Why do Some Christians Get a Kick Out of Hating Gays?

Jaedan · Apr 14, 2021

I'm not giving out any names, but many people around me whom I love dearly are often "hostile" towards gays. Their name-calling, threats, and etc, always makes me feel really distressed and uncomfortable (even though I'm not gay). I just don't like it and it is one of the reasons why I stopped believing.

Is this what Christians are supposed to do. Likewise, is it wrong for Christians to hold other Christians accountable for these remarks/threats, etc?

Landon Caeli · Apr 14, 2021

Jaedan said:
I'm not giving out any names, but many people around me whom I love dearly are often "hostile" towards gays. Their name-calling, threats, and etc, always makes me feel really distressed and uncomfortable (even though I'm not gay). I just don't like it and it is one of the reasons why I stopped believing.

Is this what Christians are supposed to do. Likewise, is it wrong for Christians to hold other Christians accountable for these remarks/threats, etc?

This is what very basic, shallow Christians do (threaten, call names)... They're like infants.

...Try mingling with more advanced, spiritually grown-up Christians, instead.

Sabertooth · Apr 14, 2021

Jaedan said:
I just don't like it and it is one of the reasons why I stopped believing.

You won't be able to hide behind other people's sins when you stand before Jesus.

It is like saying,
"These other people better get their act together, or I will refuse to stay Saved...!"
That is a maturity issue on your part.

(It is even more complicated when you realize there are "Tares"* in our midst.)

*Phonies.

Landon Caeli · Apr 14, 2021

@Jaedan, it could be you're more advanced for your age. But you have to understand that everyone's spiritual mileage varies. Even the old can be spiritually young, while others who are young could be spiritually mature.

LaSorcia · Apr 14, 2021

Jaedan said:
Is this what Christians are supposed to do.

During Great Lent in the Orthodox church, we continually pray for God to help us look at our own sins and not the sins of others. So no, Christians are not supposed to act this way.

Jaedan · Apr 14, 2021

Sabertooth said:
You won't be able to hide behind other people's sins when you stand before Jesus.

It is like saying,
"These other people better get their act together, or I will refuse to stay Saved...!"

I applaud you for your audacity to assume that I don't want to be a Christian because I see other Christians "sin."

I asked a question to see if the stated behavior in the OP was normal for Christian to partake in. If the behavior isn't, it is definitely something I do not want to partake in if I hypothetically became a Christian again.

Make yourself useful and answer the question in the original post, please. You can pm me any other off-topic things if you want though.

Sketcher · Apr 14, 2021

Jaedan said:
I'm not giving out any names, but many people around me whom I love dearly are often "hostile" towards gays. Their name-calling, threats, and etc, always makes me feel really distressed and uncomfortable (even though I'm not gay). I just don't like it and it is one of the reasons why I stopped believing.

Is this what Christians are supposed to do. Likewise, is it wrong for Christians to hold other Christians accountable for these remarks/threats, etc?

I'm not one of those people, so I couldn't tell you their exact motivations or psychology. Overweening hostility such as name-calling and threats to a non-hostile person's safety is at best immature, and always inexcusable. What Christians are to do is to love people, even if we disagree with those people, even if those people are engaging in sin. For some, this message needs more hammering home than others.

Also, this is not a good reason to stop believing. Whether or not Christians act badly has no bearing on whether or not God exists, created the world, sent Jesus, or raised him up on the third day.

PloverWing · Apr 14, 2021

Jaedan said:
I'm not giving out any names, but many people around me whom I love dearly are often "hostile" towards gays. Their name-calling, threats, and etc, always makes me feel really distressed and uncomfortable (even though I'm not gay). I just don't like it and it is one of the reasons why I stopped believing.

Is this what Christians are supposed to do. Likewise, is it wrong for Christians to hold other Christians accountable for these remarks/threats, etc?

Name-calling and threats toward gay people are not appropriate actions for Christians to engage in. It's mean, it's cruel, it hurts people, and Christians shouldn't be doing it. Even for Christians who believe that same-sex intimacy is a sin, name-calling and threats are not how we should be treating other beloved children of God.

Jaedan · Apr 14, 2021

Sketcher said:
I'm not one of those people, so I couldn't tell you their exact motivations or psychology. Overweening hostility such as name-calling and threats to a non-hostile person's safety is at best immature, and always inexcusable. What Christians are to do is to love people, even if we disagree with those people, even if those people are engaging in sin. For some, this message needs more hammering home than others.

Also, this is not a good reason to stop believing. Whether or not Christians act badly has no bearing on whether or not God exists, created the world, sent Jesus, or raised him up on the third day.

I definitely don't want to believe if calling gays the f word is normal for a Christian. Read post #6. This is not about not believing because others are sinning.

Ignatius the Kiwi · Apr 14, 2021

When people dislike a certain group for their ideology or practices they will typically make fun of them within the confines of certain social settings. This universal and not limited to Christians. I'm willing to bet Gays make fun and mock Christians within certain social settings as well.

If you're going to condemn Christians especially for this, you need to condemn all humanity for it because everyone is guilty of disparaging people behind their backs. It's the sin of Gossip.

Carl Emerson · Apr 14, 2021

Jaedan said:
I'm not giving out any names, but many people around me whom I love dearly are often "hostile" towards gays. Their name-calling, threats, and etc, always makes me feel really distressed and uncomfortable (even though I'm not gay). I just don't like it and it is one of the reasons why I stopped believing.

Is this what Christians are supposed to do. Likewise, is it wrong for Christians to hold other Christians accountable for these remarks/threats, etc?

I think your own walk with Jesus is your number one responsibility.

As you yield your life to His Love and Wisdom, these matters will sort out.

Don't let anything get in the way of your relationship with Him.

Get into a loving fellowship and grow your faith.

On judgement day we wont be able to say what others did - it will be all about what you did.

Landon Caeli · Apr 14, 2021

Carl Emerson said:
I think your own walk with Jesus is your number one responsibility.

As you yield your life to His Love and Wisdom, these matters will sort out.

Don't let anything get in the way of your relationship with Him.

Get into a loving fellowship and grow your faith.

On judgement day we wont be able to say what others did - it will be all about what we did.

Carl, the OP has asked us not to do that.

Sketcher · Apr 14, 2021

Jaedan said:
I definitely don't want to believe if calling gays the f word is normal for a Christian. Read post #6. This is not about not believing because others are sinning.

1) It's not normal in my church.
2) Given what you said here and in post #6, it sounds like it is. Harassing and threatening people is sinful. Nobody gets a pass for that from God if their target is gay.

Carl Emerson · Apr 14, 2021

Landon Caeli said:
Carl, the OP has asked us not to do that.

What and When?

Jaedan · Apr 14, 2021

Sketcher said:
1) It's not normal in my church.
2) Given what you said here and in post #6, it sounds like it is.

Let me throw on my old Christian shoes real quick.

According to the bible, everyone sins. Non-Christians sin. Christians sin.

there are unbelievers who are racists, liars, etc. Likewise, there are believers who are racists, liars, and etc. Does this mean that unbelievers should not become believers? No, because every man falls short of God's standard.

What I'm trying to find out is calling gays names and threatening them NORMAL behavior for a Christian. I see it often in my life. I just want to know. I don't know why you guys seem to think I'm trying to hide behind other people's sins.

Landon Caeli · Apr 14, 2021

Carl Emerson said:
What and When?

According to post 6, the OP has stated that discussion about his faith is off topic, and has asked that it not be discussed here in this thread.

Sketcher · Apr 14, 2021

Jaedan said:
Let me throw on my old Christian shoes real quick.

According to the bible, everyone sins. Non-Christians sin. Christians sin.

there are unbelievers who are racists, liars, etc. Likewise, there are believers who are racists, liars, and etc. Does this mean that unbelievers should not become believers? No, because every man falls short of God's standard.

What I'm trying to find out is calling gays names and threatening them NORMAL behavior for a Christian. I see it often in my life. I just want to know.

It's not normal in my church.

Jaedan said:
I don't know why you guys seem to think I'm trying to hide behind other people's sins.

Well, you said it's part of why you're not believing anymore. That's why I called that out. Sorry if it hurt your feelings. I wasn't aiming to hurt feelings.

timothyu · Apr 14, 2021

Because they are not into art or fashion?

St_Worm2 · Apr 14, 2021

Jaedan said:
I definitely don't want to believe if calling gays the f word is normal for a Christian. Read post #6.

Hello Jaedan, the Bible is pretty specific about the fact that the use of course language (in almost all situations) is sinful .. e.g. Ephesians 4:29, 5:4; Colossians 3:8 cf Matthew 12:34-37. It also speaks of our great need to love our neighbor (Christian and non-Christian alike), and to always treat others in the same manner that would want/hope to be treated by them (even if we have been treated badly by them in the past and/or are being treated badly by them in the moment :preach:

).

Matthew 7
12 However you want people to treat you, so treat them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Matthew 19
19b You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

--David
p.s. - I think missionary Amy Carmichael puts it nicely.

Carmichael, Amy - Let nothing be said....jpg

Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word
as is good for edification, according to the need of the moment,
so that it will give grace to those who hear.
Ephesians 4:29
.

Leet · Apr 14, 2021

Of course it isn't normal. What would give you the impression of it being normal? A few ole bigots you may have encountered? There are simply people like that who exist regardless of faith or no faith.

Why do Some Christians Get a Kick Out of Hating Gays?

Take this brother may it serve you well

God is perfect - Nothing is an accident

Repartee Animal: Quipping the Saints!

God is perfect - Nothing is an accident

Well-Known Member

Take this brother may it serve you well

Born Imperishable

Episcopalian

Take this brother may it serve you well

Dissident

Well-Known Member

God is perfect - Nothing is an accident

Born Imperishable

Well-Known Member

Take this brother may it serve you well

God is perfect - Nothing is an accident

Born Imperishable

Well-Known Member

Simul Justus et Peccator

Active Member

Similar threads