500+ evangelical pastors and faith leaders: Say 'No' to Christian Nationalism

TLK Valentine said:

I assumed you were looking to take the approach of attempting to correct a Christian Nationalist's shaky theology face-to-face.

Not recommended.

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Why would I do that?

No, I let the Government and the various proper Authorities deal with them face-to-face.

essentialsaltes said:

Evangelical Leaders Statement
Condemning Christian Nationalism's role in the January 6 Insurrection

As leaders in the broad evangelical community, we recognize and condemn the role Christian Nationalism played in the violent, racist, anti-American insurrection at the United States Capitol on January 6.

While we come from varied backgrounds and political stances, we stand together against the perversion of the Christian faith as we saw on January 6, 2021. We also stand against the theology and the conditions that led to the insurrection.

Our faith will not allow us to remain silent at such a time as this. We are also aware that our world needs more than a statement right now… we need action. We will do our best to be faithful to Jesus, and to those Christ called “the least of these.”

read the full letter

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Your post sounds disingenuous because you used the term “Christian nationalism.” Christianity is a faith that transcends all races, nationalities, and genders (Galatians 3:28). Indeed, our faith is intended for all peoples irrespective of their country of birth. Christian nationalism is therefore an oxymoron.

Nine of Spades said:

Your post sounds disingenuous...

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So does yours, for trying to pretend that there is no such thing as Christian Nationalism.

Speedwell said:

So does yours, for trying to pretend that there is no such thing as Christian Nationalism.

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If I have reasons to believe that Christian nationalism is an oxymoron, then I wouldn't be pretending not to believe in something that I already don't believe in.

Nine of Spades said:

If I have reasons to believe that Christian nationalism is an oxymoron, then I wouldn't be pretending not to believe in something that I already don't believe in.

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If you don't believe in Christian Nationalism, how to you characterize those Christians who do believe in it? How do you regard those Christians whose beliefs the pastors cited in the OP are saying "no" too?

Speedwell said:

If you don't believe in Christian Nationalism, how to you characterize those Christians who do believe in it? How do you regard those Christians whose beliefs the pastors cited in the OP are saying "no" too?

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If any Christian self-identifies as a Christian nationalist, I would share Galatians 3:28 with him, which basically says that Christ transcends all national barriers. I would thus prove to him that Christian nationalism cannot possibly exist.

Nine of Spades said:

If any Christian self-identifies as a Christian nationalist, I would share Galatians 3:28 with him, which basically says that Christ transcends all national barriers. I would thus prove to him that Christian nationalism cannot possibly exist.

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I doubt you'll find many people who would self-identify as a Christian nationalist. What you will find, however, are many people, including Christian leaders, whose values do not reflect Galatians 3:28.

hislegacy said:

First I am hearing of the term. I actually found their website (looks like a teenager designed it), but cannot find any real evidence of any volume following their ideology.

I have to ask - is this really anything more than a website and the left responding to something with little to no followers and exacerbating the situation?

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Though Christian Nationalism is a fairly new designation, it has been brewing in Christianity for decades. You can research this if you like . The tentacles are far reaching. Search ; Dominionism, Seven Mountain Mandate, Kingdom Now Theology, New Apostolic Reformation, etc. Be blessed.

****off topic observation****

How many Evangelical and faith leaders say no to abortion? Does that carry the same weight with the left that this does? If not, why not?

Nine of Spades said:

If any Christian self-identifies as a Christian nationalist, I would share Galatians 3:28 with him, which basically says that Christ transcends all national barriers. I would thus prove to him that Christian nationalism cannot possibly exist.

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And then they would accuse you of trying to use the Bible to promote a one world government/new world order/whatever you want to call it...

hislegacy said:

****off topic observation****

How many Evangelical and faith leaders say no to abortion? Does that carry the same weight with the left that this does? If not, why not?

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I'd say it carries no weight at all. Most (if not all) evangelical leaders are men, so there's nothing to say no to. And further, their opinions are irrelevant.

A woman's decision is hers, and hers alone, to make. No one else gets a vote, and anyone else's opinion only counts if she asks for it. And, of course, she is free to ignore it.

-- A2SG, so it's kind of a pointless question anyway......

Nine of Spades said:

Your post sounds disingenuous because you used the term “Christian nationalism.” Christianity is a faith that transcends all races, nationalities, and genders (Galatians 3:28). Indeed, our faith is intended for all peoples irrespective of their country of birth. Christian nationalism is therefore an oxymoron.

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Curiously, your position SUPPORTS the letter. We should NOT consider that a country should have the laws of one religion. We should reject efforts to implement Christian morals into law.

Belk said:

That does not even make sense. What is an economic or political lack of belief in deities?

Let us hope you other links are more salient



No there is not. None of the claims stated in this article about what is believe for multiculturalism are correct.



Oh dear.


So three pieces with poor reasoning and bad premises.




Holy cow! A well thought out and balanced piece. It concludes



Now that strikes me as a useful idea and a good statement on multiculturalism.

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So, you disagree then? Well, opinions vary.

98cwitr said:

According to CT:



What Is Christian Nationalism?

I disagree with the 2nd paragraph as written; I just want my elected reps to have faith in Christ.

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Hi My Dear in the Lord is a great ideal of reading your post, Am Pastor David i will like to enlighten you on Christian world if you don't mind message privately me for more details

Petros2015 said:

"Just a spoonful of sugar helps the arsenic go down, the arsenic go dooownn, arsenic go down..."

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Only God know the truth one and they shall be save

PastorJeremiah said:

Only God know the truth one and they shall be save

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Welcome to CF and forum 909!

Christian nationalism is no small problem, and it has roots all the way back to the mid 19th century in the wake of the Second Great Awakening, as an alternative myth started to explain the American Revolution (not on Enlightenment grounds of consent of the governed, but in terms of a religious covenant). I've seen evidence from religious scholars and journalists that substantial number of Christians in American are influenced by Christian Nationalist ideas, if not right espousing them personally, then frequently sympathetic to the same ideas. This is true not only among White Christians but also Black Christians as well, though White Christian Nationalism may also be associated with racism and hostility towards immigrants.

Maria Billingsley said:

Though Christian Nationalism is a fairly new designation, it has been brewing in Christianity for decades. You can research this if you like . The tentacles are far reaching. Search ; Dominionism, Seven Mountain Mandate, Kingdom Now Theology, New Apostolic Reformation, etc. Be blessed.

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The annual "Road to Majority Policy Conference"....the violent rhetoric is alarming...

"At this year’s event, which took place last month in Nashville, three clear trends were in evidence. First, the rhetoric of violence among movement leaders appeared to have increased significantly from the already alarming levels I had observed in previous years. Second, the theology of dominionism — that is, the belief that “right-thinking” Christians have a biblically derived mandate to take control of all aspects of government and society — is now explicitly embraced. And third, the movement’s key strategists were giddy about the legal arsenal that the Supreme Court had laid at their feet as they anticipated the overturning of Roe v. Wade."
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“The greatest danger to America is not our enemies from the outside, as powerful as they may be,” said former President Donald Trump, who delivered the keynote address at the event. “The greatest danger to America is the destruction of our nation from the people from within. And you know the people I’m talking about.”
Speakers at the conference vied to outdo one another in their denigration of the people that Mr. Trump was evidently talking about. Democrats, they said, are “evil,” “tyrannical” and “the enemy within,” engaged in “a war against the truth.”

“The backlash is coming,” warned Senator Rick Scott of Florida. “Just mount up and ride to the sounds of the guns, and they are all over this country. It is time to take this country back.”

Citing the fight against Nazi Germany during the Battle of the Bulge, Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson of North Carolina said, “We find ourselves in a pitched battle to literally save this nation.” Referencing a passage from Ephesians that Christian nationalists often use to signal their militancy, he added, “I don’t know about you, but I got my pack on, I got my boots on, I got my helmet on, I’ve got on the whole armor.”


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