Biden orders air strike - Congress was not consulted

chevyontheriver said:

I enjoy seeing the double standard being revealed.

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Were we supposed to allow Iranian backed Syrian militias to launch missiles at US compounds in Iraq and not respond? I supported Trump's decision to strike at targets is Syria because of the gas attacks on Syrian citizens. That attack, though one would think it as morally correct, was not an attack on US compounds, as were the recent attacks in Iraq

Yarddog said:

Were we supposed to allow Iranian backed Syrian militias to launch missiles at US compounds in Iraq and not respond? I supported Trump's decision to strike at targets is Syria because of the gas attacks on Syrian citizens. That attack, though one would think it as morally correct, was not an attack on US compounds, as were the recent attacks in Iraq

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I think the point is more about the fact when people complain that congress wasn't informed - when they aren't in power - it wasn't said in principal. It was meant to stir the pot. Both sides do this. They all need to drop the line about what leadership should look like, and act like what leadership looks like. Congress doesn't show themselves as the sharpest knife in the drawer IMO.

I mean I saw a headline the other day in which people were encouraging Biden to give up the nuke codes, and hand that off to congress. I don't agree with that at all. Congress has shown for a couple of administrations that they can't decide how to climb out of a paper bag - let alone be quick and decisive enough to make decisions like this latest attack. lol they can only handle finding the nearest camera to tell the world how MEAN the other side is, and tell you that they 'hate' this, that or the other.

Yarddog said:

Were we supposed to allow Iranian backed Syrian militias to launch missiles at US compounds in Iraq and not respond? I supported Trump's decision to strike at targets is Syria because of the gas attacks on Syrian citizens. That attack, though one would think it as morally correct, was not an attack on US compounds, as were the recent attacks in Iraq

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Foreign policy SHOULD be non-partisan but these people do the same things they complain about the other guys doing. They are exposed hypocrites. But most politicians are.

chevyontheriver said:

Foreign policy SHOULD be non-partisan but these people do the same things they complain about the other guys doing. They are exposed hypocrites. But most politicians are.

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Yes, people are hypocrites. Dems and Pubs complain about each other doing the same thing.

hislegacy said:

But here we are - our citizens are dead. Are you saying the proper response to them being murdered it to turn and leave?

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I don't like to nitpick, but according to the news reports I've read the US contractor that was killed was not a US citizen. Not that my position would be different if he was.

Also, killing enemies on the battlefield is not, whatever else it is, murder. Not unless one is a pacifist, and then Biden's airstrike is just as much murder.

I am puzzled as to why you're asking me this; I already gave you an answer in plain English. If your concern is harm coming to US troops, the solution is to get them out of harm's way. Frankly, they had no business there in the first place.

hislegacy said:

BTW, I am with you and the former President on pulling our troops out of Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Just playing devil's advocate then?

SoldierOfTheKing said:

I don't like to nitpick, but according to the news reports I've read the US contractor that was killed was not a US citizen. Not that my position would be different if he was.

Also, killing enemies on the battlefield is not, whatever else it is, murder. Not unless one is a pacifist, and then Biden's airstrike is just as much murder.

I am puzzled as to why you're asking me this; I already gave you an answer in plain English. If your concern is harm coming to US troops, the solution is to get them out of harm's way. Frankly, they had no business there in the first place.



Just playing devil's advocate then?

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I think the problem is that America cannot simply up and leave at the drop of a hat. We left iraq back in 2011 and it created a power vacuum in which ISIS formed. In which case, America had no choice but to return, as ISIS was a major international threat.

So the withdrawal has to be gradual and methodical.

I think people tend to forget that our troops were withdrawn from Iraq after the invasion against Saddam. But the region was so unstable that it mandated return.

I think that one thing our nation and european nations can do to detach ourselves from middle east chaos, is to become energy independent. Oil Imports from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, and even Iran for those who accept it, are all imports that force us to stay involved, militarily, in middle eastern affairs.

KomatiiteBIF said:

I think the problem is that America cannot simply up and leave at the drop of a hat. We left iraq back in 2011 and it created a power vacuum in which ISIS formed. In which case, America had no choice but to return, as ISIS was a major international threat.

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ISIS was never a threat to the United States.