Affluent parents, terrified of running afoul of the new orthodoxy in their children’s private school

Matt5 · Mar 21, 2021

The Miseducation of America’s Elites | City Journal

The dissidents [parents who send their kids to expensive private schools] use pseudonyms and turn off their videos when they meet for clandestine Zoom calls. They are usually coordinating soccer practices and carpools, but now they come together to strategize. They say that they could face profound repercussions if anyone knew they were talking.

But the situation of late has become too egregious for emails or complaining on conference calls. So one recent weekend, on a leafy street in West Los Angeles, they gathered in person and invited me to join.

In a backyard behind a four-bedroom home, ten people sat in a circle of plastic Adirondack chairs, eating bags of Skinny Pop. These are the rebels: well-off Los Angeles parents who send their children to Harvard-Westlake, the most prestigious private school in the city.

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For most parents, the demonization of capitalism is the least of it. They say that their children tell them they’re afraid to speak up in class. Most of all, they worry that the school’s new plan to become an “anti-racist institution”—unveiled this July, in a 20-page document—is making their kids fixate on race and attach importance to it in ways that strike them as grotesque.

We are headed toward a new dark age.

Matt5 · Mar 21, 2021

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SilverBear · Mar 22, 2021

so these parents want their kids to go to a racist school?

Nine of Spades · Mar 22, 2021

SilverBear said:
so these parents want their kids to go to a racist school?

No they don’t. They don’t want their kids brainwashed into believing the myth that white people are the source of all evil in the world. You already know that it’s possible to oppose racism without denigrating, shaming, and humiliating white people as if they’re the sole reason for black people’s problems instead of blacks themselves. Your post was therefore made in bad faith.

SilverBear · Mar 22, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
No they don’t. They don’t want their kids brainwashed into believing the myth that white people are the source of all evil in the world.

Has someone brainwashed them into believing that anyone is brainwashing kids into believing that white people are the source of all evil?

You already know that it’s possible to oppose racism without denigrating, shaming, and humiliating white people as if they’re the sole reason for black people’s problems instead of blacks themselves. Your post was therefore made in bad faith.

so black people are the sole reason for black people's problems?

Nine of Spades · Mar 22, 2021

SilverBear said:
Has someone brainwashed them into believing that anyone is brainwashing kids into believing that white people are the source of all evil?

so black people are the sole reason for black people's problems?

So you believe in shaming, denigrating, and humiliating white students because they are white?

SilverBear · Mar 22, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
So you believe in shaming, denigrating, and humiliating white students because they are white?

no, but then i haven't been brainwashed into thinking this is happening

Nine of Spades · Mar 22, 2021

SilverBear said:
no, but then i haven't been brainwashed into thinking this is happening

When I was in school, I remember very well all the diversity and anti-white propaganda that was pushed on us. We had to read “anti-racist” books that made white people look like monsters. I remember one time when we had to write a paper explaining why the Indians were the “real” writers and framers of the US Constitution and that the white Founding Fathers stole the ideas from them. In literature class they liked to make us read black and Hispanic writers and poets whose talents were very poor just to be “inclusive,” pushing aside white writers and poets whose talents were profound. This sort of propaganda was forced on us all the time, and I think the term brainwashing is an accurate way of describing it. What else would you call canceling white people and indoctrinating students with the myth that white people are evil? Do you have a better term?

SilverBear · Mar 22, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
When I was in school, I remember very well all the diversity and anti-white propaganda that was pushed on us. We had to read “anti-racist” books that made white people look like monsters.

what books?

I remember one time when we had to write a paper explaining why the Indians were the “real” writers and framers of the US Constitution and that the white Founding Fathers stole the ideas from them.

are you referring to the the Iroquois Confederacy and the influence it had on both the Federalist Papers and the Constitution?

In literature class they liked to make us read black and Hispanic writers and poets whose talents were very poor just to be “inclusive,” pushing aside white writers and poets whose talents were profound.

in your opinion

This sort of propaganda was forced on us all the time, and I think the term brainwashing is an accurate way of describing it. What else would you call canceling white people and indoctrinating students with the myth that white people are evil? Do you have a better term?

the idea it's being done at all is a good example of brainwashing

Nine of Spades · Mar 22, 2021

SilverBear said:
what books?

are you referring to the the Iroquois Confederacy and the influence it had on both the Federalist Papers and the Constitution?

in your opinion

the idea it's being done at all is a good example of brainwashing

Do you really think that posting short, single-sentence replies without backing up your views with arguments, links, and sources constitutes good debating? Either elaborate on your points or don’t bother arguing in the first place. It irritates me to debate someone who doesn't debate well.

SilverBear · Mar 22, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
Do you really think that posting short, single-sentence replies without backing up your views with arguments, links, and sources constitutes good debating? Either elaborate on your points or don’t bother arguing in the first place. It irritates me to debate someone who doesn't debate well.

Actually i posted 2 basic questions and an observation that the value of literature and poetry is considered subjective.
I didn't present arguments.
Part of debating well is recognizing what is a question and what is an argument.

Would you like me to repeat the questions?

Nine of Spades · Mar 22, 2021

SilverBear said:
Actually i posted 2 basic questions and an observation that the value of literature and poetry is considered subjective.
I didn't present arguments.
Part of debating well is recognizing what is a question and what is an argument.

Would you like me to repeat the questions?

The literature textbooks in school had poetry from black writers that didn’t rhyme and didn’t conform to proper poetic meter. Which is to say, it wasn’t real poetry in the first place. These bad writers were included in literature class because whoever wrote the textbooks thought there were too many white writers and not enough blacks. This isn’t merely a subjective “opinion,” but an accurate analysis of what I could see with my own eyes.

cow451 · Mar 23, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
When I was in school, I remember very well all the diversity and anti-white propaganda that was pushed on us. We had to read “anti-racist” books that made white people look like monsters. I remember one time when we had to write a paper explaining why the Indians were the “real” writers and framers of the US Constitution and that the white Founding Fathers stole the ideas from them. In literature class they liked to make us read black and Hispanic writers and poets whose talents were very poor just to be “inclusive,” pushing aside white writers and poets whose talents were profound. This sort of propaganda was forced on us all the time, and I think the term brainwashing is an accurate way of describing it. What else would you call canceling white people and indoctrinating students with the myth that white people are evil? Do you have a better term?

Showing my age, but I remember attending segregated schools and how OK it was to have "colored" facilities. If I were Black, I think I would still have a chip on my arthritic shoulder.

cow451 · Mar 23, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
The literature textbooks in school had poetry from black writers that didn’t rhyme and didn’t conform to proper poetic meter. Which is to say, it wasn’t real poetry in the first place. These bad writers were included in literature class because whoever wrote the textbooks thought there were too many white writers and not enough blacks. This isn’t merely a subjective “opinion,” but an accurate analysis of what I could see with my own eyes.

Please, name some of these inferior poets.

bèlla · Mar 23, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
The literature textbooks in school had poetry from black writers that didn’t rhyme and didn’t conform to proper poetic meter. Which is to say, it wasn’t real poetry in the first place. These bad writers were included in literature class because whoever wrote the textbooks thought there were too many white writers and not enough blacks. This isn’t merely a subjective “opinion,” but an accurate analysis of what I could see with my own eyes.

Do you have academic training or special credentials in poetry? Do you write for well-known publications and share your thoughts? Or is this a personal opinion?

In light of your remark, what poets exemplify the standard you’re referencing?

~bella

Arcangl86 · Mar 23, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
The literature textbooks in school had poetry from black writers that didn’t rhyme and didn’t conform to proper poetic meter. Which is to say, it wasn’t real poetry in the first place. These bad writers were included in literature class because whoever wrote the textbooks thought there were too many white writers and not enough blacks. This isn’t merely a subjective “opinion,” but an accurate analysis of what I could see with my own eyes.

Free verse is real poetry. Just because you don't value it doesn't mean it's not good poetry, because poetry is by it's very nature subjective.

ViaCrucis · Mar 23, 2021

Extreee extree read all about it, rich white people have their feelings hurt because a private school isn't coddling them.

Should I add this to my collection of rich people tears or white people tears? They make a good pick me up in the afternoon after the coffee has worn off.

-CryptoLutheran

SilverBear · Mar 23, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
The literature textbooks in school had poetry from black writers that didn’t rhyme and didn’t conform to proper poetic meter.

who says poetry needs to rhyme?

Which is to say, it wasn’t real poetry in the first place.

Alan GInzburg, WIlliam Carlos WIlliams, Robert Frost, Sylvia Plath, Elizabeth Bishop, E.E. Cummings. and a whole lot of other white poets didn't do much rhyming. I guess they weren't real poets.

These bad writers were included in literature class because whoever wrote the textbooks thought there were too many white writers and not enough blacks. This isn’t merely a subjective “opinion,” but an accurate analysis of what I could see with my own eyes.

you might want to look up what a subjective opinion is

ViaCrucis · Mar 23, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
Which is to say, it wasn’t real poetry in the first place.

Have you ever like, read the Psalms? The Song of Songs? Ecclesiastes? That's all poetry.

Have you perhaps ever heard of the Iliad or the Odyssey? Also poetry.

-CryptoLutheran

parousia70 · Mar 23, 2021

Nine of Spades said:
black writers that didn’t rhyme and didn’t conform to proper poetic meter..... writers and poets whose talents were very poor

Right. Real Patriots should only have to expose their white children to poetry from white writers of unparalleled talent, who are capable of producing muse of superior cadence and intellect such as:

Row Row Row your boat, gently down the stream.
Merrily merrily merrily merrily, life is but a dream.

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