We Are Not in the Last Days

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In the last days perilous times will come.

That day is today.
We can see it all around us.

Imagine living during the holocaust. I bet they thought the same thing!

Same can be said all through history, right back to the time of the Apostles. Wars etc etc etc..
 
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In the last days perilous times will come.

That day is today.
We can see it all around us.
And we have been since Christ. But that still doesn’t change the context that Paul was writing his last letter to Timothy, and the letter was to him. It’s completely unbelievable that Paul wrote that to Timothy in hoping that his letter would be preserved for two thousand years.
 
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I honestly dont think he'll come back in our life time.

That is precisely why He would. For he will come in a day and hour we do not expect.

“Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.”
(Matthew 24:44).
 
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Imagine living during the holocaust. I bet they thought the same thing!

Same can be said all through history, right back to the time of the Apostles. Wars etc etc etc..

Think about it from a religious and moral perspective. Things are even worse now than ever before.
 
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Hi everyone! I hope everyone is having a good day so far! :)

In Matthew, Jesus states that there will be many coming and saying they are Jesus in the last days.

Then, as he talks about the last days, he seems to tell them what's going to happen in the order its going to happen.

If we look and see there's not a lot of people saying they are Jesus and the fact that Jesus tells us the order all these things will happen, that should let you know that we are NOT in the last days yet.

We have been in the last days since over 2000 years. Even Paul though Jesus Christ was coming again very soon (and He will be coming very soon, He even says so in Revelation), but not everything we perceive is how God sees timelines. He is infinite while our bodies have an expiration date. He sees things much higher than we do, so it is of best interest to ask God for wisdom. :yellowheart:
 
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In regards to 2 Timothy 3:1-9:

2 Timothy 3:13 says,
“But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.”
Still written to Timothy for Timothy.
 
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Says you. I'm almost 70. I've seen the rot that has set into the world over the last 50 years or so especially. There are way too many people for the resources available for a start. There is already conflict over land and water in some countries. There is no way to increase amount of inhabitable land to keep up with the birth rate. Something has to give.
So do you think we are in the last days? How much more relevant is Revelation now than it was 40 years ago?
 
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Hi everyone! I hope everyone is having a good day so far! :)

In Matthew, Jesus states that there will be many coming and saying they are Jesus in the last days.

Then, as he talks about the last days, he seems to tell them what's going to happen in the order its going to happen.

If we look and see there's not a lot of people saying they are Jesus and the fact that Jesus tells us the order all these things will happen, that should let you know that we are NOT in the last days yet.
Understand that the last days will be dangerous times. People will be selfish and love money. They will be the kind of people who brag and who are proud. They will slander others, and they will be disobedient to their parents. They will be ungrateful, unholy, unloving, contrary, and critical. They will be without self-control and brutal, and they won’t love what is good. ...2 Timothy 3.

This does not describe people as a whole in the 1950's. Or even the 1970's. It completely reflects on the attitudes of people today and this was a sign of end times. We are seeing the earthquakes and natural disasters with hurricanes and global warming. People are having Rapture dreams like never before in history. Here is a statement from Captain Obvious( me). We are closer than we have ever been before....
 
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Understand that the last days will be dangerous times. People will be selfish and love money. They will be the kind of people who brag and who are proud. They will slander others, and they will be disobedient to their parents. They will be ungrateful, unholy, unloving, contrary, and critical. They will be without self-control and brutal, and they won’t love what is good. ...2 Timothy 3.

This does not describe people as a whole in the 1950's. Or even the 1970's. It completely reflects on the attitudes of people today and this was a sign of end times. We are seeing the earthquakes and natural disasters with hurricanes and global warming. People are having Rapture dreams like never before in history. Here is a statement from Captain Obvious( me). We are closer than we have ever been before....
It reflects the attitudes of people of Timothy’s day. That’s why Paul wrote that to him. And yes, we are closer. But we are still very far off.
 
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Says you. I'm almost 70. I've seen the rot that has set into the world over the last 50 years or so especially. There are way too many people for the resources available for a start. There is already conflict over land and water in some countries. There is no way to increase amount of inhabitable land to keep up with the birth rate. Something has to give.

But the last 50 years may have been the best 50 years of all time. If you were over 1000 years old, you may have been there to see all the genocides that have taken place, the old brothels, the slaves, and total disregard for human life that existed en masse before this generation.
 
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Understand that the last days will be dangerous times. People will be selfish and love money. They will be the kind of people who brag and who are proud. They will slander others, and they will be disobedient to their parents. They will be ungrateful, unholy, unloving, contrary, and critical. They will be without self-control and brutal, and they won’t love what is good. ...2 Timothy 3.

This does not describe people as a whole in the 1950's. Or even the 1970's. It completely reflects on the attitudes of people today and this was a sign of end times. We are seeing the earthquakes and natural disasters with hurricanes and global warming. People are having Rapture dreams like never before in history. Here is a statement from Captain Obvious( me). We are closer than we have ever been before....

But it does describe people of the 1870's and the 1590's.
 
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But the last 50 years may have been the best 50 years of all time. If you were over 1000 years old, you may have been there to see all the genocides that have taken place, the old brothels, the slaves, and total disregard for human life that existed en masse before this generation.
And there is not total disregard for human life now? It's called abortion. The golden age of the west has long since past. There never were any good old days, but the main difference now is technology. We can kill and maim with weapons not even dreamed of 200 years ago. We have finally created a weapon that could send the world back to the stone age. We are polluting, populating and pillaging the earth at a rate that cannot be sustained. There has always been good and evil in the world. I see evil prevailing in ways that I never imagined in a democracy like Australia. Slavery? Still around. Brothels? Legalised in Australia. If this is the best 50 years of all time, then bring on the return of Christ.
 
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So do you think we are in the last days? How much more relevant is Revelation now than it was 40 years ago?
40 years ago, there were fewer people. The Western world was still basically democratic. China was little threat to the stability of the world. There was no Al Qaeda or any of its offshoots. Iran was not making nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. North Korea had no nukes, neither did India or Pakistan. Lebanon was at peace, Libya likewise.

America used to be the bastion of democracy and free speech. Not any more. It's headed towards Marxist socialism. It's by degrees, but that's how democracy is undermined. I don't know how long we have. All I'm saying is that the signs are there.
 
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40 years ago, there were fewer people. The Western world was still basically democratic. China was little threat to the stability of the world. There was no Al Qaeda or any of its offshoots. Iran was not making nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. North Korea had no nukes, neither did India or Pakistan. Lebanon was at peace, Libya likewise.

America used to be the bastion of democracy and free speech. Not any more. It's headed towards Marxist socialism. It's by degrees, but that's how democracy is undermined. I don't know how long we have. All I'm saying is that the signs are there.
No, the signs aren’t there. You need to put down the newspaper. Christ’s kingdom will continue to grow. When He returns, He will return to a victorious kingdom. Like the planted mustard seed, it will grow into a magnificent tree where birds can perch. We are a long way off.
 
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No, the signs aren’t there. You need to put down the newspaper. Christ’s kingdom will continue to grow. When He returns, He will return to a victorious kingdom. Like the planted mustard seed, it will grow into a magnificent tree where birds can perch. We are a long way off.
Honestly, I could care less. I'm 70 in a couple of months. I'm glad I won't be around to see the catastrophes that precede the kingdom of God. The church is going backwards, not forwards. I do believe that the Lord Jesus is building His church and that she will prevail. I find it hard to see how that will include Christians in the Western world, who resemble Laodicea.

The reality is that no one really knows. I saw the question asked and I answered. If I'm wrong, it will change nothing. If I'm right, it will change nothing.
 
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Hi everyone! I hope everyone is having a good day so far! :)

In Matthew, Jesus states that there will be many coming and saying they are Jesus in the last days.

Then, as he talks about the last days, he seems to tell them what's going to happen in the order its going to happen.

If we look and see there's not a lot of people saying they are Jesus and the fact that Jesus tells us the order all these things will happen, that should let you know that we are NOT in the last days yet.

We are so far into the last days, it isn't even funny. I wrote these down off the top of my head:

The great economic reset - UN, WEF
Controlled economic demolition - Covidlockdowns
Rise of one-world currency - CBDC's, Digital wallet
Conditioning of compliance to a mask tpermit buying and selling
Conditioning that alterations using mRNA injections are perfectly acceptable
Imminent worldwide disclosure of our alien 'friends'
War with Syria resulting in direct devastating strikes on Damascus
Recent fulfillments of Revelation 12:1-3
Currently in year 72 of the 80 year fig tree prophecy
Rise and acceptance of sexual perversion, globally
Ezekiel 38 alliance of Russia, Turkey, and Iran already in place
Numerous calls for a one-world government from many world leaders and the Pope
A 10-nation army being formed out of Europe
Israel with the next Temple ready to go and red heifers to use
Temple alter already built and dedicated using a live sacrifice of a lamb
70-nation governmental agreement with the Sanhedrin, among other things, giving them power to judge the nations in accordance with the Noahidic laws, literally called the 'Organization of 70 Nations'
Massive locust swarms to facilitate the famine of the rider of the black horse
The 'Abrahamic Accords' in place for the AC to confirm with the 'many'
The constant drive for the convergence of the world's religions, including the interfaith 'Abrahamic Family House' nearing completion in Abu Dhabi
Israeli Rabbi's already claiming Messiah is here and they are talking to him directly​

Even the Jews have their own prophecies about today which are also coming to pass. These are why they are looking for their messiah to come now. Here are portions from them:

Kaduri - On the eve of the year 5780 the year of corrections, there will not be a government in Israel for an extended period and the various camps will be quarrel much without a decision on either side
Shoshani - There will come on the day that two ministers win the government in the land of Israel. Both their names will be Benjamin and neither of them will succeed in establishing their government or kingship.
Tractate Sanhedrin 98a - When this gate falls down, is rebuilt, falls again, and is again rebuilt, and then falls a third time, before it can be rebuilt the son of David will come.​

Like it or not, we did just pass 5780, with two Benjamins, Gantz and Netenhahu, sharing power but not succeeding in setting up their government, and the gate (seat of government) had indeed fallen 3 times and are awaiting the 4th election later this month. It's happening as even their rabbis have predicted.

For anyone calling themselves Christian and to say everything is as it's always been, it's mind-boggling. I can't fathom that level of blindness. Pray that your eyes be opened because you've missed a lot.

As for your sign of people claiming to be Jesus, that isn't accurate. He states they are claiming to be christ's, or 'anointed ones'. That's been in going on in droves for decades. For a glimpse of what is within the visible church itself, one needs to look no further than the Word of Faith/Charismatic segments to find thousands of examples to more than adequately fulfill that prophecy.
 
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