Unbelievers Are Condemned

Mr. M · Apr 7, 2021

Saint Steven said:
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” you will be saved.

This quote states IF
Revelation 16:
8 Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and power was given to him
to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God
who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory.
10 Then the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and his kingdom
became full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues because of the pain.
11 They blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and
did not repent of their deeds.

Do you think I take any pleasure in reading this? Why do they not repent?
Why do they blaspheme?

Mr. M · Apr 7, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
The "OP" are the Words of Christ.
Salvation is based on belief apart from past deeds,
Condemnation is based on unbelief, apart from past deeds.
There is no acceptable threshold of evil deeds that one must cross to be condemned.
Going forward, our professed belief acknowledges that our deeds will be held up to
"the light of Truth", that will prove that "our deeds have been accomplished in (the Will of) God"

Once again, the point of the OP was to discuss the presentation of the Gospel based on
the narrative of John 3. Many have derailed that to push the thread into a "final dispensation"
of men and angels and Judgment. It is a serious issue that many cannot discuss how they
present the Gospel to an unbelieving neighbor, but would rather debate Judgment with other
believers. So many have fallen away from the commission of the Gospel to the lost.
Apparently, there is no such thing.

Mr. M · Apr 7, 2021

This was reiterated in posts 29 and 34, to no avail. I will request the thread to be closed.

Minister Monardo said:
It is not friend. It is about the condemnation of those who do not believe that Jesus Christ
is the Son of God. He goes on to explain why, I will repeat the Words of Christ being discussed
in the OP, if it will help restore the topic of the thread. Please continue the discussion in that light.
John 3:
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
21 But he who does the t

Minister Monardo said:
The point of the narrative contained in the OP, and the teaching of Christ is that salvation
is based on believing the Gospel, not past deeds. Condemnation is based on not believing
the Gospel, not past deeds. Anyone who has spent any time sharing the Gospel can bear witness
to both sides of this Truth.
I have heard this testimony:
"I don't think I need to be concerned about going to heaven when I die. It is not like I have been
out mugging old ladies and taking their purses"
In other words, I have not been bad, I should be okay.
I have also heard this testimony:
"I know where I am going when I die, God doesn't want to have anything to do with me.
I have done too many terrible things."

Someone who cannot share the Gospel that Jesus Christ is teaching in John chapter 3,
they are working with limited understanding.
John 3:
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him
should not perish but have everlasting life.
17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world
through Him might be saved.

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