Now non-white people can be white

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Private funding, but still distributed to the public through Government -- in violation of CA Constitution

Ok...thank you for clearing that up.

If a private entity wants to create a charity for a group they can by all means do so.

I don't think the government should enact racial discrimination on behalf of private sector entities.

If that is allowed....it's pretty hard to argue against anyone doing it.

Clearly California sought to remove their civil rights act to do this racist garbage. There's a process for this....they can stand up in debate and explain whose children they want to oppress and why.

Then the federal government should step in and explain why they aren't allowed.
 
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Ok...thank you for clearing that up.

If a private entity wants to create a charity for a group they can by all means do so.

I don't think the government should enact racial discrimination on behalf of private sector entities.

If that is allowed....it's pretty hard to argue against anyone doing it.

Clearly California sought to remove their civil rights act to do this racist garbage. There's a process for this....they can stand up in debate and explain whose children they want to oppress and why.

Then the federal government should step in and explain why they aren't allowed.
Spending $200K/yr / migrant child, including in-person education

Seems greater than the level of spending for any other disadvantaged group
 
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Just when we thought it couldn't get any more weird....

If you think you're safe from being called a racist or even "white privileged" just because you're not white, think again. They now have a new label---Multicultural Whiteness. Enjoy!

Understanding Multiracial Whiteness And Trump Supporters

The lady in the article sounds like she's suffering from projection and or wants to control how people of color think.
 
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"R.u.m.b.l.e." is not a "get out of debate with the win for free" card, that's essentially ad hominem

Name the claimed facts you dispute

Fair is fair, if you can denigrate my sources, then I can denigrate your sources

I cite a Rumble source, you veto
You cite a MSM source, I veto
Now where are we?

You never learned the importance of "critical thinking" in High School Wellness class? Sifting through statements to find the truth, even amidst spin?

Nobody not part of your choir will ever think you are somehow "less biased" than me :)
I don't even get it. What's wrong with Rumble? It's awesome to see a site becoming a viable competitor to YT
 
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It said the city of Oakland....so I assumed the program came from them as a matter of policy or law.

If it's private charity...feel free to explain.
So you don't know what you're talking about or whom you're talking about...just making assumptions. And no non-rumble link to explain what it's about.

They would be any lawmakers who seek to discriminate by race. They appear to be on the left these days.
Appears, to you. Well, that settles it.
 
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When I see a non-historian like Beltran claiming that the US has a white supremacist history.....what is she saying? That white supremacist ideology is the best explanation of motive for most of the nation's history?

It looks like that's what she's saying.

Of course she isn’t. What gives you the idea she is trying to explain history? The context is US history, what is in the articles at least is about the behaviour of a few people within that history. Where does anything indicate she is trying to ‘explain history’?
 
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If context is enough....

Then I can only conclude that she is a racist willing to make negative racist generalizations about the millions of latinos voting for Trump.

What negative racist generalisations does she make that you base that conclusion on?
 
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"R.u.m.b.l.e." is not a "get out of debate with the win for free" card, that's essentially ad hominem

Name the claimed facts you dispute
No facts were given, not even a short synopsis. Something about Oakland and discrimination, but what exactly?

Fair is fair, if you can denigrate my sources, then I can denigrate your sources
Sure, because all sources are equal and equally valid.

I cite a Rumble source, you veto
You cite a MSM source, I veto
Now where are we?
Did you know that there are non-rumble sites that are also informative with a right-wing perspective? It's true!

Rumble is one site, that has videos. Posting a link to a video is not much different than embedding one except rules here are that the embedded ones must be accompanied by a synopsis.

Also, rumble is only one, single site while "MSM" are a multiple of diverse sites with varying degrees of accuracy. That you blanket veto "all of them" says more about you than about anything else. You're not about sharing information, you're about shilling this particular site.

You never learned the importance of "critical thinking" in High School Wellness class?[/quote]Oh, goody, personal insults is it? Great!

Sifting through statements to find the truth, even amidst spin?

Nobody not part of your choir will ever think you are somehow "less biased" than me
Straw man. I have not claimed to be unbiased or even less biased than you. :) I haven't got a choir; I'm not preaching.
 
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What negative racist generalisations does she make that you base that conclusion on?

She says something about these millions of latino voters wanting to hate people....

Do you really want me to quote her?
 
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Of course she isn’t. What gives you the idea she is trying to explain history? The context is US history

Which she characterized as white supremacist....

You can ask me to interpret her vague nonsense...or you can agree it's too vague.

Which do you want?
 
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Which she characterized as white supremacist....

You can ask me to interpret her vague nonsense...or you can agree it's too vague.

Which do you want?

Sure go ahead, quote her characterisation of US history as ‘white supremacist’.
 
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So you don't know what you're talking about or whom you're talking about...just making assumptions. And no non-rumble link to explain what it's about.

Why do I care where the link is from?

Sources don't affect truth.



Appears, to you. Well, that settles it.

Golly gosh....would you like a pile of evidence?

Wanna see Democrats supporting racial quotas?

How about Democrats in favor of racist indoctrination?

Different medical treatment based on race?

It's an almost endless list of racist policies. Where do you want to start?
 
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Sure go ahead, quote her characterisation of US history as ‘white supremacist’.

"And so whiteness as an ideology is rooted in America's history of white supremacy - right?"
 
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"And so whiteness as an ideology is rooted in America's history of white supremacy - right?"

‘America’s history of white supremacy’ - do you take that to mean American history is white supremacy?
 
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‘America’s history of white supremacy’ - do you take that to mean American history is white supremacy?

How else am I to take it? She doesn't explain it at all.

Do you think she's talking about white supremacist groups (people who actually have a white supremacist ideology)?
 
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Explain what she means....

If it is said someone or something has a history of, whatever, then that is something that person or thing has done or demonstrated or whatever in the past - a history of. It is not an all encompassing statement. I am assuming you know that.

The US does have a history of white supremacism, this is undeniable. For most of US history non-whites have been treated differently, whether classified as sub human or denied many of the basic rights white citizens had. More specifically, membership of actual white supremacist groups and the influence of these groups in some historical events is also a feature of US history.

Is this all of US history? Of course it isn’t. Where does anyone claim anything like that? I have an otherwise good sheepdog who has a history of too enthusiastically chasing stragglers. When I say this dog ‘has a history of’ this is a particular way of phrasing something. If I said ‘all he ever does is...’ then that would have a different meaning. But of course you know this.
 
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