Does anyone have any hope of changing peoples minds about Trump?

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What is so bad about having different opinions? If someone has different values than you or thinks differently about a subject it does not mean that he is wrong and you are right, nor the other way around.
How can it be so difficult to accept that not everyone agrees with you...
 
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Trump supporters find me tedious but I have not given up hope I am just trying to work out how to get a conversation started.
Do they have a chance of charging your mind? If not, why would you assume you will change theirs?
 
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Many of President Trump's supporters identify with him in a personal way, just like they do with their favorite actor or actress. Some refer to this emotional attachment that we have to our favorite actor or actress as celebrity worship syndrome. While that phrase is a bit of an exaggeration, there is some truth to it, especially to the millions of women who were crazy in love with Elvis. How much this attachment to Trump compares to celebrity worship syndrome is uncertain, but some have made the comparison.
 
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I don't have hope of changing people's minds nor do I try. However, I have seen minds changed, but I suspect it was usually done as a progressive process of evaluation over time. The people I know who changed, changed their own minds.
 
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Trump supporters find me tedious but I have not given up hope I am just trying to work out how to get a conversation started.
It's pride that tells us that we must be right and that we have to convince everyone of the same thing. When it comes to spiritual issues, yes, truth is truth. The "everyone is entitled to my opinion" attitude is not helpful, even if your opinion happens to be correct. Opinions are not doctrine.

Some Trump supporters see only the good things that he achieved and ignore the rest. It's like a doughnut. You can focus on the doughnut or complain about the hole. Mr Trump was elected because the alternatives were too awful to contemplate. Now he's out of office. You think that nearly half the voting population of the USA is wrong. You are entitled to believe that. Just don't be surprised if not everyone agrees with you.
 
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I don't have hope of changing people's minds nor do I try. However, I have seen minds changed, but I suspect it was usually done as a progressive process of evaluation over time.

I had a former colleague who was a rabid Trump supporter. She is a very bright woman, Phi Beta Kappa. She moved away so I remained connected with her only through social media. It was interesting to see how her pro-Trump posts began to dwindle over time and then disappear. Her husband's job sent them to Europe for two years. I always wondered if seeing how Americans and Trump were viewed internationally had any bearing on her change of attitude. She is back in the U.S. now, but her posts and her page have been scrubbed of anything Trump.
I wonder how Joe Biden will be viewed in four years time.

A man will not MAGA. That was the false hope that too many Christians latched onto. It is God who makes nations great. So-called Christian nations are judged more severely because they have received more light.

I don't believe that anything can restore America's status or reputation. Leftist policies are now entrenched and the sensible middle ground has been labelled extremist right. Vlad Putin must be in hysterics. America is becoming like China and Russia, even though Mr Trump was supposedly Mr Putin's buddy. No, the Democrats are far more likely to make America an authoritarian, leftist society. And God permits this as a wake up call to the church. Judgement begins in the house of God.
 
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What is so bad about having different opinions? .

Why do people think that all people have a problem with Trump have a problem with a diversity of opinions? I don't have a problem with diversity of opinions for something like a taxation I would argue a dialog between the people with different beliefs and inclinations is a best way to maximize societies happiness. People that complain the taxes are to high and the government is wasteful raise a point that should be considered. People that say government safety nets are important raise a point that should be considered.

How can it be so difficult to accept that not everyone agrees with you...
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I don't understand that.
the statement "Why is it so difficult to accept the fact that people disagree with you" could be used to argue against anyone expressing an opinion
 
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You think that nearly half the voting population of the USA is wrong. .

I don't think that people that voted for Trump are wrong, I am not sure but they are probably right. However it really does seem many people on this Forum think Trump is righteous.
 
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In 2008 John McCain ran for president, a man of great character, conviction and purpose. I didn't vote for him but cried at his funeral.
In 2012 Romney ran, a man who had had progressive accomplishments in Massachusetts, a man of strong religious faith, a man who has shown his character as senator.
Both lost.
I think that in 2016 Republicans, reeling after two losses, wanted to try something completely different, and they won.
Hopefully now that they have lost decisively, definitively, honestly, and fairly with the same candidate who won in 2016 they will go back to the statesman role. John Kasich. Jeff Flake.
Candidates who are respected by independents and even Democrats, who would work with both sides.
 
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I don't understand that.
the statement "Why is it so difficult to accept the fact that people disagree with you" could be used to argue against anyone expressing an opinion

It is not used when someone is expressing an opinion. It is used when someone thinks he should convince everyone that his opinion is the only right opinion. Like you seemed to indicate in your original post.
 
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I don't think that people that voted for Trump are wrong, I am not sure but they are probably right. However it really does seem many people on this Forum think Trump is righteous.
That's a whole other question than whether he was a ok president.
 
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In 2008 John McCain ran for president, a man of great character, conviction and purpose. I didn't vote for him but cried at his funeral.
In 2012 Romney ran, a man who had had progressive accomplishments in Massachusetts, a man of strong religious faith, a man who has shown his character as senator.
Both lost.
I think that in 2016 Republicans, reeling after two losses, wanted to try something completely different, and they won.
Hopefully now that they have lost decisively, definitively, honestly, and fairly with the same candidate who won in 2016 they will go back to the statesman role. John Kasich. Jeff Flake.
Candidates who are respected by independents and even Democrats, who would work with both sides.
That's laughable. "Trump was elected because people were reeling from two previous losses." No, that's not why he was elected.
Romney, a senator of character? You're only saying that because he hates Trump and sides with the left a lot.
God help us if we get another one of your establishment "statesmen" in. There's a reason the Dems love them, and it's probably not why you think. I'll never vote for them. Never.
 
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