Big WIN in Montana Legislature against powerful transgender movement.

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Ban on trans surgeries for children finally passes in Montana despite battle

After initial loss: Big WIN in Montana Legislature against powerful transgender movement. House passes bill to ban transgender surgeries on children.
MassResistance worked with sponsor to re-file bill that was initially defeated
On to the State Senate – where chances of passage are excellent
See video below of bizare LGBT testimony against it!
March 5, 2021
ALT TEXT The public hearing on Bill 427 before the Montana House Judiciary Committee faced a full-court press by the LGBT lobby, the radical medical establishment, and more.
The powerful and well-financed transgender movement suffered a big loss as pro-family Republicans and MassResistance refused to give up on an important push to protect vulnerable children from permanent damage to their bodies.

Initial loss shocked parents and families
We reported on Feb. 2 that bill 113 to ban the ghastly transgender “sex-change” procedures (both surgeries and hormone treatments) being done on children was defeated 51-49 in the Montana House of Representatives. It was a tremendous shock to people in that state.

These “medical procedures” permanently change and disfigure a child, often result in sterilization, and cause enormous trauma lasting a lifetime. But they are big money-makers for so-called “gender clinics” in children’s hospitals (and many smaller clinics), as well as “Big Pharma.” The transgender push on children is an important part of the LGBT ideology, which has now been accepted throughout corporate America.

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QUESTION: How aware are people about this issue and what can/should we do about it as Christians?
 

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I also think that surgical sex reassingment surgery shouldn't be done until a person has fully developed in both body and mind, as should any other surgical procedure that is elective and not done because of a disease. Like, for example, circumcision.
 
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I also think that surgical sex reassingment surgery shouldn't be done until a person has fully developed in both body and mind, as should any other surgical procedure that is elective and not done because of a disease. Like, for example, circumcision.
While I agree with that, at what point is a person fully developed?
 
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While I agree with that, at what point is a person fully developed?
While the answer to that is of course different from person to person, a general guideline could be decided on by medical and psychological experts.

Or we could be lazy and just go with the legal drinking age.
 
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While the answer to that is of course different from person to person, a general guideline could be decided on by medical and psychological experts.

Or we could be lazy and just go with the legal drinking age.
Well depending on some experts, it would be out to 23 or 25 based on brain development. Which is too late for most of these people.

Personally, I think it would be around 18 or 19.
 
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Well depending on some experts, it would be out to 23 or 25 based on brain development. Which is too late for most of these people.

Personally, I think it would be around 18 or 19.
I tend to agree. 18 sounds like a good time, with puberty blockers employed to buy some time.

But again, not an expert.
 
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When I was young even into my teens I hung with boys and men and not girls who were too shallow for my tastes. By eighteen and well into my early twenties I might have considered a sex change because I thought I preferred to hung with guys because I was more like them.

Then I found out its my personality and met a guy whom I married and raised girls who are not shallow. I also met more and more women with strong healthy characters but this came later in life. Thus I not sure teens or early twenties is really early enough. I think sex changes are life changing, and have read so many who regret those changes later in life.

Perhaps far better would be to have more studies into the effects of these changes and when people are ore likely to be set in their minds. Still if someone is of two sexes they probably should get a special dispensation to choose their sex if their parents didn't already or they feel strongly their parents choose wrong.
 
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But they are big money-makers for so-called “gender clinics” in children’s hospitals

Any data on how much money these surgeries have generated in total? In Montana, or in the US?
 
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Ban on trans surgeries for children finally passes in Montana despite battle

After initial loss: Big WIN in Montana Legislature against powerful transgender movement. House passes bill to ban transgender surgeries on children.
MassResistance worked with sponsor to re-file bill that was initially defeated
On to the State Senate – where chances of passage are excellent
See video below of bizare LGBT testimony against it!
March 5, 2021
ALT TEXT The public hearing on Bill 427 before the Montana House Judiciary Committee faced a full-court press by the LGBT lobby, the radical medical establishment, and more.
The powerful and well-financed transgender movement suffered a big loss as pro-family Republicans and MassResistance refused to give up on an important push to protect vulnerable children from permanent damage to their bodies.

Initial loss shocked parents and families
We reported on Feb. 2 that bill 113 to ban the ghastly transgender “sex-change” procedures (both surgeries and hormone treatments) being done on children was defeated 51-49 in the Montana House of Representatives. It was a tremendous shock to people in that state.

These “medical procedures” permanently change and disfigure a child, often result in sterilization, and cause enormous trauma lasting a lifetime. But they are big money-makers for so-called “gender clinics” in children’s hospitals (and many smaller clinics), as well as “Big Pharma.” The transgender push on children is an important part of the LGBT ideology, which has now been accepted throughout corporate America.

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QUESTION: How aware are people about this issue and what can/should we do about it as Christians?
There's no big win. In America, kids never been able to do bottom surgery.
 
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Any data on how much money these surgeries have generated in total? In Montana, or in the US?

https://www.transgendercounseling.com/temp/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Milrod-Karasic-2017-FINAL.pdf

I do not know the totals. Here is a survey of WPATH affiliated surgeons performing such procedures in the US, and they are concerned about some who are not well qualified performing these surgeries due to economic incentives. So I guess it is possible this aspect is a concern. But it is certainly not the main question in regards to proper care, ethics, etc.

This survey was looking at male to female bottom surgery in particular.

Anger and resentment at the perceived lack of established training centers in teaching hospitals sometimes spilled over in complaints that indicated a polarization of long-term practitioners against newcomers to the field who were seen as motivated by profit, often at the expense of the transgender population.

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There have been no major changes in surgery since the 1970s or 1980s. And there has been plenty of time to establish a fellowship. And now all of a sudden because it’s in the media, and really, the biggest reason for why everyone is doing it now, is the money is flowing. Because now insurance is paying. And now all these institutions have to have a program yesterday. And they are not doing it correctly, in my opinion. Seeing a week’s worth of surgery—maybe for a mastectomy, or maybe for anorchiectomy, or some of these other surgeries that are closely related, but this surgery is very advanced. The complications have severe consequences on patients’ lives and you can’t learn it in a week. And that is what’s happening; someone is going to see someone with a reputable name; they learn for a week, and they start doing them. And that is completely unethical! (Surgeon 14)
 
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There's no big win. In America, kids never been able to do bottom surgery.


That is incorrect. Here is a study in which 20 of the 22 surgeons who were known to perform vaginoplasty in the United States at the time responded.

https://www.transgendercounseling.com/temp/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Milrod-Karasic-2017-FINAL.pdf

Nine surgeons had never performed vaginoplasty on a transgender female minor, and the remaining 11 participants reported 1 to 20 cases per surgeon. Of the 11 surgeons who had performed vaginoplasty on a transgender female minor, 10 were in private practice. Reported ages of minors undergoing surgery ranged from 15 to “a day before 18” years (surgeon 7). Most participants had noticed a definite increase in the number of minors requesting information about the procedure on their own or being referred for vaginoplasty by their mental health providers.
 
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