Do we humans disprove evolution?

Aussie Pete said:

Now I don't have to try.

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Cop out.

Unless I’m very much mistaken I don’t think Christianity is a get out clause for being a bad person.

AV1611VET said:

Would I be correct if I said they pick (or make up) any formula that challenges every jot & tittle of the Bible?

Such as the Bible verses that speak of evil increasing as the time draws near?

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I seriously doubt that. The statistics are what they are, regardless of biblical jots & tittles.

AV1611VET said:

If Buddhism teaches morals, I'm Genghis Khan.

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If that's the case, from this day forward, I know you as Genghis Khan.

Estrid said:

I had trouble with the violin. Takes time study and willingness
to try.

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Too many missing pieces in the two species that I studied.

Frank Robert said:

Being skeptical is good, it is skepticism that drives science to develop and test hypothesis that better explain the evidence and to make predictions.

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General relativity predicts so much but ultimately falls short. So does special relativity.

Me very skeptical, me ignore Big Bang, general relativity and special relativity. Throw the evolutionary text books in with the others. Monkey not know anything yet.

driewerf said:

In my book it's a crime. Sins are indeed imaginary offenses to an equally imaginary deity.

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I cannot accept that the universe exists without a first or primary cause. Nothing ever just happens without some level of causation. Nor do I accept the existence of the human race was not a planned event. Far too much fine tuning all the way through. I will gladly tick the deity box.

klutedavid said:

General relativity predicts so much but ultimately falls short. So does special relativity.

Me very skeptical, me ignore Big Bang, general relativity and special relativity. Throw the evolutionary text books in with the others. Monkey not know anything yet.

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Chronic, but not incurable

klutedavid said:

I cannot accept that the universe exists without a first or primary cause. Nothing ever just happens without some level of causation. Nor do I accept the existence of the human race was not a planned event. Far too much fine tuning all the way through. I will gladly tick the deity box.

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Buidling a worldview based on cause and effect, leads to inconsistency.

klutedavid said:

General relativity predicts so much but ultimately falls short. So does special relativity.

Me very skeptical, me ignore Big Bang, general relativity and special relativity. Throw the evolutionary text books in with the others. Monkey not know anything yet.

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Appears skepticism is wasted on you. All that is necessary for you is to not question your beliefs.

klutedavid said:

General relativity predicts so much but ultimately falls short. So does special relativity.

Me very skeptical, me ignore Big Bang, general relativity and special relativity. Throw the evolutionary text books in with the others. Monkey not know anything yet.

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Quantum mechanics + Special Relativity → Quantum Electrodynamics → Development of transistor → Development of personal computer ≠ A monkey typing on a personal computer stating special relativity falls short.

Similarly;

General Relativity → Gravitational time dilation → Pound-Rebka experiment → Hafele-Keating experiment → GPS time corrections ≠ Don’t use GPS for directions because a monkey states general relativity falls short.

klutedavid said:

I cannot accept that the universe exists without a first or primary cause. Nothing ever just happens without some level of causation. Nor do I accept the existence of the human race was not a planned event. Far too much fine tuning all the way through. I will gladly tick the deity box.

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Nothing except for
The uncaused causing- thing.

Which happens to be bigger than the universe.

Weird.

klutedavid said:

I cannot accept that the universe exists without a first or primary cause. Nothing ever just happens without some level of causation. Nor do I accept the existence of the human race was not a planned event. Far too much fine tuning all the way through. I will gladly tick the deity box.

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Nothing is uncaused except..... God.

Special pleading is not a convincing argument.

Bungle_Bear said:

Nothing is uncaused except..... God.

Special pleading is not a convincing argument.

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Who cares if the argument is convincing or not. That is what I believe.

Estrid said:

Nothing except for
The uncaused causing- thing.

Which happens to be bigger than the universe.

Weird.

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Not weird, perhaps beyond your understanding.

sjastro said:

Quantum mechanics + Special Relativity → Quantum Electrodynamics → Development of transistor → Development of personal computer ≠ A monkey typing on a personal computer stating special relativity falls short.

Similarly;

General Relativity → Gravitational time dilation → Pound-Rebka experiment → Hafele-Keating experiment → GPS time corrections ≠ Don’t use GPS for directions because a monkey states general relativity falls short.

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Trivial information and technology. How about dealing with the big questions.

Larnievc said:

Cop out.

Unless I’m very much mistaken I don’t think Christianity is a get out clause for being a bad person.

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All people are inherently unacceptable to God, "good" or "bad". When God saves someone, He removes the old heart of man (spiritual, of course) and gives them a new heart. Jesus comes to live in that individual. If they are willing, Jesus will cause them to be loving, kind, patient, faithful - all the qualities that are admirable and good - and acceptable to God. Christians can and do fail from time to time. That is a good thing. It usually causes believers to become more dependent on Christ and therefore more able to express the nature of Christ.

Christians gain a new nature immediate they receive Christ. That does not mean instant perfection. There are ingrained habits and attitudes that take time to change. But change will come, if the person is willing. And God has a way of encouraging willingness too.

klutedavid said:

Trivial information and technology. How about dealing with the big questions.

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There are two big questions here.
(1) Explain how computers and GPS function if relativity falls short?
(2) How are monkeys capable of making informed comments?

sjastro said:

There are two big questions here.
(1) Explain how computers and GPS function if relativity falls short?
(2) How are monkeys capable of making informed comments?

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General Relativity is limited, in that, it is a construct of the human mind. It may seem important to you that you can know your location, with a GPS. That GPS application supports the concept of General Relativity but does that then mean. That General Relativity is a valid theory that will not one day be discarded?

Will Quantum physics eventually put GR to rest?

However, unanswered questions remain, the most fundamental being how general relativity can be reconciled with the laws of quantum physics to produce a complete and self-consistent theory of quantum gravity; and how gravity can be unified with the three non-gravitational forces—strong, weak, and electromagnetic forces.(wikipedia)

Monkey can make informed comments but the passage of time renders those comments irrelevant.

Larnievc said:

Cop out.

Unless I’m very much mistaken I don’t think Christianity is a get out clause for being a bad person.

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Jesus arrived to enable the bad people to become saints. Jesus did not arrive to rescue those people, who see themselves as good people.

klutedavid said:

Not weird, perhaps beyond your understanding.

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Of course its beyond my understanding unless of course its
nonsense and special pleading.
Nobody knows about origin of universe but I kind of figure
people like Ted Tegmark would, if not too polite, roll their
eyes at the kind of understanding the likes of you or i can manage.