Was this a sarcastic remark?Go ahead and ignore the verses I shared.... and post #4
Was this a sarcastic remark?
If so, "under the earth" in the Old Testament times were two places: Hell proper ... and Paradise; known collectively as "Hell."
Abraham died and went to Hell, but he went to the "good side" of Hell.
The passage you quoted ...
Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
... simply reinforces the fact that every knee is going to bow, and every tongue is going to confess Jesus Christ.
Saved and unsaved alike.
Paul, no offense, you keep giving me these Hebrew words, and they mean absolutely nothing to me.2 the vault of heaven, or 'firmament,' regarded by Hebrews as solid, and supporting 'waters' above it, Genesis 1:6,7 (3 t. in verse); Genesis 1:8 (called שָׁמַיַם; all P), Psalm 19:2 ("" הַשָּׁמַיַם), ׳זֹהַר הָר Daniel 12:3; also ׳ר הַשָּׁמִיִם Genesis 1:14,15,17, ׳הַשּׁ ׳עַלמְּֿנֵי ר Genesis 1:20 (all P). **רְקִיעַ עֻזּוֺ Psalm 150:1 (suffix reference to ׳י).
BDB Hebrew: 7549. רָקִ֫יעַ (raqia) -- an extended surface, expanse
What verse are you getting "planets" from?
It's called "Hell."So where is "under the earth"?
Paul, no offense, you keep giving me these Hebrew words, and they mean absolutely nothing to me.
1 Corinthians 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
I don't even believe the entire book of Genesis was written in Hebrew, until Moses copied it into his language.
Okay, so some Hebrews regarded the firmament as solid.
I feel sorry for their lack of understanding of outer space, but God took care of that when the time came.
As I'm fond of saying, where the King James differs with the original Hebrew, the original Hebrew is wrong.
Well, I'll admit I didn't watch your video, but I'll do so now, then comment on it.Hey I won't sabotage your thread like people do. Just wanted to throw a few thoughts. For fifty plus years I believed what you do. Last few years I decided to re examine scripture in a un biased way, and my view has changed. Dr. Heiser with Ph.D. in Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages is a well known scholar with many peer reviewed papers and he agrees with your view, though he teaches the Bible shows the properly defined 3-tier Cosmology, which you want to re-define. Have fun.
Thank you ... you too!God bless, bro.
Chicken or the egg?It's all the same....yet it's not.
The ISS orbit visualized on the flat earth map (Azimuthal equidistant projection)
By the way. "under the earth" is not hell; Hell/Hades is located "under the earth." So is Sheol/the grave [Ps 141:7]; the bottomless pit [Rev 20:3]; Gehenna [Matt 5:29]; and Tartarus [2Pe 2:4]. Compartments on levels, (like 3rd heaven) of the "realm of the dead." [Acts 2:31], which is "beneath the waters" [Job 26:5-6]. The "lower earthly regions" where the Lord Jesus Christ descended [Eph 4:8-9].If so, "under the earth" in the Old Testament times were two places: Hell proper ... and Paradise; known collectively as "Hell."
Abraham died and went to Hell, but he went to the "good side" of Hell.
Okay.By the way. "under the earth" is not hell; Hell/Hades is located "under the earth." So is Sheol/the grave [Ps 141:7]; the bottomless pit [Rev 20:3]; Gehenna [Matt 5:29]; and Tartarus [2Pe 2:4]. Compartments on levels, (like 3rd heaven) of the "realm of the dead." [Acts 2:31], which is "beneath the waters" [Job 26:5-6]. The "lower earthly regions" where the Lord Jesus Christ descended [Eph 4:8-9].
1 Corinthians 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
Is Paul telling us not to move? or is he telling us to abound?
Which do you think?
Okay, so some Hebrews regarded the firmament as solid.
That's because the earth wasn't.Paul is talking about people, metaphorically, being steadfast and unshakeable in their faith.
I don't think this can be what the OT means about the earth being set immovably on pillars or foundations.
In a vision?How else can you put a sapphire throne on it?