"Dear God, help me hate white people" - Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes, Seminary Professor at Mercer Unv

iluvatar5150 · Apr 9, 2021

BobRyan said:
you just showed her ending with "

you just showed that she concludes with ""free me from this burden of calling them to confession and repentance. Grant me a Get Out of Judgment Free card if I make White people the exception to your commandment to Love our neighbors as we love ourselves" in the last few paragraphs of her prayer.

No, I didn't show her ending with that. That's sort of the start of the end. There's almost another full page worth of material after that, which is pretty substantial in a piece that's only about three full pages in length (spread over four pages) to begin with.

I assume you take that as a "good thing".

I don't take any of this as a good thing. I don't think it's a very good piece.

It boggles my mind, though, as to how many people fail at basic reading comprehension.

BobRyan · Apr 9, 2021

Dave L said:
Only a racist would single out white people. Are you one?

I didn't write that prayer

Dave L · Apr 9, 2021

BobRyan said:
I didn't write that prayer

Why do you think it is racist?

BobRyan · Apr 9, 2021

iluvatar5150 said:
No, I didn't show her ending with that. That's sort of the start of the end. There's almost another full page worth of material after that, which is pretty substantial in a piece that's only about three full pages in length (spread over four pages) to begin with.

I don't take any of this as a good thing. I don't think it's a very good piece.

It boggles my mind, though, as to how many people fail at basic reading comprehension.

Thanks for the clarification I have updated my post

BobRyan · Apr 9, 2021

BobRyan said: ↑
I didn't write that prayer

Dave L said:
Why do you think it is racist?

I have provided several direct quotes to make the point.

Dave L · Apr 9, 2021

BobRyan said:
I have provided several direct quotes to make the point.

So? are you a racist?

Guinan · Apr 9, 2021

iluvatar5150 said:
No, I didn't show her ending with that. That's sort of the start of the end. There's almost another full page worth of material after that, which is pretty substantial in a piece that's only about three full pages in length (spread over four pages) to begin with.

I don't take any of this as a good thing. I don't think it's a very good piece.

It boggles my mind, though, as to how many people fail at basic reading comprehension.

I don't think it's a failure at basic reading comprehension. I think it's more likely the prayer is being used as a reason to be outraged. I say that because the narrative was still being dragged out even after you and Eftsoon clearly debunked it. It doesn't seem like the facts you pointed out matter.

seaofsand · Apr 9, 2021

I read it all. The entire piece is a hateful diatribe against white people, all white people, disguised as a prayer. "You have rescued me from the monster of racism when it sought to devour me." Oh, really? It seems to me that she is pathologically obsessed with race, as are most of the "woke," and critical race theory is her god. And she's happy to continue preaching this way of dealing with an entire race of people, no matter who they are individually. Doesn't sound very Christlike to me.

iluvatar5150 said:
It's only difficult if your brain can't comprehend a narrative arc in which a character exhibits a behavior and then expresses regret for it.

In the OP article, there are photos of the whole thing. Her admission that her attitude isn't right starts near the top of the third page when she asks to let her heart be hardened - anybody even remotely familiar with the Bible knows that a "hardened heart" is not a good thing. Then she asks to be like pre-whale Jonah, whose heavy-handed attitude correction was the basis for his entire story.

Then she really turns the corner at "But I will trust in you, my Lord." From there until the end, she describes how God has called her to something better than what she's prayed for.

BobRyan · Apr 9, 2021

BobRyan said: ↑
I have provided several direct quotes to make the point.

Dave L said:
So? are you a racist?

Is it your claim that if I quote the author - I must be a racist??

98cwitr · Apr 9, 2021

Dave L said:
Motive?

“Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? And am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.” Psalm 139:21–22 (KJV 1900)

Guinan said:
The narrative in your OP has been debunked by @iluvatar5150 and Eftsoon.

A person's opinionated rebuttal isn't what I would label as "debunking." The language of the prayer is in direct contradiction to the teachings of Christ; and yes, I read the whole thing.

BobRyan · Apr 9, 2021

Guinan said:
I don't think it's a failure at basic reading comprehension. I think it's more likely the prayer is being used as a reason to be outraged. I say that because the narrative was still being dragged out even after you and Eftsoon clearly debunked it. It doesn't seem like the facts you pointed out matter.

The direct quotes provided from the prayer itself ... matter.

Dave L · Apr 9, 2021

98cwitr said:
A person's opinionated rebuttal isn't what I would label as "debunking." The language of the prayer is in direct contradiction to the teachings of Christ; and yes, I read the whole thing.

What do you think of the Psalm?

Dave L · Apr 9, 2021

BobRyan said:
Is it your claim that if I quote the author - I must be a racist??

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. That's why I ask.

iluvatar5150 · Apr 9, 2021

seaofsand said:
It seems to me that she is pathologically obsessed with race

You gathered that after reading a single 4-page piece from a woman I'm assuming you'd never heard of before?

seaofsand · Apr 9, 2021

Yes, I did.

iluvatar5150 said:
You gathered that after reading a single 4-page piece from a woman I'm assuming you'd never heard of before?

BobRyan · Apr 9, 2021

Dave L said:
Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. That's why I ask.

It is why I provided direct quotes...

grasping the after wind · Apr 9, 2021

Guinan said:
The narrative in your OP has been debunked by @iluvatar5150 and Eftsoon.

We have very different definitions of debunking. The author never once displays any regret for the the way she stereotypes white people as inferior morally and ethically to other races. She only express a modicum of regret for asking God to make her hate them for their innate evilness.
A so called rebuttal that references "whiteness" as something to be eliminated is anything but a debunking.

BobRyan · Apr 9, 2021

Dave L said:
What do you think of the Psalm?

1. It had nothing to do with race.
2. You claimed that psalms is directed against all mankind since all have a sinful nature.
3. The prayer that is the subject of this thread does not point to "all mankind is flawed having a sinful nature, help me to want to hate all mankind"

BobRyan · Apr 9, 2021

In the prayer she talks about white people and divides them into two groups in her prayer.
1. White people that are in hell - and the comment that there is no need for God to help her hate them since there is no point to it.
2. White people that appear nice and do things like invite her to dinner (in her words). She calls them "The other white people" the ones not in hell. She specifically singles that group of "white people" out for needing God to help her to want to hate.

iluvatar5150 · Apr 9, 2021

grasping the after wind said:
We have very different definitions of debunking. The author never once displays any regret for the the way she stereotypes white people as inferior morally and ethically to other races. She only express a modicum of regret for asking God to make her hate them for their innate evilness.
A so called rebuttal that references "whiteness" as something to be eliminated is anything but a debunking.

"Grant me a Get Out of Judgment Free card if I make White people the exception to your commandment to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. But I will trust in you, my Lord." "...you have called me to be an agent in your ministry of justice and reconciliation."

That passage casts everything preceding it as a failure to love her neighbors as she loves herself and counter to her calling to being an agent of justice and reconciliation.

BobRyan said:
In the prayer she talks about white people and divides them into two groups in her prayer.
1. White people that are in hell - and the comment that there is no need for God to help her hate them since there is no point to it.
2. White people that appear nice and do things like invite her to dinner (in her words). She calls them "The other white people" the ones not in hell. She specifically singles that group of "white people" out for needing God to help her to want to hate.

The second paragraph enumerates a third group: "White antiracist allies."

"Dear God, help me hate white people" - Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes, Seminary Professor at Mercer Unv

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