question for Trump supporters, Is Liz Cheney a warmonger?

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Ooooooo.... crowdsourcing. That’s so cute.

With external citations. You people were for it until you were against it.

It’s nothing unless someone makes enough sense to write a coherent narrative.

Which is evident that you never bothered to click any of the external links. lol.
 
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TIME Magazine? Seriously? :laughing:

BOMBSHELL: Time Magazine Admits How the 2020 Election Was “Rigged” - The GOP Times

I might as well post the direct link: The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

^ Note how the dates are more recent than your links.
Did you actually read the Time article? No, you never got past the sensational headline. The “conspiracy” was a campaign to ensure a fair uncorrupted election.

You are making my case for me, LOL. Sleep on it and read your own links before posting.
 
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Oh good! You also have taken the reasoned position that the police officer died for a justifiable and reasonable reason. And certainly the cop killer should not be charged.
Because blue lives matter right, Pauolmycin

The result of Officer Sicknick’s autopsy has still not been released; the cause of his death is still undetermined. The only death at the Capitol on January 6 that has conclusively been shown to be a homicide is that of Ashli Babbit.
 
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With external citations. You people were for it until you were against it.



Which is evident that you never bothered to click any of the external links. lol.
Sorry, but I’m not spending hours going through Freshman link dumps. When you can come up with a coherent narrative, let me know. Otherwise you got nothing.
 
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Selective notice is selective. I could post evidence, but you'll refuse to see that too, since it messes with your arbitrary framed narrative.
Please. I'd LOVE to see evidence! I mean, right after it happenned, I could easily see it happenning. Whether it continues to happen months or years down the road, couldn't say.
You're continuing to stall on the actual cause of death.
Are you arguing the cop WAS NOT killed?
If someone was proven to have killed hte officer (and yeah video tape evidence and charges against an individual certainly could suggest, you know, SOMETHING is brewing), do you support a jail sentence as harsh as the BLM protesting cop killers?

"Reason" ≠ Prog-dogma.
Well that's just intellectually lazy.

But you're not explaining the alleged "metaphor," nor the application. My teachers would have held me accountable to that. You know, real teachers.
I apologize. I'm used to teaching junior high behaviour and learning disabled kids. I honestly assumed you would have picked up on it. But here you go:

My neighbour: Trump's legal team
trespassing coyotes: election fraud
courts on hearing the case: courts not hearing the case.

I admit this is more time than I would have spent with my class but I'm hoping to really clarify it so we could, perhaps, leave this sidebar.
Is it "LARPing," or a terrorist training camp? Why can't you commit to anything here? A fat guy running around in the woods wearing a robe & wizard hat does not a terrorist training camp make. :laughing:
It's both; frankly, I'm a bit distressed you don't realize people can be "more than one thing". These hard revolutionaries think they are revolutionaries (ie. terrorists but obviously they would NEVER call themselves that...they "amurican Heroes"). Clearly the 6th showed that they truely are only LARPers. See, just because someone is TERRIBLE at what they do, doesn't mean they aren't that thing.
A fat guy running around in the woods, making plans to kidnap governors and senators in a tactical gear DOES a terrorist camp make.
Almost by way of definition.

What, you moving the goalposts? I think you're better than that. :grinning:
No. But since I'm a simple man; could you tell me where the goalposts started and where I moved them to? That'll help me understand your position a bit better.

The problem with accusing someone of making a strawman fallacy is that the one accusing it must (a.) state their actual position, and (b.) deconstruct the false one, or at the very least state the misrepresentation.
But you're not doing that.
My original point:
Trump needed Russia's help to win the election. BUT that doesn't mean that he worked with them. It just means that he needed their help.
Your strawman: Your argument is that Russia colluded.
No. Try again.
Is Trump "literally Hitler?" <-- Heard it 24/7 nonstop for four years straight. Nothing odd about this.
Who are you listening to? What are you watching?
And lastly, do you honestly expect me to believe that?
As IF a Trump supporter is going to watch mainstream media more than for a few minutes a day. Forget it. Second, it wasn't on 24/7. What I think may have happenned is you found a cool Ben Shapiro video where he found the 4 times a news anchor said "Trump is literally Hitler" with ominous music and poor lighting.
 
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Sorry, but I’m not spending hours going through Freshman link dumps. When you can come up with a coherent narrative, let me know. Otherwise you got nothing.

Too much evidence for you to even read. I understand completely.
 
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Did you actually read the Time article? No, you never got past the sensational headline. The “conspiracy” was a campaign to ensure a fair uncorrupted election.

You are making my case for me, LOL. Sleep on it and read your own links before posting.

Thank you for your admission. Checkmate. :sunglasses:
 
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Too much evidence for you to even read. I understand completely.
You go through it and give us the narrative. Make your case. Here’s your chance. Go do it. The link dumps are waiting for you. Get five Red Bulls and go for it.

Good night.
 
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That's funny, I never cited those links.

Here Is The Evidence

^ Needs time to load because of, you know, so much evidence.

Who checks the fact-checkers?
ROFL!!! HAHA.
Oh man. I had butterflies in my stomach for a second that hey....maybe there is something legitimate I haven't seen.
Just for a second I thought that.

Then I thought:
1) But why didn't they bring it to the court?
2) But the COMPENTENT legal team was not swayed by this evidence
3) But it's youtube
4) But a grainy video of a truck is seen as verifiable evidence of 64G ballots getting tossed out.

And then, just before I clicked the link I remembered what constituted evidence.

And then I saw the page and I remembered......"that's right. The legal team...."
 
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Please. I'd LOVE to see evidence!

I just posted evidence. You ignored it as I predicted.

Are you arguing the cop WAS NOT killed?

I'm pointing to the cause of death your side chose to rush to conclusions about. Soldier addressed this already earlier in the thread above.

I apologize. I'm used to teaching junior high behaviour and learning disabled kids.

Apology accepted. When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. Or in your case, a Jr. High behavior/learning disabled child.

It's both. These hard revolutionaries think they are revolutionaries (ie. terrorists but obviously they would NEVER call themselves that...they "amurican Heroes"). Clearly the 6th showed that they truely are only LARPers. See, just because someone is TERRIBLE at what they do, doesn't mean they aren't that thing.

You're simply contradicting yourself if you claim they're both serious and pretending at the same time.

No. But since I'm a simple man; could you tell me where the goalposts started and where I moved them to? That'll help me understand your position a bit better.

Thank you for your admission.

"Collusion" ≠ mere foreign interference. Your actual target was Trump colluding with Russia. Not Russia itself! If you can't keep track of the thread, then I strongly suggest you take a time-out.

It was all about "collusion" from day 1. Historical revisionism won't change that.

And lastly, do you honestly expect me to believe that?

Not really. You can't reason with someone that's so dogmatic they'll literally believe any authority figure that enables their own confirmation bias.

What I think may have happenned is you found a cool Ben Shapiro video where he found the 4 times a news anchor said "Trump is literally Hitler" with ominous music and poor lighting.

Shouldn't that news anchor be fired, or do you believe Trump is literally Hitler?
 
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1) But why didn't they bring it to the court?

Because it was dismissed due to "lack of standing." Doesn't sound fair to me, but you'll gladly accept it without question.

2) But the COMPENTENT legal team was not swayed by this evidence

You mean the opposition. So, of course not. But they weren't allowed to debate it either. That doesn't seem to trouble you.

3) But it's youtube

Genetic fallacy. You're arguing to the content host, instead of the content itself.

Teachers who work with troubled kids have to have college degrees, right? You really should know better.

4) But a grainy video of a truck is seen as verifiable evidence of 64G ballots getting tossed out.

A college graduate should know what corroborating evidence is.

And then, just before I clicked the link I remembered what constituted evidence.

Your confirmation bias?
 
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Turns out he can get others to shoot people just outside the capitol building and get away with it.

Who was "shot" outside the capitol building? And did they actually testify that Trump told them to pull the trigger? Or is this just more hyperbole?
 
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Thank you for your admission.

"Collusion" ≠ mere foreign interference. Your actual target was Trump colluding with Russia. Not Russia itself! If you can't keep track of the thread, then I strongly suggest you take a time-out.

It was all about "collusion" from day 1. Historical revisionism won't change that.

Believing your own side’s narrative about what the Mueller Investigation was really about, is cute and all, but the facts remain that it was the Trump Administration that began it, Mueller is a lifelong Republican, appointed by Rod Rosenstein another GOP guy.

The Deep State was proven not to exist otherwise it’d’ve nailed Trump when it had the chance, President Trump was only a victim of his own paranoia.
 
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Believing your own side’s narrative about what the Mueller Investigation was really about, is cute and all, but the facts remain that it was the Trump Administration that began it, Mueller is a lifelong Republican, appointed by Rod Rosenstein another GOP guy.

Because it began at the Steele dossier. Well that, and your blind Trump hatred looking for a crime to validate it.

The Deep State was proven not to exist otherwise it’d’ve nailed Trump when it had the chance, President Trump was only a victim of his own paranoia.

Where's the collusion? I guess it magically disappeared. Along with all the other fake accusations lobbed at Trump.
 
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Believing your own side’s narrative about what the Mueller Investigation was really about, is cute and all, but the facts remain that it was the Trump Administration that began it, Mueller is a lifelong Republican, appointed by Rod Rosenstein another GOP guy.

The Deep State was proven not to exist otherwise it’d’ve nailed Trump when it had the chance, President Trump was only a victim of his own paranoia.

And why is it so important to accept your narrative? Is it because you never had evidence?
 
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