did I read this correctly?

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But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
So, if you've ever made a promise to God a broken it you're Condemned? well, look's like everyone's going to hell.

Swearing and making a vow with Him are two different things.
 
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9 Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man.

10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

so, if a widow remmarrie's she betray's God and go's to hell? how many other sin's do you go to hell for?

This seem's Heavily Contradicted and Overturned by God In Revelation talking to the angel and one of the church's when(paraphrasing) God has somewhat against the church because it left it's first love, and it should repent so that it's candlestick is not removed.

How is God allowing for an entire church to repent for leaving it's first love, Him, and Paul is saying a widow who want's to remmary is betraying God and is Condemned.
What?
How did you come to conclusion first love in church is talking about marriage and sex lol
When Jesus said go back to your first love it meant for Church to repent from being lazy and comfortable and go back to when they first met Jesus and were baptised by Holy Spirit it has nothing to do with sex.

Nothing of what quoted has to do with hell aswell mate you have wrong understanding of Bible in all cores of faith seems like.
 
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when The Bible Make'S statement's in tandem with "Condemnation" that are about as easy to commit as sneezing and we're all sinner's I Tend to view that as a drama thing.
When you hit a verse like this check it out in many translations. "Condemned" in my view is overwrought. Krima is the Greek word, and it can simply mean "a judgment", as opposed to CONDEMNATION. I think a lot of the translations get this verse wrong.

In any case, you must not take one passage out of the broader context of Scripture. This does not rise to being a salvation issue.

Nothing would ever get done if people didn't make commitments, or even simple agreements. So then what did the Lord mean when He said not to take oaths? I believe He meant we should not take them in self-righteousness. We should not call down heaven and earth as our witness, etc, as if we can perform in our own strength. Rather, we should be humble and acknowledge that we can do nothing without the Lord, and then commit to do what we can with His help -"if God will allow" is how the writer of Hebrews puts it.

I recommend you begin to use a version of the Bible that has updated English. Whatever the KJV meant 400 years ago, meanings have changed and it's possible to misconstrue from it what the original text was trying to say.
 
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9 Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man.

10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

so, if a widow remmarrie's she betray's God and go's to hell? how many other sin's do you go to hell for?

This seem's Heavily Contradicted and Overturned by God In Revelation talking to the angel and one of the church's when(paraphrasing) God has somewhat against the church because it left it's first love, and it should repent so that it's candlestick is not removed.

How is God allowing for an entire church to repent for leaving it's first love, Him, and Paul is saying a widow who want's to remmary is betraying God and is Condemned.
9 Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man.

10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

so, if a widow remmarrie's she betray's God and go's to hell? how many other sin's do you go to hell for?

This seem's Heavily Contradicted and Overturned by God In Revelation talking to the angel and one of the church's when(paraphrasing) God has somewhat against the church because it left it's first love, and it should repent so that it's candlestick is not removed.

How is God allowing for an entire church to repent for leaving it's first love, Him, and Paul is saying a widow who want's to remmary is betraying God and is Condemned.
Let's step back a bit. On first read it sure sounds like a very unfair declaration for younger widows. However, this is not the case. The key word here is "really". What does it really mean to be a widow. Another key is age group, older widows and younger widows. In both cases widows are vulnerable yet have different roles in the community.
Paul encourages young widows to marry as we see in verse 14. However, if a young widow first commits herself to the church she must keep her agreement in service to the church and not marry. She essentially is married to the church in servitude. If she breaks her committment then Paul is rebuking her. He is merely stating that it is much harder for a younger widow than for an older widow to take this step and that if she breaks it she will only bring damnation to herself by violating her first love. Blessings.
 
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Let's step back a bit. On first read it sure sounds like a very unfair declaration for younger widows. However, this is not the case. The key word here is "really". What does it really mean to be a widow. Another key is age group, older widows and younger widows. In both cases widows are vulnerable yet have different roles in the community.
Paul encourages young widows to marry as we see in verse 14. However, if a young widow first commits herself to the church she must keep her agreement in service to the church and not marry. She essentially is married to the church in servitude. If she breaks her committment then Paul is rebuking her. He is merely stating that it is much harder for a younger widow than for an older widow to take this step and that if she breaks it she will only bring damnation to herself by violating her first love. Blessings.
That's what I thought after making certain considerations after reading it, I was confused with the context with what seemed to be stated because God Himself had made prohibitions on taking oaths and I couldn't conceptually understand how Paul was asserting that oaths could be taken in terms of service to the church.

It was confusing in context because Paul's ministry reflected a large amount of context in relation to the gentiles. I also considered that at that particular point in time, because Paul seemed aware of how people act, a long with many of the other statements made by Paul that Through The Holy Spirit he would be aware of the fact none are to take oaths because The Spirit of Testimony and Revaluation is Jesus Christ.
 
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Either way God himself Said You Shall Not Sweat An OATH because you can not keep it. so is Paul disregarding Scripture?
And what's wrong with wanting to marry? God Said no one is bound to a marriage covenant after their spouse dies so are all people suppose to get married before they become Christian? Paul ain't making no sense.

Nothing wrong with wanting to marry, it was the fact that these women made a vow and God takes vows very seriously. Basically in modern language "Don't let the young women make vows before God to remain single and be prayer warriors because they are young enough that they may want to marry again"

Some relevant verses about how serious vows are to God:

When you make a vow to God, do not be late in paying it; for He takes no delight in fools. Pay what you vow! Ecclesiastes 5:4

“When you make a vow to the Lord your God, you shall not delay to pay it, for it would be sin in you, and the Lord your God will surely require it of you. Deuteronomy 23:21

To add that is why Christ said not to make vows to God because they are extremely serious as the above verses illustrate.

paul said that they were condemned if they remarry, I'm not trying to make this an issue, but,that's a salvation issue.

Not really, the King James Translators put it this way other translations are more accurate in this case
 
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when The Bible Make'S statement's in tandem with "Condemnation" that are about as easy to commit as sneezing and we're all sinner's I Tend to view that as a drama thing.

I would caution you not to argue against the Word of God, friend by your reasoning, for to understand God's Word we must not take verses out of context. I urge you to begin reading the Holy Bible systematically in the New Testament through all the four Gospels: Matthew; Mark; Luke; John (noting especially John 3; John 14); and then study Acts (which is a transition book introducing church truth in the several Epistles: letters); then see what God says to the 'churches in various cities; etc. You might then be able to understand God's purposes for us. God NEVER makes a mistake!
 
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