Arkansas House Votes to Allow Teaching of Creationism in Science Classes

Status
Not open for further replies.

renniks

Well-Known Member
Jun 2, 2008
10,682
3,445
✟149,430.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Another example of a lack of critical thinking.
The issue isn't about how popular a theory is but whether creationism stands on its own two feet as a mainstream scientific theory.
To do so it must be supported by evidence; faith is not evidence unless you can demonstrate otherwise.
There's plenty of evidence. You just choose not to see it.
 
Upvote 0

Speedwell

Well-Known Member
May 11, 2016
23,928
17,625
81
St Charles, IL
✟347,270.00
Country
United States
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Married
My eyes which see the evidence every day also are the evidence.
So explain to us how your eyes are evidence that the Earth is 6000 years old. Explain to us how your eyes are evidence that the Earth was entirely covered with water ca. 2600 BC. Explain to us how your eyes are evidence of Special Creation.

Perhaps you think that your eyes are evidence that the theory of evolution is false. Even if you were right, that would not in itself be evidence of creationism.
 
Upvote 0

Subduction Zone

Regular Member
Dec 17, 2012
32,628
12,068
✟230,461.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
My eyes which see the evidence every day also are the evidence.
I think that you are conflating confirmation bias with evidence.

Scientific evidence is very well defined. Do you have any scientific evidence for your beliefs?
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Hans Blaster
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

dlamberth

Senior Contributor
Supporter
Oct 12, 2003
19,212
2,813
Oregon
✟723,684.00
Faith
Other Religion
Politics
US-Others
My eyes which see the evidence every day also are the evidence.
In reading your reply I'm wondering if you might be seeing the Glory of God in Nature and than translating the wonders of that vision as a 6 day creation. I fully get the seeing the Glory of God in Nature aspect but where I differ is that I see it as part of the evolutionary aspect of the Creating process. That's mainly because the Earth itSelf has shown us that it is through evolution that God Creates.
 
Upvote 0

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,850,672
51,419
Guam
✟4,896,791.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
In reading your reply I'm wondering if you might be seeing the Glory of God in Nature and than translating the wonders of that vision as a 6 day creation. I fully get the seeing the Glory of God in Nature aspect but where I differ is that I see it as part of the evolutionary aspect of the Creating process. That's mainly because the Earth itSelf has shown us that it is through evolution that God Creates.
Do you see atheists as blind?
 
Upvote 0

Akita Suggagaki

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2018
6,732
4,895
69
Midwest
✟279,058.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
They would have to teach all of them.
The Hindu, Norse, Kemetic, Babylonian/Akkadan, Aztec, Inca, Mayan, East Celtic, Swahili, Kymer, Greek, Proto-Indo-European, etc etc etc...
I am conservative. Let them stick with Greco-Roman.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

renniks

Well-Known Member
Jun 2, 2008
10,682
3,445
✟149,430.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
So explain to us how your eyes are evidence that the Earth is 6000 years old. Explain to us how your eyes are evidence that the Earth was entirely covered with water ca. 2600 BC. Explain to us how your eyes are evidence of Special Creation.
Never made any such claims. You're just making stuff up.
 
Upvote 0

renniks

Well-Known Member
Jun 2, 2008
10,682
3,445
✟149,430.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I think that you are conflating confirmation bias with evidence.

Scientific evidence is very well defined. Do you have any scientific evidence for your beliefs?
Tons. But nothing you would accept.
"Where there’s a genuine controversy, as there is about Darwinian theory, anyone in search of truth has no choice but to weigh the evidence for himself. The observation that, beyond doubt, thousands of scientists are skeptical and encourage further “careful examination” of the question, is one reason every thoughtful adult owes it to herself to consider the evidence without just passively swallowing the majority view."
Oh, but that's a quote from someone who accepts ID, so you wouldn't even consider it. Kind of like one political party will never accept anything from the other side.
 
Upvote 0

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,850,672
51,419
Guam
✟4,896,791.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
It's the supposed believers in God whom I often see as blind.
They aren't the focus of my question though.
dlamberth said:
I don't concern myself with atheist much ...
But Mother Earth does ... right?

Didn't you say ...
dlamberth said:
That's mainly because the Earth itSelf has shown us that it is through evolution that God Creates.
Who's "us" in your remark?
dlamberth said:
... as I've myself have gone through that process.
And you were apparently deaf and blind at the time, right?

After all, if Mother Earth is so vociferous, why do atheists exist?
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
Status
Not open for further replies.