Russia condemns racism against white Americans

ViaCrucis said:

Uh huh.

-CryptoLutheran

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You got the right one, baby

KarateCowboy said:

This is frighteningly out of touch. Virtually all systemic racism in America is anti white these days.

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White privilege: complaining about BIPOC being racist.

KarateCowboy said:

This is frighteningly out of touch. Virtually all systemic racism in America is anti white these days.

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well that's a point of view that's definitely out there in the land of make believe.

TO THE 7 PEOPLE WHO VOTED "YES:"

Wake up people, Putin doesn't care whether you're white, black, Asian, or polka-dotted. He cares about fomenting internal discord in the USA and Europe by mobilizing White Supremacists all over the world.

Supporting Trump is only one symptom of Russia's policy.

Russia wants to change all democracies into autocracies. This is the issue in the 21st century.

ViaCrucis said:

Oh golly gee, I'm just so glad that Daddy Putin is looking out for little ol' me.

-CryptoLutheran

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Yep, just more help from him, like assistance for Trump in the 2016 election. Very selfless of him and the people who help promote his vision for America.

Nine of Spades said:

From the article:

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Thursday warned that anti-white racism might be building in the United States and said that political correctness “taken to the extreme” would have lamentable consequences.

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“We were pioneers of the movement promoting equal rights of people of any skin color,” he said.

But Lavrov stressed it was important “not to switch to the other extreme which we saw during the ‘BLM’ (Black Lives Matter) events and the aggression against white people, white U.S. citizens.”

Article continues here: Russia Warns of Anti-White 'Aggression' in U.S. - The Moscow Times

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Yep, this is nothing new - https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...on-campaigns-are-targeting-african-americans/

KarateCowboy said:

This is frighteningly out of touch. Virtually all systemic racism in America is anti white these days.

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This is utterly incomprehensible.

Aldebaran said:

Could this be why the Left has been hating on Russia for the past 4 years, and now on white Americans as well? Perhaps it's a race thing after all.

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"The left" hates on Russia because they are a straight up autocracy.

Nine of Spades said:

Is Russia right to condemn racism against white Americans?

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Dont know about right, but definitely smart. Their American social media pot-stirring has paid off handsomely with growing sympathy among right wingers for Putin's autocracy.

What's that? Russia using propaganda to divide people in the US? Quelle suprise!

Eftsoon said:

Racism is about power dynamics. The balance of power is in white hands. Of course it's possible for a white person to suffer racism - travellers in the UK are white and suffer horrendous prejudices. At the same time, in this context it's just an attempt to suppress valid and legitimate protest movements.

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Systemic racism can be driven by power dynamics, but racism (as a thought process), itself, is agnostic with regards to power imbalances.

However, it should be noted that there's different sources of "power" this day in age.

The government is obviously one source of power, but there are other societal sources of power as well in the form of influencers, the public education system, pop culture, and Hollywood. All of those non-government entities that are sources of "power" are solidly in the camp of progressivism with very few exceptions.

To the last comment you made, "it's just an attempt to suppress valid and legitimate protest movements", I actually think it's quite the opposite... it's an attempt to be criticize an semantically overloaded protest movement that markets itself as a legitimate one.

I think the "racism can happen to white people too" or the "All Lives Matter" responses, even though espoused in a way that's often disingenuous, is a sort of defense mechanism that stems from frustration when people can no longer traverse the circular arguments from supporters of the movement.

The common narratives are "If you don't offer blanket support BLM, you're either bigoted yourself, or apathetic to racial injustices"/"If you don't support AntiFa, that must mean you're pro-fascism"

...and typically when someone tries to make any argument against those groups (for reasons unrelated to the semantically stated cause), the circular arguments begin with it always circling back around to the aforementioned narratives.

Pommer said:

White privilege: complaining about BIPOC being racist.

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White privilege is hate speech and a myth

Also, I'm a Slav and Catholic, so not relevant. Try again.

On a side note,

Progressives: Borders are just imaginary lines; no person is illegal

Also Progressives: Borders are real and whites are non-indigenous colonizers. Somehow non-indigenous blacks and yellows don't count. Because reasons.

Hans Blaster said:

Pootin's talking about Americans. This content is irrelevant.

By definition the white people of Zimbabwe aren't Americans.

Those "white-owned farms" existed because Europeans came to southern Africa and took the farms from the people who already lived there. Plus: "blacks who weren't capable of running them" maybe you should do a self-check on the way you use race in your posts.

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They simply expose themselves when they speak this way, it's like reading posts from one of those off-color websites.

KarateCowboy said:

White privilege is hate speech and a myth

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White privilege is real, it is not hate speech, but whatever.

mala said:

well that's a point of view that's definitely out there in the land of make believe.

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Eftsoon said:

This is utterly incomprehensible.

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Something is systemic when it exists within a system regardless of the individuals implementing the system. For example alcoholics anonymous has their famous 12-step system. One of the steps is to acknowledge the authority of God or a higher power. You could accurately describe this as systemic theism. Id est, it is theism that is part of the system regardless of who is implementing it.

So systemic racism is racism that exists within the system regardless of the person's operating or implementing it. What that means is policies, programs, procedures, and whole institutions that discriminate on the basis of race. When we look at America today, that is virtually always anti-white. In universities they have fought tooth and nail to be able to discriminate against White people. And increasingly we are seeing the same thing in businesses, K12 education, and government. Coca-cola, Nike, Google, Apple, Amazon, Disney, Marvel, Wizards, Nabisco --I can't buy a cookie without engaging an institution that has special programs, policies and procedures that give special benefits to everyone on the basis of race except whites.

You would be hard-pressed to find an institution that is not bending over backwards to help everyone except White people. As such, my point stands as factual

KarateCowboy said:

Something is systemic when it exists within a system regardless of the individuals implementing the system. For example alcoholics anonymous has their famous 12-step system. One of the steps is to acknowledge the authority of God or a higher power. You could actually describe this as systemic theism.

So systemic racism is racism that exists within the system regardless of the person's operating it. What that means is policies, programs, procedures, and whole institutions that discriminate on the basis of race. When we look at America today, that is virtually always anti-white. In universities they have fought tooth and nail to be able to discriminate against White people. And increasingly we are saying the same thing in businesses, K12 education, and government.

You would be hard-pressed to find an institution that is not bending over backwards to help everyone except White people. As such, my point stands as factual

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That's a very warped view, but unsurprising. Ever civil rights legislation was passed for women, African Americans, immigrants, prisoners, the disabled, LGBTQ community, etc., we get this new argument about the loss of rights for white people. It would seem that they were so used to a world built for them that when it no longer was built for them, they regarded it as oppression.

Nine of Spades said:

They certainly wouldn’t be well-received in Zimbabwe where Robert Mugabe, a terrible leader who hates white people, stole all the white-owned farms in his country and handed them over to inexperienced blacks who weren’t capable of running them, turning that country into a complete basket case.

If you are a sincere opponent of racism, you must oppose it no matter which group is the perpetrator and which group is the victim.

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Wow this is so ugly. Firstly if you do not know everything about the history of a place, please don't talk, who did that land belong to before your glorious white farmers came. How come you did not talk about how black people were killed and displaced in order for a man to won land. Mugabe was a man with many faults, but land reform was a great idea.

SummerMadness said:

That's a very warped view, but unsurprising. Ever civil rights legislation was passed for women, African Americans, immigrants, prisoners, the disabled, LGBTQ community, etc., we get this new argument about the loss of rights for white people. It would seem that they were so used to a world built for them that when it no longer was built for them, they regarded it as oppression.

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I'm actually a Slav and Catholic, so your "Deal with the come-uppance, whitey" shtick is irrelevant. Obama is more of a WASP than I am.

Try again.

Nine of Spades said:

I said it was inexperienced blacks who weren't capable of running those farms. You willfully left out that word to make it sound like I made a racist remark, which I clearly didn't.

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We Zimbabweans didn't just want farms, we wanted our land!

ForHimbyHim said:

Wow this is so ugly. Firstly if you do not know everything about the history of a place, please don't talk, who did that land belong to before your glorious white farmers came. How come you did not talk about how black people were killed and displaced in order for a man to won land. Mugabe was a man with many faults, but land reform was a great idea.

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ForHimbyHim: Don't talk about a place when you don't know it's history

Also ForhimByHim: Black people were displaced from a nation that is more than 95% black.