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Sophrosyne

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But where in the Bible does it say to stand up for one's own rights under a tyrannical government? I read many testimonies about people who risk their lives every day just by being Christian who do obey the government as much as possible, even with how evil their government may be. Yet, they defy the government to meet with other believers in under ground churches or to distribute Bibles or to even just tell someone else the Gospel. I think this is the fight God has called us to. I like conservatism, but I often think many conservatives are conservative first and Christian second.

I agree with you that what America has gone through the past year is not good, however I would hardly call it persecution. I think American Christians have yet to really suffer and endure trials for Christ names sake.
I guess the scripture that equates loving your neighbor as YOURSELF may come to mind. If you have no love or respect for your own rights then standing up for others rights may not happen either.
 
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I think this is a but off topic, but, I'm sure satan want's and Love's the idea of Christian martyrdom, for the simple reason it gets them and The Gospel out of the way. Sure, observer's see a Christian beheaded, but when has that ever changed anybody throughout the course of history of a civilization? Throughout The Bible, God saved all those people who people Tried to kill, I doubt God wants people to be martyrd.
In fact, I think it's the other way around. If someone dies a martyrs death, then they are surely going to be with the Father and satan hates this the most. Satan would rather us be thrown in the lake of fire with him and his demons in everlasting torment. Jesus died on the cross, all the apostles died for their faith in Christ, Jesus even talks about how the prophets were killed at the hands of their own people for speaking the truth about God. Truth is, many times the righteous do die. But I do not believe this to be in vain because as I said, this is not our final home.
 
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I guess the scripture that equates loving your neighbor as YOURSELF may come to mind. If you have no love or respect for your own rights then standing up for others rights may not happen either.
Jesus made no implication that commandment had anything to do with standing up for one's personal rights.
 
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There aren’t any checkpoints in NY either, nor were there. I crossed state lines daily with no issues. Somebody is being a smidge dramatic.

Are you sure about that? There were indeed checkpoints during the surge last summer.

Not being dramatic at all. They had them here in Florida too.
 
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In fact, I think it's the other way around. If someone dies a martyrs death, then they are surely going to be with the Father and satan hates this the most. Satan would rather us be thrown in the lake of fire with him and his demons in everlasting torment. Jesus died on the cross, all the apostles died for their faith in Christ, Jesus even talks about how the prophets were killed at the hands of their own people for speaking the truth about God. Truth is, many times the righteous do die. But I do not believe this to be in vain because as I said, this is not our final home.
I'm Considering it from the standpoint of a legitimate war. people treat life like it's suppose to be wonderfully and great, where the devil for a time simply lulled everybody into vanity and daily life that is a form of idolotry.

I've noticed that many "Christian's" seem ignorant or act ridiculous when you state this is a war. While these people are lost in diver's lust's, satan has always been the devil, the accuser and does not stop or sleep trying to get people into hell. I have noticed for a long time now that the devil and it's army, are organized. they work together, assist each other, spend time together conducting satanic practice's and rituals aimed at Christian's and Christian's have problem's going to church, do not help each other and live self-centered lifestyles. This all came about because:

1. Christians did not defend The Bible Against science.
2. The world adopted a progressive agenda as a result.
3. This was always the world's plan as on currency, and goverment institution's satanic depiction's have been depicted for a ridiculous length of time. Christian's for too long have thought they were arguing with " atheist's " when in actuality they were arguing with satanists.
4. The world then instituted goverment oversight.
5. The goverment then decided to globally shut down the world, odd how the entire world [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] down for a pandemic that only spread between China and america, and other countrie's that are far off that don't even trade with america or China we're shut down due to covid-19 in there countrie's! Ha goverment b's.

Then on goverment sites they basically plainly state they are instituting the mark of the beast and when someone Say's something about it, it get's laughed at. there are many satanist's in this country, and the fact the very first president of the United States plainly said he intended to establish the new world order, really leaves me dumb-founded how people are confused about what's going on. I mean they couldn't make it more obvious with six feet standing apart from each other, repeated three time's in buildings or that they plainly say they are establishing the new world order. It's inane that Christian's instead of saying wait a minute, let's help each other out and pitch in and buy some land and make some home's here and plant some food source and live here, instead bicker about the covid-19 vaccine. this is pathetic, and this is a war and people are treating it like the goverment gets to steamroll whoever it want's. so much for those independent folk's, they can't even say "no" when someone's trying to kill them.
 
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Jesus made no implication that commandment had anything to do with standing up for one's personal rights.
If loving your neighbor is standing up for his rights then loving your neighbor as yourself requires you to do likewise for yourself.
 
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I'm Considering it from the standpoint of a legitimate war. people treat life like it's suppose to be wonderfully and great, where the devil for a time simply lulled everybody into vanity and daily life that is a form of idolotry.

I've noticed that many "Christian's" seem ignorant or act ridiculous when you state this is a war. While these people are lost in diver's lust's, satan has always been the devil, the accuser and does not stop or sleep trying to get people into hell. I have noticed for a long time now that the devil and it's army, are organized. they work together, assist each other, spend time together conducting satanic practice's and rituals aimed at Christian's and Christian's have problem's going to church, do not help each other and live self-centered lifestyles. This all came about because:

1. Christians did not defend The Bible Against science.
2. The world adopted a progressive agenda as a result.
3. This was always the world's plan as on currency, and goverment institution's satanic depiction's have been depicted for a ridiculous length of time. Christian's for too long have thought they were arguing with " atheist's " when in actuality they were arguing with satanists.
4. The world then instituted goverment oversight.
5. The goverment then decided to globally shut down the world, odd how the entire world [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] down for a pandemic that only spread between China and america, and other countrie's that are far off that don't even trade with america or China we're shut down due to covid-19 in there countrie's! Ha goverment b's.

Then on goverment sites they basically plainly state they are instituting the mark of the beast and when someone Say's something about it, it get's laughed at. there are many satanist's in this country, and the fact the very first president of the United States plainly said he intended to establish the new world order, really leaves me dumb-founded how people are confused about what's going on. I mean they couldn't make it more obvious with six feet standing apart from each other, repeated three time's in buildings or that they plainly say they are establishing the new world order. It's inane that Christian's instead of saying wait a minute, let's help each other out and pitch in and buy some land and make some home's here and plant some food source and live here, instead bicker about the covid-19 vaccine. this is pathetic, and this is a war and people are treating it like the goverment gets to steamroll whoever it want's. so much for those independent folk's, they can't even say "no" when someone's trying to kill them.
I agree with everything you've said here brother. Yes, this is a war and most people really don't understand what's going on behind the scenes or even grasp the war that is taking place in the heavenly realm. Before this thread gets closed, I'm going to leave this link here as good proof as to what the elites want to implement in the coming future. This is preparing for the mark for sure. All that's needed is the anti-Christ and the beast system to be put in place. This isn't a joke, and any Christian should be concerned. Let's pray for the strength to endure the times to come. For those with eyes to see, let them see. For those with ears to hear, let them hear. God bless you all.

 
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I have asked the thread to be closed. Those who encouraged me to get the vaccine, thank you! Those who said it was painless, thank you! You helped me make the right decision and get the vaccine.
let people have a conversation, don't try to control people still having a discussion.
 
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let people have a conversation, don't try to control people still having a discussion.

Considering it is my thread, I can ask the moderators to shut it down. It has run its course and I got the encouragement I needed to get the vaccine.
 
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I agree with everything you've said here brother. Yes, this is a war and most people really don't understand what's going on behind the scenes or even grasp the war that is taking place in the heavenly realm. Before this thread gets closed, I'm going to leave this link here as good proof as to what the elites want to implement in the coming future. This is preparing for the mark for sure. All that's needed is the anti-Christ and the beast system to be put in place. This isn't a joke, and any Christian should be concerned. Let's pray for the strength to endure the times to come. For those with eyes to see, let them see. For those with ears to hear, let them hear. God bless you all.


They couldn't make it more obvious with the pentagram. that's exactly why I said, God never said to obey the goverment.

You know what going on, run the race, God is as Real as He Could Possibly and Forever Be.
 
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Considering it is my thread, I can ask the moderators to shut it down. It has run its course and I got the encouragement I needed to get the vaccine.
you are way too controlling, to try to control a thread because you feel like you got what you wanted. that's childish. either way, I'm personally ignoring you.
 
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you are way too controlling, to try to control a thread because you feel like you got what you wanted. that's childish. either way, I'm personally ignoring you.

Good for you?

I'm not sure what part of it is my thread you don't understand? I'm also not anti-vaccine in the least for any vaccine. So, this talk of not obeying the government and what have you, especially in regards to vaccines will not happen in a thread that I start.

You want to start a thread in regards to what you're talking about, go ahead, however I warn you now. It may get shut down anyway as there is a standing rule that medical advice will not be given out in the forums or advice not to follow medical advice.
 
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