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Or perhaps ask those who have sampled what the tree has to offer.
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Paul did not teach Perpetual Belief Alone-ism for salvation.
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This does not mean a believer can sin and still be saved because they have a belief alone on Jesus. Jesus did not say that the bad fruit we do is now good fruit because we believe on the finished work of the cross. The Bible does not use such immoral words. It literally means if Christ abides in you, then good fruit (righteous acts) and not bad fruit (grievous sin*) will follow. The good tree is Jesus. We have been changed and the Lord shines His light through us. In context (if you were to accept it), says that everyone who does not do what He says is like a fool who built his house upon the sand and when a storm came, great was the fall of that house (Matthew 7:26-27). It's why Jesus told those believers to depart from Him in Matthew 7:23. Yes, they did wonderful works (Matthew 7:22), but they also worked iniquity or sin, too. So doing both good and evil did not help them. Jesus said depart from me you that work iniquity. This is why Jesus did not know them (See: 1 John 2:3-4). For to break God's laws or commands is sin (1 John 3:4), and we have to know God in order to have eternal life (John 17:3). For the one who says they know the Lord and they do not keep His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in them (1 John 2:4). What truth is not in them? Jesus. For Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6).
For we know that everyone who does righteousness is born of Him (1 John 2:29), and he that commits sin is of the devil (1 John 3:8).
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*Grievous sin is any exceptionally serious sin that the Bible specifically warns with warnings of hellfire and or condemnation if a person does not repent (i.e. they refuse to confess and forsake their sin). Examples would be Matthew 5:28-30, Matthew 6:15, Matthew 12:37, Matthew 19:17-19, Matthew 25:31-46, Luke 9:62, Luke 10:25-28, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, 1 John 3:15, Revelation 21:8, Revelation 22:14-15). For Proverbs 28:13 in part basically says that the person who confesses and forsakes sin shall have mercy. Many of these truths in Scripture simply go ignored by most of Christianity today. They are not reading and believing all of their Bible and they are only picking and choosing what parts of the Bible they want to believe in (Based on maintaining their current lifestyle).
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Yes, because that is how God establishes the truth of how things work in regards to sin and salvation. The reason for this is that we have to actually be sorry over our sin to have forgiveness. If God were to take a life before they had a chance to confess it, this means that God knows their future and He knew they would just end up justifying sin and evil their whole lives and they really would not want to fully surrender their lives to God. They made sin their real god instead of the One true GOD.
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It comes down to obedience to God's Word.
We learn in 1 Kings 13:11-32 about a man of God who later disobeyed God's Word and he was killed as a result of his disobedience. So just because a person can at one time be a man of God does not mean you are exempt from later being punished or cast out on account of disobedience.
We learn in 1 Kings 13:11-32 about a man of God who later disobeyed God's Word and he was killed as a result of his disobedience. So just because a person can at one time be a man of God does not mean you are exempt from later being punished or cast out on account of disobedience.
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Matthew 13:41-42 simply goes ignored by a lot of Christians today. I imagine many do not even know what these verses are even saying. But it is so simple to understand. Just read it like a child.
Matthew 13:41-42 is saying that the Son of Man (i.e. JESUS) will send forth his angels and they will gather out of HIS KINGDOM all things that offend and those who do iniquity (i.e. sin) and they will be cast into the furnace of fire (i.e. the Lake of Fire).
In other words, a believer can be in the kingdom now and later be cast out at the judgment by Christ by Christ's angels on account of their justifying sin.
Matthew 13:41-42 is saying that the Son of Man (i.e. JESUS) will send forth his angels and they will gather out of HIS KINGDOM all things that offend and those who do iniquity (i.e. sin) and they will be cast into the furnace of fire (i.e. the Lake of Fire).
In other words, a believer can be in the kingdom now and later be cast out at the judgment by Christ by Christ's angels on account of their justifying sin.
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Your interpretation / teaching of the Gospel is that any single unconfessed sin will send a born again Christian straight to hell.
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If you were to read and believe Matthew 5:22, you would learn that Jesus describes two non-mortal sins and then he talks about a mortal sin.
“But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be answerable to the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be answerable to the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.” (Matthew 5:22) (NASB).
The words in blue above are in reference to non-mortal sins because they are the kinds of sins that would incur punishment by earthly courts, but the words in red is in reference to a mortal sin (Which is in reference to being punished in the afterlife, i.e. condemnation).
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First, the gospel is a completely different animal. The gospel is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. The gospel is believing that Christ died for our sins and that He buried, and that He was risen three days later on our behalf for salvation. That's it. That's the gospel. But you need to realize that the gospel CALLS US. 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 says that the gospel call is... God has chosen us to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit, and a belief of the truth. For Romans 8:13 says if we live after the flesh (sin), we will die (die spiritually), but if we put to death the misdeeds of the body (sin) by the Spirit, we will live (live eternally).
Second, it's not just my interpretation because we learn from Scripture plainly that just one sin can condemn you.
1. Adam committed one sin and he died spiritually that day and he needed to later be reconciled with God.
2. Ananias and Sapphira each individually committed the one time sin of lying to the Spirit and they were condemned to hell because a great fear came upon the church.
3. Simon the sorcerer was told to repent and pray to the Lord so as to be forgiven of his sin of trying to pay for the Spirit.
2. Ananias and Sapphira each individually committed the one time sin of lying to the Spirit and they were condemned to hell because a great fear came upon the church.
3. Simon the sorcerer was told to repent and pray to the Lord so as to be forgiven of his sin of trying to pay for the Spirit.
In addition, we learn in the Parable of the Prodigal Son that the prodigal son was dead when he was living it up with prostitutes (Note: This was not a rejection of the father but it was sin that caused him to be dead) (See: Luke 15:24, Luke 15:32, Luke 15:30). This same truth is expressed in James 5:19-20. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. So we need to confess our sins in order to be forgiven of sin. This same truth is expressed in Proverbs 28:13.
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#1. Numbers 35:16-18 says it only takes one act of murder to be a murderer; And Leviticus 20:10 says it only takes one act of adultery to be an adulterer.
#2. Jesus Himself regarded just looking at a woman once as an act of adultery (Matthew 5:28).
#3. John says, "No murderer has eternal life abiding in them." (1 John 3:15).
#4. Proverbs 6:32 says "Whosoever commits adultery with a woman lacks understanding: he that does it destroys his own soul."
#5. Jesus Himself says that just looking at a woman in lust (Which is adultery) is potential for a person to be cast bodily in hell fire (See Matthew 5:28-30).
#6. David needed to confess of his sin in order to be forgiven (See Psalms 51).
#7. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
#8. Revelation 21:8 says, "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Murderers and whoremongers will be cast into the lake of fire. All liars will be cast into the lake of fire. ALL liars, and not just some. NO murderer has eternal life abiding in them (1 John 3:15).
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So to summarize:
You believe a single unconfessed sinful thought will send a born again Christian to fiery hell. And you believe you have a special anointing of discernment most Christians lack which enables you to come to your conclusions. And you believe that only you and handful of others with your special anointing will get through the narrow gate.
You believe a single unconfessed sinful thought will send a born again Christian to fiery hell. And you believe you have a special anointing of discernment most Christians lack which enables you to come to your conclusions. And you believe that only you and handful of others with your special anointing will get through the narrow gate.
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Why do you apply an interpretation to the scripture?
Matthew 7:21-23
Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
An interpretation of this paragraph is impossible because the plain reading of the paragraph, is clear and concise.
Only those who do the will of the Father will enter heaven.
So does the scripture clearly tell us what the will of the Father is?
John 6:40
For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.
There is no debate, the will of the Father is clearly stated.
In the paragraph (Matthew 7:21-23) Jesus tells us in no uncertain terms what is the cause of lawlessness.
‘I never knew you; depart from Me'
Even though the works were identical to the works that the apostles performed. These works could not conceal, the fact, that these folk, even though they used the very name of Jesus. They simply did not believe in Jesus, Jesus never knew them.
John 3:18
He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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His interpretation is the anointed interpretation. All who disagree will burn.
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And if they fail to take into account one of many sins of commission or omission, even the most obedient Christians commit all the time, they're toast.
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Eh? We are usually not doing the good we should be doing. And our best isn't good enough. We always fall short. And our sins, especially the ones of omission, are too numerous for us to keep track of. We can't save ourselves.
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That's a non sequitur. You're describing someone who never became a born again believer. Also being sorry about being a sinner, isn't the same as formally confessing each occurring sin down to the last thought.
"Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered." Romans 8:26
The Holy Spirit is our confessor. The Holy Spirit is our advocate. This applies to born again believers who stumble and struggle with sin. It does not apply to the unbeliever you described above.
"For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do." Romans 7:15
This describes a born again believer who struggles with sin and disobedience.
"O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!" Romans 7:24
Yes, I think Paul is saying that even while he's sinning and being disobedient he is still saved. Because God knows the whole man. God knows his sin and disobedience, but God also knows his desire to be righteous, even though he fails at it.
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