The Death and True Resurrection of Jesus.

Yeshua HaDerekh · Mar 13, 2021

Bro.T said:
So Jesus would Have been in the Grave Wednesday night, Thursday daytime and Thursday night, Friday daytime, Friday night, Saturday daytime and Jesus rose right before the sun went down on Saturday. Hence one has the 3 days and 3 nights which Jesus prophesied.

Except the eyewitnesses on the road to Emmaus prove that your scenario is wrong...

Jaxxi · Mar 13, 2021

Bro.T said:
You would get a full understanding if you read the full lesson. I had to break it up in parts, but I'll try to explain.

Jesus was always being inquired of by the Jews for a sign. He gave them one in reference to His death and resurrection. He told them that just like Jonas, He would be in the earth 3 days and 3 nights. In the Gospel of John Jesus again gave the Jews a sign by telling them if this temple was destroyed He would raise it up in 3 days. Jesus was referring to His body. (Matthew 12:38) Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Let's take another look at it (John 2:18) Then answered the Jews and said unto him, “What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?” (19) Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. (20) Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? (21) But he spake of the temple of his body.

Jesus makes it clear the time between His death and resurrection would be 3 days and 3 nights.

Now despite the fact that Jesus Himself said that He would be in the grave 3 days and 3 nights, man has come up with the tradition of Jesus dying on Good Friday and rising early Sunday morning. In following this tradition, not only does one not observe one of God's Holy Days, which is the Passover, they directly deny the words of Jesus. It was Jesus who gave the sign of being in the grave 3 days and 3 nights. The tradition of Good Friday and Easter clearly does not line up with scripture. Because following this tradition the maximum one has Jesus in the grave is 1 day and 2 nights.
According to tradition, if Jesus had died on Friday, He would have been in the grave Friday night, Saturday day and Saturday night. One would not count Sunday because in John (20:1) it states that the 1st day of the week which is Sunday, Mary came to the grave site when it was still dark. In Luke (24:1-6) They find that the stone which was placed in front of the sepulcher had been removed and an angel tells them that Jesus had already risen.

How They Say It Happened

Tradition of Man - Good Friday & Easter SU M T W TH F S
Days 1 1
Nights 1 1

This is the short version of this lesson, but the version is posted here.
Now remember God's days start at evening and end the next evening. Keep that in mind as you view the next set of scriptures. Jesus had been betrayed by Judas the evening of the Passover. John 13 tells how Jesus and His disciples, that evening, were sharing the Passover meal. John (18:3) shows that same evening; Jesus was betrayed and taken away. It was still nighttime when they took Jesus, because the men that came and took and bound Him had lanterns and torches.

Jesus was crucified the next day but it was still the Passover. Remember God's days run from sundown to sundown. Jesus had been taken into custody the night of the Passover and the next morning which is the day of the Passover, He was condemned and crucified.

The following verses deomonstrate how Pilate was willing to release Jesus the morning after he had been taken in to custody. It was still the Passover. We all know the Jews refused and Jesus was crucified.

(John 18:39) But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover: will ye therefore that I release unto you the King of the Jews? (40) Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.
Remember Mark (15:42) Joseph craved the body of Jesus the evening of the Passover. Now one can see that this was towards the end of the Passover.
3 Days And 3 Nights

The scriptures explain how Jesus was in the earth 3 days and 3 nights just as He had foretold.
How It Really Happened

3 Days And 3 Nights
SU M T W TH F S
Days 1 1 1
Nights 1 1 1

That's because Jesus went into His grave right before the end of the Passover or Wed. evening. The passing of the Passover brought in the Feast of the Unleavened Bread. So Jesus would Have been in the Grave Wednesday night, Thursday daytime and Thursday night, Friday daytime, Friday night, Saturday daytime and Jesus rose right before the sun went down on Saturday. Hence one has the 3 days and 3 nights which Jesus prophesied.

Ok so John's gospel says that Jesus' trial and execution is the day before Passover, right? Why would Jesus break bread 2 days before Passover? Because He knew He would be in the grave? I follow and believe everything you said, and that makes sense to me. I believe that the devil has twisted it up somewhere is the traditions of men because people celebrating the true days of Christ's glory is just too powerful for his cause. He twisted it somewhere but you are on to something definitely! Good work! :oldthumbsup:

Bro.T · Mar 13, 2021

Clare73 said:
The "church" (ek-klesia, called-out assembly) in the wilderness is simply God's OT people before Canaan.

How is the Sabbath involved?

This is off topic, but I'll explain a little. The Children of Israel are the church of God. They are God's people then and now, only today they are in captivity.
For what purpose did the Lord choose the children of Israel? (Exodus 19: 1-6) Let's look at the 5th & 6th vs.; "Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: (6th vs.) and ye shall be unto me a Kingdom of Priest, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel." Take a look at what Peter was telling the Jews in 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

They went through the Egyptians and later down the line after time came in the land of Canaan. The Sabbath day started in Exodus 20: 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. So from Exodus all the way down to Jesus time the Sabbath day was still strong, in fact Jesus die and rose up on the sabbath day, the seventh day of the week. This lesson I post shows that, if you go back and read them all.

Even after the death of Jesus Paul taught the Gentiles and kept the Sabbath day strong with the apostles and teaching the Jews who didn't believe at the time. But since the priest went into captivity, someone took over and didn't suppose to. Paul says in Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

But check out what Paul says in Romans 11: 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Jaxxi · Mar 13, 2021

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
Except the eyewitnesses on the road to Emmaus prove that your scenario is wrong...

Eyewitnesses have proven that innocent men go to their graves- that is all I see there. Since the 1990s, when DNA testing was first introduced, Innocence Project researchers have reported that 73 %of the 239 convictions overturned through DNA testing were based on eyewitness testimony.

Yeshua HaDerekh · Mar 13, 2021

Jaxxi said:
Ok so John's gospel says that Jesus' trial and execution is the day before Passover, right? Why would Jesus break bread 2 days before Passover? Because He knew He would be in the grave? I follow and believe everything you said, and that makes sense to me. I believe that the devil has twisted it up somewhere is the traditions of men because people celebrating the true days of Christ's glory is just too powerful for his cause. He twisted it somewhere but you are on to something definitely! Good work!

No. Passover is on 14 Nisan, a Friday that year. He died that day at the same time the lambs were being sacrificed.

Bro.T · Mar 13, 2021

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
Except the eyewitnesses on the road to Emmaus prove that your scenario is wrong...

I don't have a scenario, I just post out of the Bible what's written.

Yeshua HaDerekh · Mar 13, 2021

Jaxxi said:
Eyewitnesses have proven that innocent men go to their graves- that is all I see there. Since the 1990s, when DNA testing was first introduced, Innocence Project researchers have reported that 73 %of the 239 convictions overturned through DNA testing were based on eyewitness testimony.

That has nothing to do with what I said. Maybe you should go read the account...
Luke 24:13-35

Yeshua HaDerekh · Mar 13, 2021

Bro.T said:
I just post out of the Bible what's written.

No you do not. If you did you would see how wrong you are...

Yeshua HaDerekh · Mar 13, 2021

Bro.T said:
That's because Jesus went into His grave right before the end of the Passover or Wed. evening. The passing of the Passover brought in the Feast of the Unleavened Bread. So Jesus would Have been in the Grave Wednesday night, Thursday daytime and Thursday night, Friday daytime, Friday night, Saturday daytime and Jesus rose right before the sun went down on Saturday. Hence one has the 3 days and 3 nights which Jesus prophesied.

And behold, two of them were going that very day (the 1st day of the week...SUNDAY) to a village named Emmaus, which was threescore furlongs from Jerusalem.

And they communed with each other of all these things which had happened.

And it came to pass, while they communed and questioned together, that Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.

But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.

And he said unto them, What communications are these that ye have one with another, as ye walk? And they stood still, looking sad.

And one of them, named Cleopas, answering said unto him, Dost thou alone sojourn in Jerusalem and not know the things which are come to pass there in these days?

But we hoped that it was he who should redeem Israel. Yea and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things came to pass.

Day 3 Sunday...day of resurrection
Day 2 Sabbath...Yeshua in the tomb
Day 1 Friday...the day the events occurred...trial, death and burial before sunset

prodromos · Mar 13, 2021

Bro.T said:
Jesus makes it clear the time between His death and resurrection would be 3 days and 3 nights.

No, He makes it clear He would rise ON the third day. He states that multiple times to His disciples, and the testimony of the disciples who met Christ on the road to Emmaus confirms it is true. So either Christ was contradicting Himself or we recognise that the expression "3 days and 3 nights" is an example of synecdoche, where the whole (day and night) refers to the part (the early morning, the late afternoon). Synecdoche is very common in the Scriptures, though the more common form is where the part refers to the whole. When you recognise that "3 days and 3 nights" is a figure of speech then the apparent contradictions vanish.
3 days and 3 nights refers to 3 part or full days. Friday evening, all of the Sabbath, and Sunday morning.

Clare73 · Mar 13, 2021

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
No. Passover is on 14 Nisan, a Friday that year. He died that day at the same time the lambs were being sacrificed.

He died about three pm.

Were the lambs slaughtered that early?

Yeshua HaDerekh · Mar 13, 2021

Clare73 said:
He died about three pm.

Were the lambs slaughtered that early?

Yes

d taylor · Mar 13, 2021

Here is a thursday view.

Was Jesus Crucified on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday? » Reasons for Hope* Jesus

prodromos · Mar 13, 2021

Jaxxi said:
Eyewitnesses have proven that innocent men go to their graves- that is all I see there. Since the 1990s, when DNA testing was first introduced, Innocence Project researchers have reported that 73 %of the 239 convictions overturned through DNA testing were based on eyewitness testimony.

All of the Gospels are based on eyewitness accounts. Where does that leave you?

prodromos · Mar 13, 2021

d taylor said:
Here is a thursday view.

Was Jesus Crucified on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday? » Reasons for Hope* Jesus

There is no such thing as a High Sabbath that does not fall on the 7th day Sabbath. It is a man made tradition to try and accomodate a literal reading of "three days and three nights" and conveniently ignores the many times Jesus told His disciples He would rise on the 3rd day, as well as the Emmaus testimony.

DamianWarS · Mar 13, 2021

Bro.T said:
Well, the fact that Jesus didn't die on good Friday and rise Sunday morning, may affected some people. Unless you can get three day and three night from Good Friday to Sunrise Sunday Morning service.

Hebrews count days from sundown to sundown. It's perfectly feasible for Christ to have died before sundown Friday which is day 1, lie in the grave the entire sabbath sundown to sundown fulfilling the demand of the Sabbath: day 2, resurrected sometime after sundown sabbath and before sunrise Sunday the third day.

Scripture is not only in agreement when Jesus resurrected but quite explict
Mat 28:1 After the Sabbath...
Mar 16:1 When the Sabbath was over...
Luk 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning...
Joh 20:1 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark...

Regardless how you count days scripture says Christ rose on the first day of the week.

Bro.T said:
Did you take time and read the lesson in total to get understanding? The lessons had to continue from one

I was too distracted by your sabbath agenda to hear anything else you had to say.

Semper-Fi · Mar 13, 2021

truefiction1 said:
You're counting nights and days in accordance with
contemporary reasoning and not with knowledge of
how nights and days are counted in the Bible.

Lets see what the bible says--And God called
the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.

And the evening and the morning were the first day. …
And the evening and the morning were the second day. …
And the evening and the morning were the third day”...
(Genesis 1:4-13).

Notice it: God even spells out how long three days and nights
would take: three periods of light, and three periods of darkness.

“Are there not twelve hours in the day? … But if a man walk
in the night, he stumbleth,” He said in John 11:9-10.

Certainly He knew how long a day was and how long
a night was (12 hours each) when he made it.

From Friday to Sunday is not 3 days per the bible.

Semper-Fi · Mar 13, 2021

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
It wasn't.

The night Jesus Christ was betrayed,
He and His disciples prepared and kept
[the Lords Passover]. (Matthew 26:18,
Mark 14:12, 16; Luke 22:15)

G3957
πάσχα
pascha
pas'-khah
Of Chaldee origin (compare [H6453]); the Passover (the meal,
the day, the festival or the special sacrifices connected with it):
Total KJV occurrences: 29

The word Pascha would never had been used if this
was something else other then the Passover event.

Christ changed the symbols of the Passover.
Now to eat the bread and drink the wine. On
“the same night in which he Christ was betrayed”
"same night in which he was betrayed took bread.”

God also passes over (forgives) our sins
when we repent of them and come under the
shed blood of Jesus Christ our Passover,
sacrificed for us.

“It is the sacrifice of the Lord’s Passover”
Kept on the 14th, this is God’s Passover.

It was a Seudah HaMafsekhet...literally the "last supper"
before the fast of the firstborn on the 14th.

[Seudah HaMafsekhet] and [fast of the firstborn on the 14th]

-Where is this in the old testament recorded to observe?

The Jews have been known to make there own traditions
other then listed in Leviticus. For example in the time
of Christ, they where keeping Passover a day later
then they did back in the old testament.

[The Lords Passover] is on the start of the 14th, [the Jews
Passover] was being observed instead on the 15th.

(John 2:13) Here it is called “the Jews’ Passover”
—not “the Lord’s Passover” Why is this ?

Semper-Fi · Mar 13, 2021

prodromos said:
There is no such thing as a High Sabbath
that does not fall on the 7th day Sabbath.

You might want to reread Leviticus 23, because
there are several [High Sabbaths] Of Gods where no work is
allowed- that fall on different days of the week every year.

Semper-Fi · Mar 13, 2021

The Quartodeciman controversy arose because Christians in the churches of Jerusalem and Asia Minor observed the Passover on the 14th of the first month (Nisan), no matter the day of the week on which it occurred, while the churches in and around Rome changed to the practice of celebrating Easter always on the Sunday following first Full Moon following the vernal equinox, calling it "the day of the resurrection of our Saviour". The difference was turned into an ecclesiastical controversy when the practice was condemned by synods of bishops.[4]

So now instead of keeping Passover using Gods calendar as given,
now the world is using a pagan Roman calendar, altered by a Pope.

Time was changed to blot out Gods ordained Feasts,
His Holy convocations .

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