Pope lays out the New World Order

public hermit · Mar 20, 2021

Aldebaran said:
Just keep in mind that the antichrist takes over in the name of peace and safety. Just as a counterfeit dollar bill isn't yellow and shaped like a triangle with your own picture on it, the counterfeit Christ will try to resemble everything you believe is good.

According to your rendering of apocalyptic passages. I'm not trying to be offensive, but that's how it comes across to me.

friend of · Mar 20, 2021

Victor in Christ said:
Many popes/preachers/rabbi's, etc have been false prophets. I do wonder why Rabbi's, Jews, popes, cardinals, etc wear a head covering when scripture tells a man of the cloth not to....

Okay. But I'm talking about the final one. Pope Francisko is clearly a NWO proponent.

Aldebaran · Mar 20, 2021

public hermit said:
According to your rendering of apocalyptic passages. I'm not trying to be offensive, but that's how it comes across to me.

Then could you explain to me why the world would accept a world leader and be willing to worship him if he came across as someone who was not there to do good? I mean, look at every politician running for office and how they try to get votes. They don't say they're going to do bad things. They always promise to do what people want them to do; things that sound good. Do you believe the antichrist would be accepted so willingly if he didn't do the same?

timothyu · Mar 20, 2021

royal priest said:
First, the government swoops in to 'save us' by bankrupting the system. Then, the WEF comes along to 'save us' with their new system with the 'Great Reset.'
Moreover, with their 2030 agenda right around the corner, this pandemic happened right when it was supposed to.

All btw at the recommendation of the WEF, each a part of Klaus Schwab's agenda.

public hermit · Mar 20, 2021

Aldebaran said:
Then could you explain to me why the world would accept a world leader and be willing to worship him if he came across as someone who was not there to do good? I mean, look at every politician running for office and how they try to get votes. They don't say they're going to do bad things. They always promise to do what people want them to do; things that sound good. Do you believe the antichrist would be accepted so willingly if he didn't do the same?

No, I agree with you. If someone were to take over the world, they would have to promise good things to the world. It doesn't follow that every attempt to get the world to work together for good necessarily comes from the Anti-Christ.

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that there was a world wide commission, and together they worked to get vaccine distributed without difference between nations. Would you interpret that to be the work of the Anti-Christ, or people working together for something very good?

Dave G. · Mar 20, 2021

Victor in Christ said:
that evil spirit was present when the Apostles were alive, its been growing and growing and will one day reach full maturity.

The only thing I'm compelled to say at this point in this thread is I seriously hope any practicing believer has themselves in right standing with God. And witness to anyone who will listen who doesn't know Jesus yet. Whether Jesus comes back or your life just ends it can come mighty quickly, in an instant. And there is no warning sign as to when the restrainer is removed either. Amen

Preterists and partial preterist just to mention a couple doctrines of Christianity have no clue what you're talking about, they aren't taught that way. None the less even they can prepare themselves to be in right standing and should.

timothyu · Mar 20, 2021

Aldebaran said:
See, I got my mark. No big deal. It didn't even hurt.", people will line up like sheep to get theirs as well.

Yeah, most people are connected at the head or wrist to their smart phones. The latest tech in shepherding the adversarial flock.

timothyu · Mar 20, 2021

Freth said:
I would be skeptical of any religious power that seeks to bring together a world order.

Didn't seem to bother people in Constantine's time.. two opposing cultures becoming of one mind. (spoiler alert - it wasn't God's mind)

timothyu · Mar 20, 2021

public hermit said:
It doesn't follow that every attempt to get the world to work together for good necessarily comes from the Anti-Christ.

AC is simply any system that runs contrary to the will of God. And I have never seen many in this world that have run any other way. What makes the end of days different, is like Babel, the world is united in one cause. Right now you have over 170 nations and most corporations that control those nations all onboard.

Aldebaran · Mar 20, 2021

public hermit said:
No, I agree with you. If someone were to take over the world, they would have to promise good things to the world. It doesn't follow that every attempt to get the world to work together for good necessarily comes from the Anti-Christ.

You're right, but that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that the system of one world government is the stage for the antichrist, and there are many people (many of which are the richest people in the world with the influence to make it happen) who want it and are using every opportunity to make it happen.

public hermit said:
Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that there was a world wide commission, and together they worked to get vaccine distributed without difference between nations. Would you interpret that to be the work of the Anti-Christ, or people working together for something very good?

That would be for good. But what I'm talking about isn't vaccine, but rather a one-world government that necessitates the United States giving up it's own sovereignty. I'm talking about a one world monetary system that eliminates cash and the ability for people to keep their finances private, and allows a central figure to determine who gets to participate and who doesn't.
A single entity should not have all the power to decide everything unless that entity is God Himself. However, we know from scripture that before God is that one world ruler, there will be another one first, and that one will be under the power of the devil. Personally, I don't want to encourage that.

anna ~ grace · Mar 20, 2021

reddogs said:
This is ominous but we expected as much..

"ROME — Pope Francis insists in a new book things will never be the same in a post-pandemic world, calling instead for the establishment of a “new world order.”

In a book-length interview with journalist Domenico Agasso titled God and the World to Come, scheduled for release in Italian on Tuesday, the pontiff reiterates his case for the Great Reset with a shift away from financial speculation, fossil fuels, and military build-up toward a green economy based on inclusiveness.

After the coronavirus pandemic, “no one today can afford to rest easy,” the pope declares in a lengthy extract from the book published by Vatican News. “The world will never be the same again. But it is precisely within this calamity that we must grasp those signs which may prove to be the cornerstones of reconstruction.”

Pope Francis Calls for ‘New World Order’ After the Pandemic

I have got to wonder, are Seventh Day Adventists as worried about the Bishops / Patriarchs of Alexandria, Moscow, Constantinople, Erbil, Damascus, or Vagharshapat? Or is it just Rome?

Freth · Mar 20, 2021

Gracia Singh said:
I have got to wonder, are Seventh Day Adventists as worried about the Bishops / Patriarchs of Alexandria, Moscow, Constantinople, Erbil, Damascus, or Vagharshapat? Or is it just Rome?

It's not individual people, it's principalities and powers. There are more people than just the pope behind this push for a new world order.

Freth · Mar 20, 2021

Aldebaran said:
A single entity should not have all the power to decide everything unless that entity is God Himself. However, we know from scripture that before God is that one world ruler, there will be another one first, and that one will be under the power of the devil. Personally, I don't want to encourage that.

We won't have a choice. The way they seized power in 2020 with the virus, it would be so easy for them (the powers that be) to bring forth this order they've been hankering for, for so long.

anna ~ grace · Mar 20, 2021

Freth said:
It's not individual people, it's principalities and powers. There are more people than just the pope behind this push for a new world order.

It just seems to me that SDA theology is obsessed with the Papacy. But there are Apostolic Sees and Patriarchs not in union with Rome, who also head Churches which believe and do many things the SDA would likely find awful.

But again, no mention of them.

Aldebaran · Mar 20, 2021

Freth said:
We won't have a choice. The way they seized power in 2020 with the virus, it would be so easy for them (the powers that be) to bring forth this order they've been hankering for, for so long.

I know, and I see it coming at us now more quickly than ever. What really bothers me is that we have Christians actually being in favor of it. Maybe it's because the Pope is in favor of it, but that just confirms what I've always suspected about him and the RCC.

NomNomPizza · Mar 20, 2021

Victor in Christ said:
Many popes/preachers/rabbi's, etc have been false prophets. I do wonder why Rabbi's, Jews, popes, cardinals, etc wear a head covering when scripture tells a man of the cloth not to....

1 Corinthians 11:4

It's because they don't read Scriptures themselves , stuck in endless loop of maybe few of these probably mostly 4 gospels

anna ~ grace · Mar 20, 2021

Aldebaran said:
I know, and I see it coming at us now more quickly than ever. What really bothers me is that we have Christians actually being in favor of it. Maybe it's because the Pope is in favor of it, but that just confirms what I've always suspected about him and the RCC.

Apostasy is all over the place.

I have heard that the Southern Baptists are facing an internal struggle over whether or not to approve female pastors and that kind of broke my heart. The Pope is definitely more public, the Papacy is more disliked and less well understood and yes, this Pope has done and said some weird and difficult things. We’re praying for him.

But the slow crumble into liberalism and permissiveness began with Protestantism, and is infecting the entire Christian world. Those individuals and denominations within Protestantism who hold out will be the brave, tough ones. I see all of this as a trend. Not something originating with the Catholic Church, but something that all Christians are going to have to face. The suicide march is coming from within.

Freth · Mar 20, 2021

Gracia Singh said:
It just seems to me that SDA theology is obsessed with the Papacy. But there are Apostolic Sees and Patriarchs not in union with Rome, who also head Churches which believe and do many things the SDA would likely find awful.

But again, no mention of them.

As I stated a bit ago, it was the Reformers that saw the end time prophecies that pointed to the papacy (note, not a single individual), it wasn't SDA. The church system as a whole is what it points to.

For instance, Daniel 7:25 is pointing to the 1260 years of Christian persecution by the papacy. The fourth beast (Rome) is called a kingdom in Daniel 7:23. This is the beast out of which the little horn (papacy) arises. The little horn isn't a man, but it's depicted as a man ("he"; a figurehead).

There are two beasts (kingdoms/powers) in Revelation. The other beast points to the United States. So it's not just the papacy.

Ephesians 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

Landon Caeli · Mar 20, 2021

Victor in Christ said:
Many popes/preachers/rabbi's, etc have been false prophets. I do wonder why Rabbi's, Jews, popes, cardinals, etc wear a head covering when scripture tells a man of the cloth not to....

1 Corinthians 11:4

They take it off at the appropriate times.

Freth · Mar 20, 2021

Aldebaran said:
I know, and I see it coming at us now more quickly than ever. What really bothers me is that we have Christians actually being in favor of it. Maybe it's because the Pope is in favor of it, but that just confirms what I've always suspected about him and the RCC.

Have you seen the 2014 Kenneth Copeland Ministries conference video? Here's the pope's recorded message. The scariest one though was this excerpt of Tony Palmer's speech.

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