Help My Unbelief!

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Yes, unbelief that leads to disobedience is called rebellion!
Belief/unbelief is not a light switch, and to be cutoff goes beyond unbelief.

Mark 9:
23
Jesus said to him, If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.
24 Immediately the father of the child cried out and said with tears, Lord, I believe;
help my unbelief!

All believers have points of struggle, such as Thomas with the resurrection.
All the apostles had their moments...

Matthew 17:
19
Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, Why could we not cast it out?
20 So Jesus said to them, Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you
have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, Move from here to there, and
it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.

21 However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.

Hebrews 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Out of context, this becomes a very generic and frightening statement about unbelief.
14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence
steadfast to the end,
15 while it is said:
Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.
16
For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt,
led by Moses?
17 Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned,
whose corpses fell in the wilderness?
18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest,
but to those who did not obey?

In the OT where cutoff is used, the context normally states 'rebelliousness against God
and His chosen leaders.
In the context of Romans 11, Paul is providing a very specific warning toward Gentiles
concerning becoming arrogant towards the Jews who had been cutoff because of their
unbelief. They rejected the Messiah and put Him to an open shame and had Him put to
death by crucifixion! Therefore He warned them merely days before "all the righteous
blood will be accounted for upon this generation"!

Romans 11:
19
You will say then, Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.
20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith.
Do not be haughty, but fear.
21
For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.
22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell,
severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise,
you also will be cutoff.

When Paul says "continue" in His Goodness, he uses [G1961=epimeno] a strengthened
form of [G3306-meno] meaning to abide, remain, continue with steadfast perseverance.
[G3306-meno] is used repeatedly by John in his Gospel and first epistle.

John 15:
4
Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in
the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit;
for without Me you can do nothing.

6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they
gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. [i.e. cut off]

7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it
shall be
done for you.
8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

Those who are cut off and cast into the fire attain salvation, only by fire.
1 Corinthians 3:
14
If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.
15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved,
yet so as through fire.
 
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[Mat 14:28-31 ESV]
And Peter answered him, "Lord, if it is you, command me to come to you on the water."

He said, "Come."

So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus.

But when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, "Lord, save me."

Jesus immediately reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying to him, "O you of little faith, why did you doubt?"



 
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Yes, unbelief that leads to disobedience is called rebellion!
Belief/unbelief is not a light switch, and to be cutoff goes beyond unbelief.

Mark 9:
23
Jesus said to him, If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.
24 Immediately the father of the child cried out and said with tears, Lord, I believe;
help my unbelief!

All believers have points of struggle, such as Thomas with the resurrection.
All the apostles had their moments...

Matthew 17:
19
Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, Why could we not cast it out?
20 So Jesus said to them, Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you
have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, Move from here to there, and
it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.

21 However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.

Hebrews 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Out of context, this becomes a very generic and frightening statement about unbelief.
14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence
steadfast to the end,
15 while it is said:
Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.
16
For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt,
led by Moses?
17 Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned,
whose corpses fell in the wilderness?
18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest,
but to those who did not obey?

In the OT where cutoff is used, the context normally states 'rebelliousness against God
and His chosen leaders.
In the context of Romans 11, Paul is providing a very specific warning toward Gentiles
concerning becoming arrogant towards the Jews who had been cutoff because of their
unbelief. They rejected the Messiah and put Him to an open shame and had Him put to
death by crucifixion! Therefore He warned them merely days before "all the righteous
blood will be accounted for upon this generation"!

Romans 11:
19
You will say then, Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.
20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith.
Do not be haughty, but fear.
21
For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.
22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell,
severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise,
you also will be cutoff.

When Paul says "continue" in His Goodness, he uses [G1961=epimeno] a strengthened
form of [G3306-meno] meaning to abide, remain, continue with steadfast perseverance.
[G3306-meno] is used repeatedly by John in his Gospel and first epistle.

John 15:
4
Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in
the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit;
for without Me you can do nothing.

6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. [i.e. cut off]
7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be
done for you.

8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

Those who are cut off and cast into the fire attain salvation, only by fire.
1 Corinthians 3:
14
If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.
15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved,
yet so as through fire.


Seems like replacement theology with works salvation and lordship salvation all combined into one big abomination
 
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Seems like replacement theology with works salvation and lordship salvation all combined into one big abomination
Sounds like the teachings of Jesus Christ, Paul, and the epistle to the Hebrews.
Abomination sounds like the school you attended.
 
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