The meaning of God exists as three persons

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The Father and the Son are not separate beings by being born of the Father before all ages and in the beginning the word being with God it means the word comes from the Father and reveals the Father.

He was from the beginning but He proceeded forth and came from the Father from the beginning because the meaning of God exists in three persons is because God can not be known fully without an invisible part of Him who is known as the Father.

He is the head of what makes Him up the Son being part of Him to reveal Him but not invisible part to know the whole of Him and because you can not know God fully without knowing the invisible part of Him who can not be known He is known as a person who is the Father and He can not be known without His Son who is in Him and is the manifestation of His Father who is sent to show the Father as He is His word and is His very mind and He is the express image of His person.

He is not the full picture of God you can not know God fully the Son is fully God because He is one being with the Father but the Son only reveals part of the being you have to know the Father and Jesus says he who has seen Me has seen the Father because they are one.

He is not a seperate person to make them different beings but you can not know the Father without the Son through the Son one is able to see the Father as more of His being is known so He is said to be a person and Jesus allows you to see Him and to know Him so we can see the Father so Jesus said My Father and I are one.

By begotten it means His Son comes from the Father because He is His very word and character but this is from the beginning of all ages so because you need to know the Son to know the Father who you need to know to know God fully they are said to be persons because you also must have relationship with the Father to know God also and you are able to have relationship with the Father and to know Him through His Son His word.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God that dwells in believers to allow them to know the Son and help them follow Him that is why it is said the Father will send in His name because it is to allow them to know the Son
 
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The Father and the Son are not separate beings by being born of the Father before all ages and in the beginning the word being with God it means the word comes from the Father and reveals the Father He was from the beginning but He proceeded forth and came from the Father from the beginning because the meaning of God exists in three persons is because God can not be known fully without an invisible part of Him who is known as the Father and He is the head of what makes Him up the Son being part of Him to reveal Him but not invisible part to know the whole of Him and because you can not know God fully without knowing the invisible part of Him who can not be known he is known as a person who is the Father and He can not be known without His Son who is in Him and is the manifestation of His Father who is sent to show the Father as He is His word and is His very mind and He is the express image of His person but He is not the full picture of God you can not know God fully the Son is fully God because He is one being with the Father but the Son only reveals part of the being you have to know the Father and Jesus says he who has seen Me has seen the Father because they are one he is not a seperate person to make them different beings but you can not know the Father without the Son through the Son one is able to see the Father as more of His being is known so He is said to be a person and Jesus allows you to see Him and to know Him so we can see the Father so Jesus said My Father and I are one. By begotten it means His Son comes from the Father because He is His very word and character but this is from the beginning of all ages so because you need to know the Son to know the Father who you need to know to know God fully they are said to be persons because you also must have relationship with the Father to know God also and you are able to have relationship with the Father and to know Him through His Son His word
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When it says God sent His Son to save us it means God came down to earth in a human body through the part of Him that is able to manifest itself to man for people to have an understanding about the Father to be able to know the Father who you can not know directly to see Him directly as He does not manifest Himself to others except through His Son He remained still in heaven with the Father but He was on earth also by coming to earth and taking upon Himself all the temptations that man could fall in so that others can have power over the sin and not fall from the sin and to pay for the sins one may have fallen into from the sin that the first man Adam fell in to every temptation that man could be tempted from later and overcoming he is able to take upon himself the sin of the whole world and to pay for all our sins to forgive and redeem us by taking away our sins and helping to restore us to communion with God by sending us the Holy Spirit which we are now able to receive because of Him to renew us
 
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When it says let us make man in our image it shows that man also exists in parts like trinity as man is in God image God said let us make man in our image but mankind is not all powerful or self sufficient able to enjoy life without another out of God love He wanted man to enjoy also what He has just as man has a mind but the mind is not the whole of man so God has a Son the word but it is not the whole of God to know Him to see him fully for only the Son is seen like man is seen and one can not know Him fully unless the Son allows one to know Him fully who believe in Him and have relationship with Him for Him to reveal himself more

the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God that belongs to Him that He uses to create the world and He is instructed to by the word of God the Son
 
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Jesus when He took on human flesh emptied Himself of His power as He had to be like man to pay for man sin. It was the head of His divine person which is His Father that is the head of His person that has all the power which the Son being of Him also had but He allowed Himself when He became man to give up that power temporarily.

The Father is the head which is who God is but He can not be fully known as He is invisible He has a part of Him which is the Son which is that part of God that is able to reveal to the world which took on flesh.He was united to the Father always as He is God but He taking on mans sins suffered the punishment that man deserves so because of His humanity the Son was forsaken from intimacy that He did have as the Son with the Father such as a person would have with himself when one is fully himself in completeness because He was always one with the Father but He emptied Himself of His glory.

It means because the Son allowed Himself to suffer for our sake to temporarily be without His full glory in order to die for us and redeem us to be separated from full fellowship with His Father Himself His full glory until it is accomplished and then the Father who He is is commanded to give glory back to Son and raise Him up
 
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The Father refers to what is normally the invisible part of the Godhead that you can’t see without the Son that has a personality to be known also the Holy Spirit also they are parts of God that all exist together the Son is God but He of the Father that is why He is called begotten Son He exists and manifests Himself while being dependent on the Father as He is one with Him and the Holy Spirit gives some more ability to know God so has a personality but all personalities are to know the Father

it is wrong to say the Son is not a part of God even though He manifests in three persons they are all God of the same one yet they are not all the complete God apart from all that is from Him that makes Him up
 
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The Father makes up the fullness of divinity with the Son which allows the humanity of Jesus to suffer to be emptied of His power that exists always to refuse the help of the head of the making of His divinity that exists but not to help while His humanity suffered so He said My God why have you forsaken Me as the Father is the head of the God head to control the Son being part of Him to reveal Himself and He is giving up that control to not spare the body of Jesus and He said Father forgive them not because He is separate but because the Father is that part of Him that does not carry the sin that dwells without the sin of man which He can not look on us until our sin is taken away through Christ to forgive also the sin of murdering Christ who taught the truth not to exact vengeance on them if they repent as they knew not what they do.
 
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Jesus leaned on the head of His divinity being human making Himself emptied of His power as human but still having it as He seeks as He is one with the Father so can so He said all the Father has is mine as He is one with Him but chose to make Himself as He is able not to know refusing knowledge that belongs to Him as He is able to not know all things as man but if He wants He will know emptying himself making Him subject to command of the head of His divinity called the Father as He said the Father and Me are one that He may return to his position of oneness with his head the Father. He made Himself to know certain knowledge instructions from head of His divinity to tell His humanity yet having divinity also sharing oneness to know also all the Father has which is His to not seek to know other things while He is human.
 
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Jesus as human was limited by what the Father that is that part of Him that did not come human as the Son was both human and divine able to know what the divine part of Him the Father which is who He is before He comes chooses for Him to know. For the Father is that part that has all the power which He is able to know from that part of Him that is in heaven to know when He needs to about that which He arranged when to know before He comes as He had arranged for the ruling of the universe in all situations what He will do to know in all scenarios if angels and humans what they choose to arrange what He would respond by His power as His understanding is infinite.

Though the Son does not need to know for before He came He arranged for Himself to be limited in some knowledge to be able to rule heaven by His power as being God He can hold the universe to arrange for it to be held by His power throughout Jesus life for Him to know all the temptations He will face before He comes and to arrange for Him whatever happens to have knowledge when He needs depending on the outcome to yet also to take away from one knowledge when He is human when He is to be tempted yet certain things He can know but choose not to but is not necessary for ruling universe.

As a baby He could or could not have known all things that is necessary to rule heaven but limited Himself to not knowing certain things but not about ruling heaven only when such knowledge must be concealed for tempting but to allow Him at same time to know when He needs to afterwards or He could have ruled heaven before He comes to be able to hold the universe having the power He arranged for Him to know everything that He will need to know to complete His mission to reveal being God He can arrange to hold the universe together before He comes no matter what happens within time without knowing how He arranged to run it when He is on earth but to arrange for Him to know when He comes what He needs to know if He seeks to.
 
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When Jesus speaks to the Father it is because as man He is now dependent on the source of His divinity that part of Him that rules heaven and does not have the glory He had with the Father before world was that is to be fully in position of power which His rule over all is only when He is one with His power which rules heaven which that part of Him that holds power in heaven is referred to as His Father in having a body and needing to learn obedience as a man not allowing all His power to be given to Him at once except what He needs yet having access if He wants as it belongs to Him as He is God and can know whenever He seeks to get knowledge which He chooses not to obtain when He does not need to.


That power of His was used before He comes to ensure to rule heaven and earth to grant Him access to all His power that remain before He comes which is ruling heaven that He is provided access to seek to know when He wants to know to be able to see the fullness of who He is which He does not know until He seeks it and refers to knowledge of who He is without the lack of power temporarily as man and the part that He is to experience about Himself that He is to learn to know as man about His essence that He made him to rely to seek to communicate with what He left to allow to access in heaven when He seeks to make Him complete that He does not have now as His Father who has power when He said Father forgive them for as man He intercede for humanity for its sins against His holy nature before that part of Him where His full glory resides to be able to live with and not to use the power of His that He still has which still controls but which allow Christ as man to suffer not to use His power to suffer God wrath against man sins by becoming man to represent them which that part of Him that He comes to know as man that is who He shares with to contain His holy nature is the Father who as man pays for sins of humanity against it to offer forgiveness for all. The Father is that part of Him that is divine the source of Him that has no humanity.He says to say our Father in heaven as He said My Father and your Father as human allowing Himself to be emptied of all the knowledge He has of all that He is able to know about Himself that He chose to conceal before He comes until He chooses to access that knowledge He provided for Him to have access to.
 
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This is a clear explanation to show how Jesus fulfills the scripture of Messiah and how He shows He is same God and fulfills that scripture by a person I found to hear that I find very knowledgeable but I don’t agree with all views to teach as fact such as his view in post tribulation rapture for though could be true it is dangerous to preach because there could be pretribulation rapture I think it seems more reasonable that God would not put all believers through it except those who He chooses to prepare them who are ready to endure that if they have tribulation it is not major one though God will prepare others who believe then He would spare many from pain if He did not choose them to prepare them to give them ability.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=h7kvjmZcLY4
 
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When one says God watched His Son die it is not accurate because the Father and the Son are one only that He suffered in His humanity and was separated from being delivered by His divinity that did not die with the Son humanity because the divinity does not die and was therefore able to raise Him up but the divinity did not help the Son in his humanity from suffering so He felt forsaken but was with Him to raise Him after death.

He is one with the divine part of Him but such divine part can not die that is to suffer only human flesh does that only His human part aided by His divinity that is not separate from His humanity is able to take full unlimited punishment to suffer in the place of man and yet be raised also. His divine part is one person with the Father that He is that part that was with the Father so is one God from the beginning that gets its existence from the Father just as our mind is not us yet not seperate from us that it exists because of us.
 
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The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit all exist from God the Father as forms emanating from God the Father to know them separately as Holy Spirit is God Spirit and Jesus is the express visible image of God the Father and the word of God the result of God mind that the Holy Spirit connects you with Jesus who reveals the Father they are not different entities but exists in another form and parts of God but each is part to reveal the Father.
 
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