Jesus was crucified on Thursday

Davy · Mar 19, 2021

saint2 said:
So Jesus was in the grave for four sunsets (i.e. sunset Wednesday, sunset Thursday, sunset Friday, and sunset Saturday) ? IMO that seems to come close to four days in the grave, not three.

Ya know, there's an old riddle about three guys that go into a hotel to rent a room, and the room cost $30. They each pay $10, and then go up to their room. The guy at the desk then realizes his mistake, that the room costs $25, not $30. So he gives the bellhop five one dollar bills, and tells him to go up to their room and give that back to them.

The bellhop is thinking, how is he going to give back five one dollar bills to the three guys? He finally decides to give each guy one dollar back, and the bellhop keeps the other two dollars.

Thus the three guys that rented the room paid $9 each. And three times $9 equals $27, plus the $2 the bellhop kept equals a total of $29. So where did the other dollar go?

In the above riddle, there really is no missing dollar. They each wound up paying $9.33. But based on how one counts, it can 'seem' like there's a missing dollar. Same thing applies to how you're trying to count the number of sunsets as days.

Petros2015 · Mar 19, 2021

Davy said:
Thus the three guys that rented the room paid $9 each. And three times $9 equals $27, plus the $2 the bellhop kept equals a total of $29. So where did the other dollar go?

Took me a while. three times $9 = $27 minus the $2 the bellhop kept is a total of $25 which is what the innkeeper is left with.

Davy said:
In the above riddle, there really is no missing dollar. They each wound up paying $9.33.

No, they each paid $10 and each got $1 back. So they each paid $9. If they had each just forked out $25 in the first place it would have been $8.33 apiece. The $0.66 extra they each wind up paying makes up the bellhop's $2.00

The bellhop was born on either a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday, but not on the same day as the manager or any of the 3 other guys who were born on Monday, Wednesday and Sunday respectively. I myself wasn't born yesterday

Davy · Mar 20, 2021

Petros2015 said:
Took me a while. three times $9 = $27 minus the $2 the bellhop kept is a total of $25 which is what the innkeeper is left with.

No, they each paid $10 and each got $1 back. So they each paid $9. If they had each just forked out $25 in the first place it would have been $8.33 apiece. The $0.66 extra they each wind up paying makes up the bellhop's $2.00

The bellhop was born on either a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday, but not on the same day as the manager or any of the 3 other guys who were born on Monday, Wednesday and Sunday respectively. I myself wasn't born yesterday

Neither the three men nor the innkeeper got the $2 back which the bellhop kept though. So the three guys paid $9.33 each. And Born Yesterday with Judy Holiday and William Holden was a good movie!

Der Alte · Mar 20, 2021

Anyone want to discuss the topic of this thread?

Bobgf · Mar 20, 2021

Der Alte said:
Anyone want to discuss the topic of this thread?

Well in short;
I ASSUMED that Jesus' Triumphant entry into Jerusalem was on a Sunday, which today we call Palm Sunday.

Jesus was God's Passover sacrificial lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7).
The Mosaic Law (Exodus 12:3) require the Jews to select the Passover lamb on the 10th day of first month (here I ASSUMED that selection to be that Sunday when Jesus entered Jerusalem Triumphantly).

Then this Passover lamb must be slaughtered, four days later, on the 14th day of the month (Exodus 12:6). (Thursday, based upon two assumptions above)

Then 15th day (Friday) is a no work day (Leviticus 23:7), as was the following day, the weekly (Saturday) Sabbath.

I corroborated this Thursday crucifixion by sequencing through the Gospel of Mark, which I diagramed in the OP.

Petros2015 · Mar 20, 2021

Davy said:
So the three guys paid $9.33 each.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on that one - have a good day though

GraceBro · Mar 20, 2021

saint2 said:
Passover Week according to the Gospel of Mark.
Mark's chronology shows that Jesus was crucified on a Thursday and not on Friday as generally believed.
Bible Gateway passage: Mark 11-16 - New King James Version

The sabbath immediately following Jesus' burial was a two day sabbath, not just one day as generally believed.
This is because Leviticus 23:5-7 made the day following Passover an Unleavened Bread Festival Sabbath.
This Unleavened Bread sabbath festival calls for a sacred assembly. The people were to do no regular work that day.
The Gospel of John (John 19:31) called this special sabbath day a high day (megas G3173).

The year Jesus died, this Unleavened Bread sabbath day was immediately followed by the the regular Saturday seventh day sabbath.
So these two back-to-back sabbaths created one long two day sabbath that year.

Leviticus 23:5-7 states:
5 The Lord's Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month.
6 On the fifteenth day of that month the Lord's Festival of Unleavened Bread begins;
for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast.
7 On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.

Just as our day runs from one midnight to the next midnight, the Jewish day runs from one sunset to the next sunset.
Below, I've split our day into two parts: the "before sunset" part of our day, and the "after sunset" part of our day.
This procedure aligns the "after sunset" part of our day with the start of a new Jewish day which begins at sunset.

The following chronology shows some of the major events that happened each day of that Passover Week, along with the related verses in the Gospel of Mark.
This chronology uses the Gospel of Mark, chapters 11 through 16, to show the Passover week's events.
Mark's verses are parsed in sequence, and the events happening each day of Passover week are highlighted.
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----------------------------------------------- Sunday -------------------------------------------------------
Palm Sunday Before Sunset
Jesus enters Jerusalem triumphantly and enters the temple courts and looks around at everything (Mark 11:1-11)

Palm Sunday After Sunset
Jesus and the twelve spend the night in Bethany (Mark 11:11)

----------------------------------------------- Monday -------------------------------------------------------
Monday Before Sunset
On the way back to Jerusalem, Jesus curses the fig tree without fruit (Mark 11:12-14)
Jesus drives merchants from the temple courts (Mark 11:15-17)
Jesus spends the day teaching in the temple courts (Mark 11:18)

Monday After Sunset
Jesus and his disciples leave Jerusalem (Mark 11:19)

-------------------------------------------------- Tuesday ---------------------------------------------------
Tuesday Before Sunset
The cursed fig tree has withered away to its roots (Mark 11:20-23)
In the temple courts, Jesus confronts the chief priests, scribes and elders (Mark 11-27-33)
Again, Jesus teaches in the temple courts but he teaches in Parables (Mark 12:1-44)

Tuesday After Sunset
On the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Jesus foretells end time prophecies (Mark 13:1-37)
It's Two days before Passover and the Unleavened Bread festival (Mark 14:1)
This is Tuesday after sunset, the Unleavened Bread festival is two days later on Thursday after sunset
The chief priests and scribes look for a way to arrest Jesus by stealth and kill him.(Mark 14:1-2)

-------------------------------------------------- Wednesday -------------------------------------------------
Wednesday Before Sunset
In Bethany, Jesus has dinner with Simon the Leper.
There, a woman anoints Jesus with ointment in preparation for his burial (Mark 14:3-9)
Judas goes to the chief priests in order to betray Jesus to them. (Mark 14:10-11)
Two disciples are sent to Jerusalem to prepare a place and prepare the Passover meal (Mark 14:12-16)

Wednesday After Sunset (Passover Begins)
The Lord's Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month (Leviticus 23:5)
Jesus eats the Passover meal with his disciples (Mark 14:17-25)
Jesus and disciples go to Mount Olives to a place called Gethsemane where Jesus prays to his Father (Mark 14:26-42)
Judas arrives with a mob and chief priests, scribes and elders. They take Jesus captive and begin his torture (Mark 14:43-52)
Jesus goes before Jewish Council where they condemn him as deserving death(Mark 14:53-65)

------------------------------------------------ Thursday ----------------------------------------------------
Thursday Before Sunset
In the morning, the Jewish Council hand Jesus over to Pilate. Pilate hands him over to be crucified (Mark 15:1-15)
The soldiers torture him, crown him with thorns, and mock him saluting him as "King of the Jews!" (Mark 15:16-20)
They crucify Jesus at 9 AM Thursday and he dies six hours later at 3 PM (Mark 15:21-39)
it was the day of Preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath (Mark 15:42)
Joseph of Arimathea, buries Jesus in a tomb before sunset (Mark 15:43-47)

Thursday After Sunset (Unleavened Bread Festival sabbath begins)
A special Unleavened Bread sabbath day festival begins now at sunset (Leviticus 23:5-7)
Jesus now lies dead in the tomb for the first of three nights.

---------------------------------------------- Friday --------------------------------------------------------
Friday Before Sunset
The special Unleavened Bread sabbath festival remains in effect until sunset.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb

Friday After Sunset (Regular seventh day sabbath begins)
At sunset, the Unleavened Bread sabbath festival ends and the regular seventh day sabbath begins.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb for the second of three nights.

----------------------------------------------- Saturday -----------------------------------------------------
Saturday Before Sunset
The regular Saturday seventh day sabbath remains in effect until sunset.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb.

Saturday After Sunset
The two back to back sabbaths;
--- the special high Unleavened Bread sabbath and the regular Saturday seventh day sabbath, now end.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb for the third night.

------------------------------------------------- Sunday -----------------------------------------------------
Easter Sunday
The sabbaths over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bring spices, so that they might anoint Jesus.
And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun has risen, they go to the tomb. (Mark 16:1-2)
Jesus has already risen from the dead and has left the tomb (Mark 16:6)

Jesus began Passover day (i.e. sunset Wednesday till sunset Thursday) with the Last Supper.
At the end of that day he will lie dead in the tomb for three nights - Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
Jesus was tortured for about eighteen hours on the day of Passover.
First nine hours by the Jews (circa 9 PM Wednesday to 6 AM Thursday)
Then nine hours by the Romans (circa 6 AM Thursday to 3 PM Thursday)

Matthew 12:40
For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster,
so for three days and three nights the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth.

This prophecy of Matthew 12:40 was fulfilled by Jesus during this Passover Week.
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There is no way in the world we can get three days and three nights out of Jesus dying on a Friday. It was on a Thursday.
Living God Ministries - The Three Days and Nights

Der Alte · Mar 20, 2021

saint2 said:
Well in short;
I ASSUMED that Jesus' Triumphant entry into Jerusalem was on a Sunday, which today we call Palm Sunday.
Jesus was God's Passover sacrificial lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7).
The Mosaic Law (Exodus 12:3) require the Jews to select the Passover lamb on the 10th day of first month (here I ASSUMED that selection to be that Sunday when Jesus entered Jerusalem Triumphantly).
Then this Passover lamb must be slaughtered, four days later, on the 14th day of the month (Exodus 12:6). (Thursday, based upon two assumptions above)
Then 15th day (Friday) is a no work day (Leviticus 23:7), as was the following day, the weekly (Saturday) Sabbath.
I corroborated this Thursday crucifixion by sequencing through the Gospel of Mark, which I diagramed in the OP.

All four gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on parasceue, which means "preparation" "Parasceue" was, at the time of Jesus, and is at this time the name of the day we call "Friday."
.....The feast of unleavened bread [ULB] is never called a Sabbath in the Bible. In the NT that was a high Sabbath because ULB fell on the weekly Sabbath.
.....The weekly Sabbath requires a preparation day since no cooking is permitted on the Sabbath. An annual Sabbath requires no day of preparation since cooking is permitted. There was only one day of preparation in passion week. Friday the day before Jesus was crucified.

Exodus 12:15-16
15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; howbeit the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses; for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
16 And in the first day there shall be to you a holy convocation, and in the seventh day a holy convocation; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done by you.

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Justin [A.D. 110-165.] The First. Chap. LXVII.
And on the day called Sunday,76 all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability,77 and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given,78 and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He [Jesus] was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.

Der Alte · Mar 20, 2021

GraceBro said:
There is no way in the world we can get three days and three nights out of Jesus dying on a Friday. It was on a Thursday.
Living God Ministries - The Three Days and Nights

On seventeen separate occasions, Jesus or His friends spoke of the timetable involving His death and resurrection.

Ten times it was specified that the resurrection would take place on the "third day" (Mat.16:21; 17:23; 20:19; Mark 9:31; 10:34, Luke 9:22; 13:32; 18:33; 24:7,46).
On five occasions they said, "in three days" (Matthew 26:61; 27:40, Mark 15:29, John 2:19-20).
Twice they used the phrase, "after three days" (Matthew 27:63, Mark 8:31).
And one time only Jesus spoke of His death as "three days and three nights" (Matthew 12:40).

Without question, all of these various expressions are used to describe the very same event. There seems to be no controversy regarding this point. "The third day," "in three days," "after three days," and "three days and three nights" are equivalent terms used in the scripture in reference to the resurrection of Jesus.
Expressions Cannot Be Literal
Now we ask the question: Can all of these expressions be taken in a strictly literal sense and still harmonize with each other? Absolutely not!
For example, "after three days" would certainly have to be interpreted as longer than seventy-two hours.
"In three days" could mean anytime less than seventy-two hours, and "three days and three nights" could only mean exactly seventy-two hours to the second.
And "the third day" presents even greater problems as we shall notice in a moment.
Does this sound terribly confusing? If so, it is only because men have placed their own interpretation upon the meaning of God's Word. We must let the scripture explain itself, and especially, we must let Christ provide definitions for the words which He spoke. It would be a mammoth mistake to seize upon any one of the expressions used and force its strict compliance with our interpretation without reference to the other sixteen texts on the subject.
Inclusive Reckoning
The only way we can harmonize all of these apparently contradictory statements of Jesus is to understand them in the light of inclusive reckoning of time. This was the method used throughout the scripture in computing time, and we must apply the same method now, unless we want mass confusion. The unreasonable insistence upon the use of twentieth century English idioms of speech to interpret first century Greek or Hebrew has led to some extreme views indeed. Jesus and His friends spoke and wrote in harmony with the common literacy usage of the day, and that usage recognized inclusive reckoning of time. In simple language, this means that any part of a day was counted as a whole day.
Before we turn to the scripture for confirmation of this principle, let us read the authoritative statement of the Jewish Encyclopedia on the matter.
"A short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though, of the first day only a few minutes after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day." Jewish Encyclopedia, Volume 4, page 475.
How clearly this defines the Hebrew method of computing time. Any small part of a day was reckoned as the entire twenty-four hour period. It is the Hebrew form of speech and language. Scores of contradictions would appear in both Old and New Testament if this principle were ignored. We must compare Scripture with Scripture and use the idiom of the language in which the scripture was written. Inclusive reckoning was taken for granted by all writers of the Scripture.

Read complete lengthy 11 page article discussing all the various arguments.
Three Days and Three Nights

GraceBro · Mar 20, 2021

Der Alte said:
On seventeen separate occasions, Jesus or His friends spoke of the timetable involving His death and resurrection.

Ten times it was specified that the resurrection would take place on the "third day" (Mat.16:21; 17:23; 20:19; Mark 9:31; 10:34, Luke 9:22; 13:32; 18:33; 24:7,46).

On five occasions they said, "in three days" (Matthew 26:61; 27:40, Mark 15:29, John 2:19-20).

Twice they used the phrase, "after three days" (Matthew 27:63, Mark 8:31).

And one time only Jesus spoke of His death as "three days and three nights" (Matthew 12:40).

Without question, all of these various expressions are used to describe the very same event. There seems to be no controversy regarding this point. "The third day," "in three days," "after three days," and "three days and three nights" are equivalent terms used in the scripture in reference to the resurrection of Jesus.
Expressions Cannot Be Literal
Now we ask the question: Can all of these expressions be taken in a strictly literal sense and still harmonize with each other? Absolutely not!
For example, "after three days" would certainly have to be interpreted as longer than seventy-two hours.
"In three days" could mean anytime less than seventy-two hours, and "three days and three nights" could only mean exactly seventy-two hours to the second.
And "the third day" presents even greater problems as we shall notice in a moment.
Does this sound terribly confusing? If so, it is only because men have placed their own interpretation upon the meaning of God's Word. We must let the scripture explain itself, and especially, we must let Christ provide definitions for the words which He spoke. It would be a mammoth mistake to seize upon any one of the expressions used and force its strict compliance with our interpretation without reference to the other sixteen texts on the subject.
Inclusive Reckoning
The only way we can harmonize all of these apparently contradictory statements of Jesus is to understand them in the light of inclusive reckoning of time. This was the method used throughout the scripture in computing time, and we must apply the same method now, unless we want mass confusion. The unreasonable insistence upon the use of twentieth century English idioms of speech to interpret first century Greek or Hebrew has led to some extreme views indeed. Jesus and His friends spoke and wrote in harmony with the common literacy usage of the day, and that usage recognized inclusive reckoning of time. In simple language, this means that any part of a day was counted as a whole day.
Before we turn to the scripture for confirmation of this principle, let us read the authoritative statement of the Jewish Encyclopedia on the matter.
"A short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though, of the first day only a few minutes after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day." Jewish Encyclopedia, Volume 4, page 475.
How clearly this defines the Hebrew method of computing time. Any small part of a day was reckoned as the entire twenty-four hour period. It is the Hebrew form of speech and language. Scores of contradictions would appear in both Old and New Testament if this principle were ignored. We must compare Scripture with Scripture and use the idiom of the language in which the scripture was written. Inclusive reckoning was taken for granted by all writers of the Scripture.

Read complete lengthy 11 page article discussing all the various arguments.
Three Days and Three Nights

Sorry, I don't agree. But I am not going to get into a lengthy back and forth over a topic that is settled in my mind. Everybody has their supposed well-thought-out arguments. I referenced 2 hours of teaching by a former rabbinical student turned Christian on the subject supporting a Thursday crucifixion. You have an 11-page article supporting your viewpoint. And, of course, God has His opinion which matters most. He will teach us if our hearts are ready. It's better to agree to disagree. Grace and Peace.

Der Alte · Mar 20, 2021

GraceBro said:
Sorry, I don't agree. But I am not going to get into a lengthy back and forth over a topic that is settled in my mind. Everybody has their supposed well-thought-out arguments. I referenced 2 hours of teaching by a former rabbinical student turned Christian on the subject supporting a Thursday crucifixion. You have an 11-page article supporting your viewpoint. And, of course, God has His opinion which matters most. He will teach us if our hearts are ready. It's better to agree to disagree. Grace and Peace.

Does the 2 hours of teaching which you attended say anything about how many Sabbaths and/or Preparation days occurred in passion week?
As I have shown there was only one Sabbath in passion week, the weekly "Saturday" Sabbath.
There was only one parasceue/preparation day in passion week the Friday before the weekly Sabbath.
The only early church father who mentions the crucifixion says it was on the day before Saturday.
All 4 gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on parasceue/preparation day.

prodromos · Mar 22, 2021

How did the Pharisees interpret "3 days and 3 nights"? After all they were the people Jesus was speaking to when He gave them this prophecy?

Matthew 27:62-64

Next day, that is, after the day of Preparation, the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered before Pilate and said, “Sir, we remember how that imposter said, while he was still alive, ‘After three days I will rise again.’ Therefore order the sepulchre to be made secure until the third day, lest his disciples go and steal him away, and tell the people, ‘He has risen from the dead,’ and the last fraud will be worse than the first.”

Clearly they did not interpret Jesus' words as literal 3 periods of daylight and 3 periods of dark, but rather exactly as Jesus had repeatedly told His disciples, that He would rise on the 3rd day.
They also demonstrate that "after 3 days" and "on the 3rd day" are equivalent statements, which is due to inclusive counting.

Bobgf · Mar 22, 2021

prodromos said:
How did the Pharisees interpret "3 days and 3 nights"? After all they were the people Jesus was speaking to when He gave them this prophecy?

Matthew 27:62-64

Next day, that is, after the day of Preparation, the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered before Pilate and said, “Sir, we remember how that imposter said, while he was still alive, ‘After three days I will rise again.’ Therefore order the sepulchre to be made secure until the third day, lest his disciples go and steal him away, and tell the people, ‘He has risen from the dead,’ and the last fraud will be worse than the first.”

Clearly they did not interpret Jesus' words as literal 3 periods of daylight and 3 periods of dark, but rather exactly as Jesus had repeatedly told His disciples, that He would rise on the 3rd day.
They also demonstrate that "after 3 days" and "on the 3rd day" are equivalent statements, which is due to inclusive counting.

Matthew 16:21
From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day.

Matthew 17:23
and they will kill Him, and the third day He will be raised up.” And they were exceedingly sorrowful.

Matthew 20:19
and deliver Him to the Gentiles to mock and to scourge and to crucify. And the third day He will rise again.”

Matthew 27:64
Therefore command that the tomb be made secure until the third day, lest His disciples come by night and steal Him away, and say to the people, ‘He has risen from the dead.’ So the last deception will be worse than the first.”

Mark 9:31
For He taught His disciples and said to them, “The Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of men, and they will kill Him. And after He is killed, He will rise the third day.”

Mark 10:34
and they will mock Him, and scourge Him, and spit on Him, and kill Him. And the third day He will rise again.”

Luke 9:22
saying, “The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day.”

Luke 13:32
And He said to them, “Go, tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.’

Luke 18:33
They will scourge Him and kill Him. And the third day He will rise again.”

Luke 24:7
saying, ‘The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.’ ”

Luke 24:21
But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, today is the third day since these things happened.

Luke 24:46
Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day,

Acts 10:40
Him God raised up on the third day, and showed Him openly,

1 Corinthians 15:4
and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,

Crucified Thursday: rose on third day - Sunday (I think?)

Der Alte · Mar 22, 2021

saint2 said:
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Crucified Thursday: rose on third day - Sunday (I think?)

Incorrect. See my [Link-post # 28], above. Also see my post # 29 and 31.
All four gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on Parasceue, which means preparation. At the time of Jesus to the present day the Greek name for the day we call Friday, is Parasceue.
There was only one Sabbath in passion week, the weekly Saturday Sabbath.
There was only one Parasceue in passion week, the Friday before the weekly Sabbath.
The first and seventh day of unleavened bread are called a holy convocation, never a Sabbath.
There is no day of preparation for ULB.
Preparing and cooking food was specifically permitted on 1 and 7 ULB. Exodus 12:15-16

prodromos · Mar 22, 2021

Der Alte said:
Incorrect. See my [Link-post # 28], above. Also see my post # 29 and 31.
All four gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on Parasceue, which means preparation. At the time of Jesus to the present day the Greek name for the day we call Friday, is Parasceue.
There was only one Sabbath in passion week, the weekly Saturday Sabbath.
There was only one Parasceue in passion week, the Friday before the weekly Sabbath.
The first and seventh day of unleavened bread are called a holy convocation, never a Sabbath.
There is no day of preparation for ULB.
Preparing and cooking food was specifically permitted on 1 and 7 ULB. Exodus 12:15-16

QFT!

prodromos · Mar 22, 2021

saint2 said:
Crucified Thursday: rose on third day - Sunday (I think?)

That would have Jesus rise on the 4th day, contrary to all the Scriptures you quoted.

Bobgf · Mar 22, 2021

Der Alte said:
Incorrect. See my [Link-post # 28], above. Also see my post # 29 and 31.
All four gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on Parasceue, which means preparation. At the time of Jesus to the present day the Greek name for the day we call Friday, is Parasceue.
There was only one Sabbath in passion week, the weekly Saturday Sabbath.
There was only one Parasceue in passion week, the Friday before the weekly Sabbath.
The first and seventh day of unleavened bread are called a holy convocation, never a Sabbath.
There is no day of preparation for ULB.
Preparing and cooking food was specifically permitted on 1 and 7 ULB. Exodus 12:15-16

Der Alte
If, as you say, all four Gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on a Preparation Day.
And, there's only a Preparation day preceding the weekly Sabbath
And, there is no Preparation Day for the Unleavened Bread Festival (15 day of first month)
Then, I think you have a solid argument for a Friday Crucifixion.

Der Alte · Mar 22, 2021

prodromos said:
QFT!

TY Had to look that up wasn't sure that was a positive or negative response.

Der Alte · Mar 22, 2021

saint2 said:
Der Alte
If, as you say, all four Gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on a Preparation Day.
And, there's only a Preparation day preceding the weekly Sabbath
And, there is no Preparation Day for the Unleavened Bread Festival (15 day of first month)
Then, I think you have a solid argument for a Friday Crucifixion.

Reposting my post #4 this thread
All four gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on parasceue, which means "preparation" "Parasceue" was, at the time of Jesus, and at this time, is the name of the day we call "Friday."
The feast of unleavened bread is never called a Sabbath in the Bible. In the NT that was a high Sabbath because ULB fell on the weekly Sabbath.
The weekly Sabbath requires a preparation day since no cooking is permitted on the Sabbath.
An annual Sabbath requires no day of preparation since cooking is specifically permitted. There was only one day of preparation in passion week. Friday the day before Jesus was crucified.

Exodus 12:15-16
15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; howbeit the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses; for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
16 And in the first day there shall be to you a holy convocation, and in the seventh day a holy convocation; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done by you.

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Justin [A.D. 110-165.] The First. Chap. LXVII.
And on the day called Sunday,76 all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability,77 and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given,78 and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He [Jesus] was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.

Bobgf · Mar 22, 2021

Der Alte said:
There was only one day of preparation in passion week. Friday the day before Jesus was crucified.

You do mean, "Friday the day Jesus was crucified", don't you?

Jesus was crucified on Thursday

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