Poll: Would you support the US being represented by only one party?

Pavel Mosko said:

We seem to be headed for that now with the Democrats able to rewrite the election rules, the general media carrying their water, Gerrymandering, pandering to illegals to get their vote when they become citizens etc.

But no, countries that have one party systems tend to be Dystopian totalitarian nightmares or 3rd World Banana Republics.

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Pavel Mosko said:

I'm I'm wrong then please name some counter examples, but ad hominens are not going to persuade me, they actually indicate to me that you bring little to the conversation, since cheap shots are cheap, and don't require any work or thought.

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It is wrong because it is Republicans, largely at the state leve, that are rewriting voter rules -- typically making it more difficult to people to vote. Most of these have little to do with requiring voter ID, as those are typically already the law in those states. Republicans have proposed voter laws in 47 states "to curb the vote", per the non-partisan Brennan Center for Justice.

If you are referring to HR1, there is nothing there that would keep Republicans from being able to vote, or that would cause people to vote for Democrats; and that is only important if you ignore that HR1 will never pass the Senate, as Republicans will filibuster to keep it from coming to a vote.

It is the Republicans that are working, and actually passing laws, to change election rules to benefit Republicans, despite the will of the voters (particularly the bills that have been proposed that would allow the legislature to change the results if the voters don't vote the way the legislature wanted.

Kenny'sID said:

All depends on the party.

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I don't think it does...

I'm not aware of any historical one-party state that has ended with a positive outcome.

Here's a list of the ones that still exist


Not exactly eager to live in any of those places.

There are some nations that fall under the category of "dominant party systems" (like Venezuela Bolivia and Uganda), in which a few "token" opposition parties are allowed to exist for the purposes of claiming "we have free elections", but a single party still runs the show and controls election outcomes.

With how that pertains to our own country, I wouldn't want to live in an environment where Jim Jordan or AOC were able to do everything they wanted without any opposition.

Perhaps it should go back to land owners only who get t vote and make policy, like in the beginning in the US. That would decrease the division out there if the majority had no rights. The problem today is the majority has rights but are told how to use them. They don't make choices, they are given them. So nothing really changes regardless of the system. The elite still run the show while the rest live lives of illusions and fantasies.

timothyu said:

Perhaps it should go back to land owners only who get t vote and make policy, like in the beginning. That would decrease the division out there if the majority had no rights. The problem today is the majority has rights but are told how to use them. They don't make choices, they are given them. So nothing really changes regardless of the system. The elite still run the show while the rest live lives of illusions and fantasies.

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Does that mean that those of us who aren't landowners get to stop paying taxes?

I make a decent chunk of change, but opt to rent a condo as opposed to buying land because I don't want to be tied down to one place. If I don't get a voice in government, then I shouldn't have to pay.

Or, maybe I'll start a scheme where I buy a 1-acre plot, and give away each of the 43560 sq ft (in 1 sq ft divisions) to 43560 different non-landowners who I know agree with me politically so they gain the right the vote since they'll technically "own land" at that point.


All joking aside...no matter the safeguards that are attempted, people with a lot of money will always have more influence (politically) than people who don't, and that exists in all systems.

ThatRobGuy said:

Does that mean that those of us who aren't landowners get to stop paying taxes?

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Land tax.
But regardless, that is how the US was run at the time of the Constitution.
And as far as taxes go, did some dictator come along and impose taxes? Or did the people let them get away with it? Always blaming government for what you let them do.

hislegacy said:

Are you comfortable with a single party system?

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I think there should be no parties. People tend to vote on a candidate solely by the letter in front of their name regardless of the politics.

Oompa Loompa said:

People tend to vote on a candidate solely by the letter in front of their name regardless of the politics.

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People vote but regardless of who gets in, they work for the power structure, not the people. Voting is just to give the people the impression they have a say. Delusion is a powerful aphrodisiac.

ThatRobGuy said:

I wouldn't want to live in an environment where Jim Jordan or AOC were able to do everything they wanted without any opposition.

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Presently the democratic party does what they like without opposition in many cases. I'd like to see something changed so neither side is sometimes helpless like that.

Kenny'sID said:

I'd like to see something changed so neither side is sometimes helpless like that.

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Could be difficult now that fences and military surround the powerbrokers.

Pavel Mosko said:

I'm I'm wrong then please name some counter examples, but ad hominens are not going to persuade me, they actually indicate to me that you bring little to the conversation, since cheap shots are cheap, and don't require any work or thought.

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you spent years on here blindly cheering on everything the gop was doing when it controlled both houses, and the presidency and filled up the supreme court but now that they no longer do your suddenly tooting about government overreach. yeah i don't think anyone here is going to pity you or join your lament.
hopefully the gop will continue destroying itself and take it's supporters into the grave with it and then perhaps we can have an actual conservative party again like we had before the 1980s.

TLK Valentine said:

I'd prefer a no party system. What purpose do they serve, anyway?

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Like-minded politicians are going to form factions. Political parties are really just the formalization of that. Even "nonpartisan" elections usually end up being totally partisan, it's just that people don't get the party name officially listed on the ballot.

JSRG said:

it's just that people don't get the party name officially listed on the ballot.

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They usually don't get anything other than a chance to say they voted. How blessed.

JSRG said:

Like-minded politicians are going to form factions. Political parties are really just the formalization of that. Even "nonpartisan" elections usually end up being totally partisan, it's just that people don't get the party name officially listed on the ballot.

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Factions are going to form, but the formalization is the exact problem, especially when the ideological capabilities that would help form factions are replaced by a blind loyalty to party.

Arcangl86 said:

especially when the ideological capabilities that would help form factions are replaced by a blind loyalty to party.

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Like religion

The IbanezerScrooge said:

I cannot answer the poll or comment on the OP unless OP defines what he means exactly by "the US being represented by only one party". If he means one party in control of all branches and major governmental institutions, then sure. We've had that happen several times throughout our history. If he means that a party wins an election and then all members of any other parties are summarily executed then obviously no.

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Indeed -- and ideologically speaking, plenty of people believe we're in a one-party system already, with the hated Other being less an"opposition party" and more "traitors."

GreatLakes4Ever said:

Fortunately, the chances of that happening in the United States are almost zero. If the Republicans take over there would be immediate fighting between the Romney/Cheney wing and the Trump/Greene wing. Likewise if the Democrats took over, there would be immediate fighting between the Sanders wing and the Manchin government wing. I’ll grant you that Romney/Cheney is too right for my liking as I’m sure Manchin is too left for your liking but there won’t be just one party. The one would quickly split into sparring factions.

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I wish I could be as optimistic as you, but in Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Texas, and other states there has been a concerted effort to insure that most voters who have certain characteristics more associated with progressivism will see their votes suppressed through restricting polling places, voting times, absentee or mail-in ballots, or surgically designing districts to minimize their impact. If that isn't trying to institute one party rule I don't know what is.

Obviously! So long as it's the Official Monster Raving Loony Party! Accept no substitutes!

mala said:

you spent years on here blindly cheering on everything the gop was doing when it controlled both houses, and the presidency and filled up the supreme court but now that they no longer do your suddenly tooting about government overreach. yeah i don't think anyone here is going to pity you or join your lament.
hopefully the gop will continue destroying itself and take it's supporters into the grave with it and then perhaps we can have an actual conservative party again like we had before the 1980s.

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Blatantly Not true!

I've only been really active here 3 years at best (I think it was Fall of 2018 when I began posting here other than maybe posting a "Hello" thread in 2015) , even though I am an active poster and it probably feels like I've been here much longer if you disagree and dislike my opinions.

I registered here in 2015 but didn't post here because I initially didn't like how tightly things were regulated here compared to previous boards I've been on, so I spent my time on Facebook etc..


By the way, what I asked is actually in the terms of service which you also are violating and doing so much more blatantly than the previous poster!


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hislegacy said:

Are you comfortable with a single party system?

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We don’t have single party. I didn’t hear any conservative complain in 2017 when WH, Senate and House was under GOP control. Now that WH, Senate and House is under Democrat control, sky is falling, sky is falling!

Having said that, I would like to see another party as strong as democrat and pull democrat to the center. But that is not going to happen any time soon. Unless people like Kohn Kasich nominated in 2024 (zero chance that will happen), many like me will not vote for GOP.

I don’t like the world view of AOC & CO, but they are not the strong hold of democratic party. Despite some influence by the left, democratic party is still a centrist party. Despite some of the noise in democrat camp like “universal healthcare” or “universal education” , in most case Biden administration is much centrist then people would like to admit.

The reason conservative’s media and conservatives think democrat became “left loony” is because today Republican platform moved too far to the right. Even John Banner or Paul Ryan doesn’t support today’s republican ideology.

I would like to vote another party but not current GOP. As far as I am concern GOP needs to be dissolved. The current GOP has no room in 21st century.