John 14: BORN AGAIN

disciple Clint · Apr 5, 2021

MMXX said:
I have a list on my home computer, but I'm on my phone. Here's a list of 49 commandments Jesus gave.
What are the commands of Christ?

Well if you are collecting them here is a list of 100 The Commandments of Christ | The Gospel Truth
OR you could just accept what Jesus considered commandments:
Matthew 22:37 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' [] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' [] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Danthemailman · Apr 5, 2021

MMXX said:
We receive the Holy Spirit when we become born again. We become born again when we become saved. We become saved when we repent (have a change of mind/heart) and believe/trust in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior.

Amen! Acts 3:19 - Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord.

Acts 11:17 - If therefore God gave them the same gift (Holy Spirit) as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God? 18 When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance unto life.”

Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise.

BrotherJJ · Apr 5, 2021

disciple Clint said:
John 10:16 I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd.
Isaiah 42:6 "I, the LORD, have called you for a righteous purpose, and I will take hold of your hand. I will keep you and appoint you to be a covenant for the people and a light to the nations,
Matthew 28:19 English Standard Version (ESV) 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[ a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Acts 10:34-36 King James Version (KJV). 34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Ezekiel 38:23 I will magnify and sanctify Myself, and will reveal Myself in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.

Most of the public ministry of Jesus was conducted in Jewish territory. Under the circumstances, the number of personal contacts with Gentiles recorded in the Gospels is surprising. He healed a Gadarene (Gentile) demoniac (Matthew 8:28-34). Another time, among 10 lepers healed, one was a Samaritan (a mixed race, half-Jew), and Jesus remarked upon the fact that only the foreigner returned to thank Him (Luke 17:12-19).

A Samaritan woman was the sole audience for one of Jesus’ greatest dialogues. She received the assurance that the time was near when God would be worshipped, not just in Jerusalem (where the Jews worshipped) or at Mt. Gerizim (where the Samaritans worshipped), but all over the world “in spirit and in truth” (John 4:5-42).

A Canaanite (Gentile) woman’s faith was rewarded when her daughter was healed. Much has been made of Jesus’ challenging remark at the beginning of the encounter: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24, ESV). He declined to heal her because His mission was first to the Jews. The woman understood and didn’t challenge this. Even so, she humbly submitted herself to Jesus, asking for His mercy. The significant point is that Jesus did minister to this Gentile woman and praised her faith in the presence of His disciples and the Jewish onlookers (Matthew 15:28). This incident echoed forward to Romans 15:8-9 that the Gentiles might glorify God for His mercy.

Another example of Jesus reaching the Gentiles involved a Roman centurion whose servant was healed. Commander of a band of 100 foreign soldiers quartered at Capernaum to keep the peace, this Roman leader was despised by the Jews who resented this “army of occupation.” Conscious of his own authority as a military man, he humbly assured Jesus that it would not be necessary for Him to go to his house to heal his servant (and thus render Himself unclean — because He was a Jewish man — by entering a Gentile home). “But only say the word, and my servant will be healed,” he declared with genuine faith (Matthew 8:8, ESV). Jesus turned and announced to the Jewish crowd which was following Him: “Truly, I tell you, with no one in Israel have I found such faith” (Matthew 8:10, ESV). He did not stop there but continued with this solemn prediction: “I tell you, many such foreigners shall come from the east and the west to join Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But many others who thought they were ‘sons of the kingdom’ (the chosen people of Israel) shall be shut out” (Matthew 8: 11-12, author’s paraphrase).

In Jerusalem, during the week of Passover, a group of Greeks who had made a commitment to follow the laws of Judaism asked to speak with Jesus (John 12). Their request for an audience caused Jesus to declare: “The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified” (John 12:23, ESV). The deep interest of the Greeks was evidence that the world was ready for His redemptive mission to be culminated by His atoning death: “And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself” (John 12:32, ESV). “All men” — Greeks as well as Jews — this is the clear implication of these profound words recorded by John.

https://www.cru.org/us/en/train-and...gelism-principles/jesus-and-the-gentiles.html

Matthew 7:6 Jesus said; give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

(MY NOTE: Dogs, swine & gentiles all considered unclean under Jewish Law)

John 18:28 Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the (roman/gentile) hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover.

(MY NOTE: Just being in the gentile hall of judgment made a Jew UNCLEAN!)

Acts 10:28 Peter said unto them, Ye know how that it is an """unlawful""" thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

(MY NOTE: Peter tells Cornelius/a gentile. It's UNLAWFULL for a Jew to hang around gentiles)

John 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him (Jesus), How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

(MY NOTE: Although Samaritans had Jewish roots. They had intermarried (against Mosaic law) & were considered godless/unclean bastards, living outside of covenant seals same as all gentiles)

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
(MY NOTE: Gentiles referred to as the Uncircumcision (vs 11) were without God, having no covenant promises & a hopeless future)

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
(MY NOTE: But, NOW! = Post death & resurrection/new Melchizedek covenant. Believing gentiles are no longer bastards outside of covenant seals)

Council at Jerusalem
Acts 15:
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

(MY NOTE: Jews try to place gentiles under Mosaic law)

5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
(NOTE: These Christ rejecting Pharisees claimed gentile believers needed to be circumcised & commanded them to keep the law of Moses).

6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.
(MY NOTE: The apostles send letters to all the gentile believing churches in Antioch, Syria & Cilicia.)

24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

(MY NOTE: The letters written & sent by Christ chosen apostles. Telling the gentiles you are not, nor were you ever, required to be circumcised or keep Mosaic law)

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves

(MY NOTE: WHICH HAVE NOT THE LAW. Gentiles were never under/had Mosaic law)

tturt · Apr 5, 2021

We want to obey God as the result of being His - not to earn salvation.

There's "...the doctrine of baptisms,..." (Heb 6:2).

(Prepositions help -There's 3 baptisms)

1 - By The Holy Spirit into Jesus which reconciles us to God is the baptism for salvation. Baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ by believing in His death, burial, and resurrection.
(Rev 1:5; Matt 26:28; Mark 1:4-9, 16:16; Luk 3:3; 1 Cor 12:13; Acts 2:38; Gal 3:27, II Cor 5;18).)

Water and Spirit baptism follows salvation - not in a set order though
2 - By another believer (water baptism) "... fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness," All 3 persons of the Godhead endorsed it (Matt 3:13-16). (Matt 3:6,11 ; 28:18-20; Acts 8:39, 10:47, 22:16; John 3:5).

3 - By Jesus - when we asks - who baptists us with the promise of the Father "by," "with" and "in" the Holy Spirit (The Spirit baptism) includes when the Holy Spirit comes upon us, He endures us with power for service to Him and keep His Word. We are to "...keep on being filled with the Spirit." (Acts 1:5, 8:14-17, 10:44-48, 11:16; Matt 3:11; Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, 11:13; I Cor 12:13, Luk 24:49, Eph 5:18, Acts 4:31; I John 3:24; Eze 36:25-28; John 14:25-27).

They're different yet
"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." I John 5:7-8

disciple Clint · Apr 5, 2021

BrotherJJ said:
Matthew 7:6 Jesus said; give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

(MY NOTE: Dogs, swine & gentiles all considered unclean under Jewish Law)

John 18:28 Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the (roman/gentile) hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover.

(MY NOTE: Just being in the gentile hall of judgment made a Jew UNCLEAN!)

Acts 10:28 Peter said unto them, Ye know how that it is an """unlawful""" thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

(MY NOTE: Peter tells Cornelius/a gentile. It's UNLAWFULL for a Jew to hang around gentiles)

John 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him (Jesus), How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

(MY NOTE: Although Samaritans had Jewish roots. They had intermarried (against Mosaic law) & were considered godless/unclean bastards, living outside of covenant seals same as all gentiles)

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
(MY NOTE: Gentiles referred to as the Uncircumcision (vs 11) were without God, having no covenant promises & a hopeless future)

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
(MY NOTE: But, NOW! = Post death & resurrection/new Melchizedek covenant. Believing gentiles are no longer bastards outside of covenant seals)

Council at Jerusalem
Acts 15:
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

(MY NOTE: Jews try to place gentiles under Mosaic law)

5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
(NOTE: These Christ rejecting Pharisees claimed gentile believers needed to be circumcised & commanded them to keep the law of Moses).

6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.
(MY NOTE: The apostles send letters to all the gentile believing churches in Antioch, Syria & Cilicia.)

24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

(MY NOTE: The letters written & sent by Christ chosen apostles. Telling the gentiles you are not, nor were you ever, required to be circumcised or keep Mosaic law)

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves

(MY NOTE: WHICH HAVE NOT THE LAW. Gentiles were never under/had Mosaic law)

Let me just cut to the chase, God is not a Jew nor is God bound by Jewish laws. It was always God's intent to make salvation available to everyone, Jesus died for the salvation of everyone and He said as much. The Scripture to justify what I am saying here is in my previous post.

Guojing · Apr 5, 2021

BrotherJJ said:
Council at Jerusalem
Acts 15:
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

(MY NOTE: Jews try to place gentiles under Mosaic law)

5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
(NOTE: These Christ rejecting Pharisees claimed gentile believers needed to be circumcised & commanded them to keep the law of Moses).

6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.
(MY NOTE: The apostles send letters to all the gentile believing churches in Antioch, Syria & Cilicia.)

24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

(MY NOTE: The letters written & sent by Christ chosen apostles. Telling the gentiles you are not, nor were you ever, required to be circumcised or keep Mosaic law)

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves

(MY NOTE: WHICH HAVE NOT THE LAW. Gentiles were never under/had Mosaic law)

Out of curiosity, have you realized that, while James declared that gentile believers are not to be put under the Law, the issue of whether Jewish believers are also free from the Law was never mentioned by James?

When you combined with a literal reading of the events in Acts 21:20-25, you realized that Jewish believers, the little flock, always had to be zealous for the Law?

BrotherJJ · Apr 5, 2021

disciple Clint said:
Let me just cut to the chase, God is not a Jew nor is God bound by Jewish laws. It was always God's intent to make salvation available to everyone, Jesus died for the salvation of everyone and He said as much. The Scripture to justify what I am saying here is in my previous post.

None of the verses I've shared refute God's overall intent regarding salvation.

The dividing point between 2 covenants is: Christs death & resurrection.

Mosaic covenant was between God & the Nation of Israel only (Ex 19:3 & ALL the Israelis Agreed to it Ex 19:8)

Under the Mosaic Covenant obedience to it's law ordinances brought blessings, disobedience curses (Deut 28).

Circumcision was an absolute requirement under Mosaic law.

Ex 12:43-48. No foreigners, servants, sojourners or strangers could partake in the in the Passover meal unless they were circumcised.

NT believers aren't required to get circumcised. (Acts 15:24)

It's Levitical sin sacrificial system only covered & couldn't take away sin (Heb 10:1-4) & was in fact, a constant reminder of sin.

New covenant
Matt 26:28 (AMP) For this is My blood of the new covenant, which ratifies the agreement and is being poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Matt 26:28 (KJV) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Offered to everyone that will trust in Jesus work.

Unlike the inferior Levitical sin management system. Under the New Eternal Melchizedek Priesthood sin administration. Not only are the believers sins removed. Our great High Priest can provide eternal life.

Jesus retired the old priesthood here: Temple veil is torn in 1/2. (Matt 27:51.)

the OLD Mosaic covenant is now OBSOLETE! (Heb 7:22, 8:13, 9:15)

3 days later in Resurrection power the new Melchizedek Priesthood is established. 50 days later the new covenant is invoked (Acts 2:4 Pentecost)

The Presents/Holy Spirit of God no longer dwells in Temples behind a veil.

It now indwells in the heart & mind of every believer (1 Cor 6:19). Jesus completely removes (via imputation) every sin & additionally imputes HIS righteousness into the NT believer. And we become the righteous of God in Christ (2 Cor 5:21)

When Jesus became a curse (Gal 3:13) He REDEEMED every believers from all non-compliance curses/penalties invoked from breaking Mosaic law

tturt · Apr 5, 2021

Jesus said "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." Matt 4:4

disciple Clint · Apr 5, 2021

BrotherJJ said:
None of the verses I've shared refute God's overall intent regarding salvation.

The dividing point between 2 covenants is: Christs death & resurrection.

Mosaic covenant was between God & the Nation of Israel only (Ex 19:3 & ALL the Israelis Agreed to it Ex 19:8)

Under the Mosaic Covenant obedience to it's law ordinances brought blessings, disobedience curses (Deut 28).

Circumcision was an absolute requirement under Mosaic law.

Ex 12:43-48. No foreigners, servants, sojourners or strangers could partake in the in the Passover meal unless they were circumcised.

NT believers aren't required to get circumcised. (Acts 15:24)

It's Levitical sin sacrificial system only covered & couldn't take away sin (Heb 10:1-4) & was in fact, a constant reminder of sin.

New covenant
Matt 26:28 (AMP) For this is My blood of the new covenant, which ratifies the agreement and is being poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Matt 26:28 (KJV) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Offered to everyone that will trust in Jesus work.

Unlike the inferior Levitical sin management system. Under the New Eternal Melchizedek Priesthood sin administration. Not only are the believers sins removed. Our great High Priest can provide eternal life.

Jesus retired the old priesthood here: Temple veil is torn in 1/2. (Matt 27:51.)

3 days later in Resurrection power the new Melchizedek Priesthood is established. 50 days later the new covenant is invoked (Acts 2:4 Pentecost)

The Presents/Holy Spirit of God no longer dwells in Temples behind a veil.

It now indwells in the heart & mind of every believer (1 Cor 6:19). Jesus completely removes (via imputation) every sin & additionally imputes HIS righteousness into the NT believer. And we become the righteous of God in Christ (2 Cor 5:21)

When Jesus became a curse (Gal 3:13) He REDEEMED every believers from all non-compliance curses/penalties invoked from breaking Mosaic law

We agree on everything except this:

BrotherJJ said:
Jesus mission while alive was to Jews under Mosaic law covenant only. Jewish leadership rejects & has Jesus killed. After His resurrection Jesus chooses Paul (Acts 26:17) & sends him to gentiles.

Jesus was here for everyone, God always intended to be the God of everyone.

BrotherJJ · Apr 5, 2021

disciple Clint said:
We agree on everything except this:
Jesus was here for everyone, God always intended to be the God of everyone.

Again, nothing I posted refutes that. Best wishes, JJ

Ceallaigh · Apr 5, 2021

disciple Clint said:
Well if you are collecting them here is a list of 100 The Commandments of Christ | The Gospel Truth
OR you could just accept what Jesus considered commandments:
Matthew 22:37 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' [] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' [] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Well what I'm saying is His commandments aren't that hard to follow. I'd say the 38 I have are like His top commandments of things He wants us to do as disciples. Others like "render into Caesar..." aren't as duty minded.

disciple Clint · Apr 5, 2021

MMXX said:
Well what I'm saying is His commandments aren't that hard to follow. I'd say the 38 I have are like His top commandments of things He wants us to do as disciples. Others like "render into Caesar..." aren't as duty minded.

Jesus was trying to simplify the 613 laws or commandments that the religious leaders invented into something that everyone could understand and do, seems they had become so involved in legalism that they forgot about having a relationship with God and became works centered instead of faith centered. I would suggest that would equally apply to adding to the commandments when the important two are Love God and Love Your Fellow Man.

1watchman · Apr 5, 2021

It might be helpful if readers understand that the real saints of God are not called "disciples" (followers after a teacher) after the Book of Acts. They are the redeemed "saints" of God IF they are trusting in the Savior: the Lord Jesus Christ. All else are only religious seekers at best.

Jesus is more than 'a teacher', but God manifest in the flesh as a man to show the Creator-God (John 14) and then suffer in the flesh on the Cross to pay the price of redemption. No man can EVER see God for He is a "devouring fire" and always manifested Himself in the Bible in various forms. When the "born again" saints (as John 3:16) go to Heaven they will see the Savior: Jesus Christ, and dwell with Him in the Father's house forever. Our Creator will speak but does not appear in human form other except in Jesus Christ. That is the scriptural message if one seeks it out.

Jesusfann777888 · Apr 6, 2021

TzephanYahu said:
Shalom @Jesusfann777888,

How are you doing my brother?

From what I understand from Scriptures and witnessed in other people's experiences, you do not need to keep the commandments to be baptised with the Holy Spirit. It's a gift of Yahweh given through the Messiah to those He chooses. But one's heart must be right or they will not receive this blessing at all.

Some common misconceptions is that everyone who believes in the Messiah is born of the Holy Spirit or baptised by the Holy Spirit. That isn't true. Just as one knows if they have been baptised in water, so too they will know they have been baptised in the Spirit - and won't be left wondering if it happened or not. I was under this misconception for a long time, because of poor teaching, until thankfully the Father woke me up out of that position.

Now, that said, the commandments are very important. To be clear: Obedience to Torah is not necessary for salvation, but if we are saved we should want to be obedient. Not out of fear of damnation - but out of love and thanksgiving service to the Lord and happy to correct our paths to the righteous one!

Christianity, as it exists today, tends to write-off the OT as "for the Jews" and "we are no longer under the Law" etc. This is primarily based on misunderstanding the Apostle Paul's writings. And, to be fair, some of his words can be hard to understand - but Paul was never against Torah.

Excitingly, the Father seems to be waking up many in these last days to listen to His instructions and put them into practice, wherever we can. The fact you are asking this question may even mean He is opening your eyes to this truth too! Nevertheless, in mainstream Christianity, this subject is still taboo and anyone having a loving respect and observance of Yahweh's Torah is seen as a "legalist", "deceived", "judaizer" or being "under the law trying to be saved by works". Very sad and very unbiblical.

I encourage you to search out this matter directly in the Scriptures - not with the guidance of any man, teacher, church, Bible College or well-renowned commentary. You have the ability within yourself to find out the truth of the matter and don't be afraid if what you discover means you are not following the majority. Majorities rarely mean safety.

But, to start you off, if the Father's Torah is no longer important for the Christian and we are free to live as we wish "under grace", then what did our Lord mean when He said:

"Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 5:19

So then, we see above that obedience to Torah is not a matter of salvation. Salvation is by grace alone, through the atoning death and resurrection of the Messiah. BUT there will be some who will be called "the least" in the Kingdom of God and the Lord describes these people as ones who breaks the commandments and teaches other men to do so - i.e. "we're under grace! The Law no longer applies!"

Does this mean you need to obey all the Torah from today? No. It seems from what we learn in Acts 15, that we are under grace to learn it incrementally and change one step at a time.

As you read through the Scriptures, the Spirit will guide you on matters of Torah and convict you on it gently and slowly (thankfully!) Our Father is full of grace and mercy and He understands that we are all coming from different walks of life and that it will take us time to understand and implement changes. It's taken me years and it's been a fascinating adventure so far and I still have far to go - and I'm super excited for it. And I promise you, if you seek His ways truly with all your heart, soon observance of instructions like the Sabbath will be a pure joy. I look forward to greatly each week!

I wrote to someone else about this matter the other day and perhaps what I shared with him may also help you: If you have the heart to learn, adapt and try to grow in His Ways, it's comparable to the man who already succeeds in these things - even if you stumble and fall at times. But, conversely, if you are unwilling to learn, adapt and try to grow in His Ways, it's comparable to the man who has already failed - even though he hopes in grace. In summary, our heart attitude towards Torah is far more important than our adherence to it - if that makes sense.

This may raise a slew of other questions from you so feel free to ask away and I'll try and help or point you in the right direction at least .

May our Father continue to bless you with Wisdom and insight into His Scriptures and upon the baptism of the Holy Spirit, in the name of His Son.

Love & Shalom

From your last post, when we first talked, I like you, as a friend, and I rarely say this to anyone, so, as my friend, I am somewhat Curious. because you are a seed of Abraham and part of the chosen people, I proceed with Caution with you like always because this is the way Jesus Has Chosen Thing's to be.

I Only am Curious because Messiah said that if you Keep His Commandment's as God, then he and His Father Shall make their abode with you. My Curiosity exist's with the Statement that The Messiah Said that He Will not leave the Apostle's as Orphan's but Will come to them, after he ascends so my Curiosity is more so based on Him Stating To Obey The commandment's to receive The Blessing of His Spirit as home in The Bible has alway's meant a person's body.

I am only curious because it seem's many things are of Concern regarding this matter between:

1. God The Father
2. God the Son
3. God The Holy Spirit

I have been very carefull because of my Expierience's and my foolishness in the past and Severity of these thing's, because God is very immediate to his point, where as men are very relaxed.

you seem very Wise and full of much wisdom so I feel as if it is Wise to listen to you and speak slowly rather than to speak much. As a seed of Abraham, you much more easily understand what is common among your people than i understand as a gentile.

TzephanYahu · Apr 6, 2021

Jesusfann777888 said:
because you are a seed of Abraham and part of the chosen people, I proceed with Caution with you like always because this is the way Jesus Has Chosen Thing's to be.

My friend, you too are a seed of Abraham, if the Son of Yahweh is your Lord. Please consider me as no greater ore lesser than your own brother.

Jesusfann777888 said:
Messiah said that if you Keep His Commandment's as God, then he and His Father Shall make their abode with you. My Curiosity exist's with the Statement that The Messiah Said that He Will not leave the Apostle's as Orphan's but Will come to them, after he ascends so my Curiosity is more so based on Him Stating To Obey The commandment's to receive The Blessing of His Spirit as home in The Bible has alway's meant a person's body.

Then you have understood the Scriptures correctly.

Hold fast always to what the Scriptures say, despite what seems popular today, whatever the church or teacher might say that contradicts the plain meaning of the text, even if their reasoning sounds "Biblical".

Jesusfann777888 said:
because God is very immediate to his point, where as men are very relaxed.

Amen! Then you have correctly understood what it is to have the fear of God, which is the beginning of all wisdom. This seems rare these days.

But, if you wouldn't mind, could you explain your point a little further? What is the main concern or curiosity you have? Perhaps I can help guide you in the right direction if I know, and if I don't I will be straight forward about it.

Jesusfann777888 said:
As a seed of Abraham, you much more easily understand what is common among your people than i understand as a gentile.

My people? You as a gentile? Perhaps my name has given you the impression I'm Jewish?

I was gentile, before coming to Messiah, as were you. But now, we have been grafted into Israel. So "my people" are your people. You are as one with me as though we have been born into the same family - the family of Yahweh.

I hope you're not under the impression that because you still have questions on various topics that you're any less than me or that I'm not your brother. Knowledge doesn't separate you from the family any more than it would your earthly family. So please, let there be no division between us. You have been righteous through Messiah as much as I have, no more and no less

. What great news!

Love & Shalom

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