WWJD Did Jesus Pray to Mary?

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Genesis 3:15 which is the protoevangelium says no such thing as anyone who has any understanding of theology clearly knows. God is speaking to satan and telling him that Jesus is going to crush his head. No need to accept my word for it, read it for yourself. The Proto-Evangelium
And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
He shall bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel.”
— Genesis 3:15

Who’s seed?
 
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So you believe cannibalism is the way to christ?
Eating His flesh and drinking His blood is the plain reading of the text, but that does not describe cannibalism. Cannibalism necessarily requires the destruction of the one whose flesh is eaten and indeed that is the figurative meaning of the expression in Hebrew culture. To eat someone's flesh means to destroy them, so if you don't want to accept the literal understanding of Christ's words then you have Christ telling us that we must destroy Him.
However, Christ is not giving us dead flesh to eat but rather His living flesh, and He gives us His blood to drink BECAUSE His life is in the blood. The very reason the Jews were prohibited from eating meat with blood is why He give us His blood. And just like the feeding of the 5000, where a few loaves and some fish satisfied them all and still filled many baskets in excess, Christ's body and blood feeds millions and yet there is always more. Christ never suffers loss through giving us His flesh to eat.
And because it would be abhorrent for us to eat human flesh and drink human blood, He gives His flesh and blood to us in a manner that causes no offence, in the form of bread and wine. This is the plain understanding of the Scriptures and the belief of every Church that traces back to the Apostles.
 
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At this point I'm going to refer you to my previous posts, since I already addressed this, and I never said to individually interpret scripture the way you want. I said to individually seek the truthful objective interpretation. You never addressed how you are able to figure out that interpretation yourself, considering all the different preachers and denominations that exist that say different things and all claim to be true. Did you just cast your lot with the preacher you decided to believe? You must have.
No I spent the time and effort required to get an education in theology so I could help others know God and so I would know where to find the answers for any question I have and also be able to discern the influence of the different denominational views. I do not abuse the Holy Spirit by expecting him to interpret all scripture for me.
 
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And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
He shall bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel.”
— Genesis 3:15

Who’s seed?
Go read the link I provided you, the answer to your question is clear.
 
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Go read the link I provided you, the answer to your question is clear.
I don’t need to read the link. Christ is predicted to be the seed of Eve. Eve was a sinner.
 
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If we are to model ourselves after Jesus Christ and imitate His life by doing what He did while He was alive, would praying to Mary be something we would do?
No, that is not the Mary of The Bible.
observe the twelve constellations that form the pentacle around what is meant to represent lilith and the zodiac of satan. the image of baphomet is generally obscured as a heart still symbolizing baphomets forge within the depiction of lilith. That is a demon associated with satanism and occultism.
 
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It would be more appropriate if the Catholic Church made the depiction more obvious such as in this instance:

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this idol is not The Bibles Mary it is meant to be a depiction of lilith. It's consistent with satanic imagery and depiction's of lilith:

1. 6 roses associated with six moon phases
2. 12 constellations associated with 12 horoscope's that form a pentacle associated with the pentagram
3. A depiction of baphomets forge associated with the number 666

Last time I Checked, Jesus who is God Stated in the testament no graven images of any likeness of anything on the earth, in heaven, and definitely no adoration which constitutes idolotry comparing anything to Him on the earth, in Heaven above or in hell.

That's Blasphemy, so Jesus would send you to hell if you didn't repent of your idolotry, that's what Jesus Would Do.last time I checked creation is what God was saving from sin.but it does say in The Bible man created idols in the image of man who certain men did go on to worship which if I remember correctly receive Swift Judgement.maybe even a little ash on the forehead would make it more obvious. mark of the beast style and all, I mean they have the pentagram and everything else obscurely represented along with a depiction of satan as a heart.
 

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The church is made up of individual Christians. So you didn't really make any point that I see, there. The RCC is not the "church" spoken about in scripture. Ekklesia is, it is the body of all believers. Which literally means that individuals reading the Bible [the church] have that authority. Who doesn't have that authority are nonbelievers.

So you believe cannibalism is the way to christ? I've met hyper catholics that have told me that. The Bible also mentions other aspects of salvation, proper understanding in context is necessary.


Sounds as though you and an adherent of the belief of 'sola scriptura', also known as the belief of the bible alone. That being, if it's not in the bible, it is not to believed. (unbiblical belief I might add) So....if I am correct, you should have no problem posting Scripture passages, (chapter/verses) to your statements below.

The church is made up of individual Christians.

Which literally means that individuals reading the Bible [the church] have that authority.

Who doesn't have that authority are nonbelievers.

Please show from the catechism of the Catholic Church where you stated the following.

So you believe cannibalism is the way to christ?

I've met hyper catholics that have told me that.

Which I highly doubt. If so, they were poorly catechized Catholics.

The Bible also mentions other aspects of salvation, proper understanding in context is necessary.

Who's understanding, and who gave them this authority?

The RCC is not the "church" spoken about in scripture.

Say's who? And who gave them the authority to say so?

Also, you do realize that the 'Roman Catholic Church' is only one of many Rites (Latin Rite) within the Catholic Church....... Right?

Have a Blessed day!
 
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That's not what I asked. I asked you if she was "always" a sinner?
What’s relevant to my point that you quoted is that she was at the time of Gen 3:15.
 
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Okay, but my simple question is, was there ever a time before Gen. 3:15 that Eve and Adam were sinless?
It’s not relevant to my post.
 
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Ha-ha....I think we both know why your hesitation to answer. ;) Maybe I explain why in a later post for those that may not know why.
I’m not hesitant. It’s just not relevant to my point. If you have something to say, then just say it.
 
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