Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp Signs Election Integrity Bill

Albion said:

How about a picture that might possibly support the claim you made? Oh, that's right. There aren't any.

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I don’t go around and try to prove to people that “ sky is blue” or “the earth is round”. I just accepted the fact that there are people in this earth who will not accept that earth is round. Same goes for racism. In other post I said , we just have to accept the fact that in America there are people who will not accept racism is real in 2021.

I accepted the fact that in America there are people who thinks it is ok for a police officer to shoot a African American 7 times , I accepted the fact that in America there are Americans who think it is ok for an unarmed teenager get killed in the hand of police and somehow it is the faut of black culture. I just pray I or majority Americans don’t became like “them” who thinks racism is only “in the head of minorities’ or it is the fault of minorities.

Aldebaran said:

Then what are you doing here?

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A little Christian witness in a forum all but overrun by the Religious Right is probably a good thing.

tz620q said:

Just saw video tape taken in Precinct 3 in Minneapolis after the death of George Floyd. The mayor ordered the police to abandon the building. It was ransacked and partially burned. It still hasn't reopened to this day and the area around it is without police. The video looked a lot like the capitol riots.

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Again , you just prove my point, rather then accepting the fact that police was wrong in George Floyd murder, you blame the response. If republican white Americans would accept the fact that Police brutality toward African Americans is a systematic racism and need to be changed, we would not have BLM movement on the street. Point is, no matter what, some Americans will not accept the fact systematic racism is a real issue in America .

Black athletes go on their knees and pray during national Anthem, white Americans say “ how dare you insulting our flag”. , black young men protest on the street against police brutality , White Americans say “ police are on the right side, it is your culture which is the problem”. Black men go and burn few business down , White Americans say “ Look they are all savages, that is why police do what they do to these savage” .

In another word .. these white Americans will not accept “systematic racism” is still a real thing in America. You can pray on your knees, not good enough, you protest on the street, not good enough, and if you burn few houses down .. now you are the savages who should be treated with iron hand.

Aldebaran said:

Then what are you doing here?

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I am just letting people know I “accepted” them who disagree with me.

Tiberius Lee said:

I don’t go around and try to prove to people that “ sky is blue” or “the earth is round”. I just accepted the fact that there are people in this earth who will not accept that earth is round. Same goes for racism.

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That much was fine. We all agree. Now we also ought to agree that it's similarly wrong to stigmatize huge groups of people who have and had nothing to do with what you are upset about.

Tiberius Lee said:

I think we are passed that point when “GOP needs to be open to minorities”. Today, if you call a republican “racist” they take it as “ Badge of honor” and blame you that you are using race card.

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Look I am not the one that makes such generalized statements as you just did. I am also not the one that placed a picture from the Capitol riots in a thread about Georgia voting laws. This photo would seem to imply that the Georgia voting laws are somehow linked to the Capitol riots. With your statement before, the implication is that you consider the Georgia legislature to be a bunch of Republican racists, as bad as the Capitol rioters. Let me ask you a question. How many times have you seen images and video from the Capitol riots on the media in the last month and a half? How many times did you see video from Precinct 3 in Minneapolis getting torn up? My guess is that you have never seen it. I know that these two events are not proportional; but when viewing the videos I was struck by the similarities.

Albion said:

That much was fine. We all agree. Now we also ought to agree that it's similarly wrong to stigmatize huge groups of people who have and had nothing to do with what you are upset about.

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Let me see if I can answer you question w/o getting banned in the forum. I consider Trump is one of the most racist person in our modern day who ran for POTUS. Trump’s character, his personality , his past history and behavior, his policy all reflects only one thing – he is a racist. You don’t have to agree with me , but that is what I think about him. 75+ millions Americans supported and wanted him to be POTUS. How do you want me to identify these 75 millions people who supported and voted for Trump – Most divers open minded folks ?

Tiberius Lee said:

Let me see if I can answer you question w/o getting banned in the forum. I consider Trump is one of the most racist person in our modern day who ran for POTUS.

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Nope. At this stage of things in this thread, it's not time for some rant or screed that's pure opinion.

tz620q said:

Strange that noone is talking about disenfranchisement on this topic.

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Personally, kinda gives me the idea that the actual GA law and the reasons for it are indefensible.

Aldebaran said:

How does your question relate to grown adults having enough common sense to bring a water bottle with them if they're concerned about being thirsty?

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If you didn't want to compare voters to school aged children, you could have avoided the whole diversion by not bringing it up in the first place. But hey, I get there's no really convincing explanation for why the GA GOP is behind measures to make it harder for people to vote, so we're stuck with the talking points made up to distract from that fact.

KCfromNC said:

Personally, kinda gives me the idea that the actual GA law and the reasons for it are indefensible.

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If you would like to discuss individual points of the new law, then that is fine. Saying it is indefensible is pure opinion, which is what most of our media is presenting right now. Our current president did the same thing. I think that the court challenges to this law will fail. So that tends to say that from a legal point of view, it is defensible.

tz620q said:

If you would like to discuss individual points of the new law, then that is fine. Saying it is indefensible is pure opinion

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It is more a tentative conclusion based on the quantity and timing of posts trying to change the subject rather than address the reasons why the bill is needed. I even quoted one.

Aldebaran said:

You people who seem totally opposed to election security

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This is a false characterization of my opinions on the subject. Nice try, though, better luck next time.

Make it two forms of ID, one with your picture, the other your Covid vaccine card.

NightHawkeye said:

Now I'm genuinely curious.

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If you say so.

Care to explain which election security measures you do support?

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Mainly keeping the status quo. There's no evidence that any recent US election at any level has been compromised, so why the need to make changes at all? Seems like the "conservative" approach.

GreekOrthodox said:

Make it two forms of ID, one with your picture, the other your Covid vaccine card.

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Instead of the picture ID, I'd go for an ACLU or NAACP membership card. I mean, like many other forms of ID they're available to anyone for a minimal cost or effort, and requiring people to have random ID cards makes elections more "secure", so there should be zero objection requiring all citizens to join one or the other group before voting.

KCfromNC said:

Instead of the picture ID, I'd go for an ACLU or NAACP membership card. I mean, like many other forms of ID they're available to anyone for a minimal cost or effort, and requiring people to have random ID cards makes elections more "secure", so there should be zero objection requiring all citizens to join one or the other group before voting.

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I just figure that the right-wing won't know if they should support it, since they want voter ID, or go against it, since they oppose vaccine passports. I'm hoping their heads explode with the liars paradox