your kid and sends you the parts plus his location. Do you forgive him or do you go to police to get him arrested?

Jaedan said:

Let me throw on my old Christian shoes real quick.

According to the bible, everyone sins. Non-Christians sin. Christians sin.

there are unbelievers who are racists, liars, etc. Likewise, there are believers who are racists, liars, and etc. Does this mean that unbelievers should not become believers? No, because every man falls short of God's standard.

What I'm trying to find out is calling gays names and threatening them NORMAL behavior for a Christian. I see it often in my life. I just want to know. I don't know why you guys seem to think I'm trying to hide behind other people's sins.

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There is no normal behavior for a Christian. Christians are a diverse group. Calling people names and threatening people is not what Christians are called by Christ to do. Christ 's command for our behavior is to Love, love God and our neighbor and even our enemies. That is a somewhat vague command and open to interpretation, to a degree, as love can take many forms and one person may see a loving action in a different light than another person might see it . I am confident that it is fairly universally understood that threatening people is never loving and calling people names with the intention of hurting them is also not loving. BTW that is in regard to all people not solely to those that are gay. As you pointed out, we also believe everyone sins therefore Christians will sin and some will threaten and some will try to hurt others with their words while others will sin in other ways. I expect that members of any group one might like to name include people that will do those same things, that you find unacceptable when it is done to a gay person, to any number of people for any number of reasons. . Christianity, for the most part ( there are some sects that are outliers and not typical of the rest of Christianity yet still proclaiming their Christianity) does label those things wrong, unlike some other groups which encourage their members to engage in that kind of behavior toward others and at least one that has made it clear they want to target gays in particular.

timothyu said:

True enough but Jesus stepped in and reminded people that we are all sinners and if sin is sin, then we are all equally guilty in the eyes of God, regardless of the punishments man sets out. He let the adulteress go, so it shows that degrees of punishment are not set in stone. So are you perfect enough to condemn another (cast stones) for being in the same corrupted world, acting in our own forms of corruption?

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Yes... but He said to her - go and sin no more...

NomNomPizza said:

Do you forgive him or do you go to police to get him arrested?

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Both

Carl Emerson said:

Yes... but He said to her - go and sin no more...

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And that would apply to all of us.

However, He was addressing continuing in willful sin...

Carl Emerson said:

However, He was addressing continuing in willful sin...

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Yes and that would be putting our self serving animal instincts ahead of our spiritual influence.

timothyu said:

Yes and that would be putting our self serving animal instincts ahead of our spiritual influence.

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Exactly - Satan wants to prove we are nothing more than animals and not made in His image...

Carl Emerson said:

Exactly - Satan wants to prove we are nothing more than animals and not made in His image...

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Well you've got to admit it was an interesting idea for God to channel His influence into one of His mammal creations. It is unfortunate that we decided we could mimic Him, and even make an adversary operating in our own image to take the blame.

timothyu said:

Well you've got to admit it was an interesting idea for God to channel His influence into one of His mammal creations. It is unfortunate that we decided we could mimic Him, and even make an adversary operating in our own image to take the blame.

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Satan is a created angel who fell to pride - not just a construct in the human mind.

Carl Emerson said:

Satan is a created angel who fell to pride - not just a construct in the human mind.

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What photographers would call, a composite. But it mirrors our image.

NomNomPizza said:

If book says gays are evil we call them evil .

Apart from that when Christians put down flesh and live by the spirit we simply get disgusted by sin so gays are disgusting for us, it's like if I put my hand in some sort of slime because I tried to hold onto something in public transport it's like eew I want to get this thing off me , its the same feeling towards gays I'm simply disgusted and don't want to even touch them.

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This point sums up @Jaedan 's OP nicely. This poster is using Christianity as a front to express their personal attitude. I suspect there's a lot of that going on in the Christian attitude to gay people - personal prejudice hiding behind the Bible.

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Occams Barber said:

I suspect there's a lot of that going on in the Christian attitude to gay people - personal prejudice hiding behind the Bible.

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Christians have long used God to justify their ends rather than changing themselves to suit His will.

Freth said:

Calling names and threatening isn't mutually exclusive to any groups, or people in general.

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This is the classic childish argument my sons used when they were little. It's effectively saying that it's OK for Christians to threaten and name call because other people do it.

OB

Occams Barber said:

This is the classic childish argument my sons used when they were little. It's effectively saying that it's OK for Christians to threaten and name call because other people do it.

OB

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Calling an argument childish, thereby calling a poster childish isn't name calling? This would make you guilty of the very thing you're railing against.

Freth said:

Calling an argument childish, thereby calling a poster childish isn't name calling? This would make you guilty of the very thing you're railing against.

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I'm calling the argument childish because that's exactly what it is. I'll give you the same response I gave to my kids,


OB

Occams Barber said:

"Just because someone else misbehaves doesn't justify you misbehaving"

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Doesn't that apply to "abandoning God because others are misbehaving...?"

Sabertooth said:

Doesn't that apply to "abandoning God because others are misbehaving...?"

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The OP's relationship with God is off topic and none of my business.

OB