question for Trump supporters, Is Liz Cheney a warmonger?

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I probably should try this on another website but I would like to know what Trump supporters think of Liz Cheney.

My impression is that a lot of them noticed that Trump spent some amount of time bashing Obama, and Bush -- as part of the swamp problem. Contrasting their failures to his successes and then the theory is that people in that group sometimes called "never trumpers" simply had an axe to grind.
 
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I probably should try this on another website but I would like to know what Trump supporters think of Liz Cheney.

Trump supporters interpret "Trump supporter" as one who upholds the Constitution and opposes Globalism (one-world government).

Trump haters interpret "Trump supporter" as literally, and not figuratively, National Socialist.

Please clarify.
 
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Trump supporters interpret "Trump supporter" as one who upholds the Constitution and opposes Globalism (one-world government).

Trump haters interpret "Trump supporter" as literally, and not figuratively, National Socialist.

Please clarify.

Which part of the Constitution was being upheld when the Trumpist terrorists attacked the Capitol building on January 6th?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Which part of the Constitution was being upheld when the Trumpist terrorists attacked the Capitol building on January 6th?

-CryptoLutheran

Since your leftist cancel-culture restricts any legal right to petition for redress of grievances (i.e. voter fraud), some sincerely see this as Jefferson's "Tree of Liberty" quote coming to fruition. One man's "terrorist" is another man's "revolutionary."

Oh, and just because one day invading "the Capitol building" is not an excuse to push a legal double-standard on attacking other federal buildings, like what happened across 8 entire months in the previous year.

But I suppose it's only terrorism when Trump-supporters do it. Right?

Violence is not the answer, but it's not an excuse to hypocrisy, either.

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Since your leftist cancel-culture restricts any legal right to petition for redress of grievances (i.e. voter fraud), some sincerely see this as Jefferson's "Tree of Liberty" quote coming to fruition. One man's "terrorist" is another man's "revolutionary."

Oh, and just because one day invading "the Capitol building" is not an excuse to push a legal double-standard on attacking other federal buildings, like what happened across 8 entire months in the previous year.

But I suppose it's only terrorism when Trump-supporters do it. Right?

Violence is not the answer, but it's not an excuse to hypocrisy, either.

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Your meme has a few inaccuracies. Surprise. She received a sentence four times the norm for possession of explosives and weapons, not the bombing. And the fundraising organization is no longer connected with BLM.
Re: Jan. 6, 2021:
This was the first time in American history a mob of our fellow citizens overran the U.S. Capitol in an effort to overturn the results of a free and fair election. It was also the first time such an assault had been inspired by the sitting president of the United States.
 
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Since your leftist cancel-culture restricts any legal right to petition for redress of grievances (i.e. voter fraud),

Actually, that legal right has been exercised, over 50 times, in many different jurisdictions. Since there was no evidence of widespread fraud, the plaintiffs did not get the specific redress they wanted.

Unfortunately for them, that right doesn't come with a guaranteed outcome.

-- A2SG, happens that way sometimes.....
 
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Actually, that legal right has been exercised, over 50 times, in many different jurisdictions. Since there was no evidence of widespread fraud, the plaintiffs did not get the specific redress they wanted.

Unfortunately for them, that right doesn't come with a guaranteed outcome.

-- A2SG, happens that way sometimes.....
Actually its over 60 courts that rejected some aspect of The Big Lie.... but who's counting......
 
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My impression is that a lot of them noticed that Trump spent some amount of time bashing Obama, and Bush -- as part of the swamp problem. Contrasting their failures to his successes and then the theory is that people in that group sometimes called "never trumpers" simply had an axe to grind.

What does that have to do with Liz Cheney?


Which part of the Constitution was being upheld when the Trumpist terrorists attacked the Capitol building on January 6th?

-CryptoLutheran


What does that have to do with Liz Cheney?

Since your leftist cancel-culture restricts any legal right to petition for redress of grievances (i.e. voter fraud), some sincerely see this as Jefferson's "Tree of Liberty" quote coming to fruition. One man's "terrorist" is another man's "revolutionary."

Oh, and just because one day invading "the Capitol building" is not an excuse to push a legal double-standard on attacking other federal buildings, like what happened across 8 entire months in the previous year.

But I suppose it's only terrorism when Trump-supporters do it. Right?

Violence is not the answer, but it's not an excuse to hypocrisy, either.

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What does that have to do with Liz Cheney?

Your meme has a few inaccuracies. Surprise. She received a sentence four times the norm for possession of explosives and weapons, not the bombing. And the fundraising organization is no longer connected with BLM.
Re: Jan. 6, 2021:
This was the first time in American history a mob of our fellow citizens overran the U.S. Capitol in an effort to overturn the results of a free and fair election. It was also the first time such an assault had been inspired by the sitting president of the United States.


What does that have to do with Liz Cheney?

Actually, that legal right has been exercised, over 50 times, in many different jurisdictions. Since there was no evidence of widespread fraud, the plaintiffs did not get the specific redress they wanted.

Unfortunately for them, that right doesn't come with a guaranteed outcome.

-- A2SG, happens that way sometimes.....


What does that have to do with Liz Cheney?

Actually its over 60 courts that rejected some aspect of The Big Lie.... but who's counting......


What does that have to do with Liz Cheney?

HisLegacy (thought it was interesting that 6 of 12 posts don't have anything to do with Liz)
 
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BobRyan said:
My impression is that a lot of them noticed that Trump spent some amount of time bashing Obama, and Bush -- as part of the swamp problem. Contrasting their failures to his successes and then the theory is that people in that group sometimes called "never trumpers" simply had an axe to grind.

What does that have to do with Liz Cheney?

It is possible that many suppose that any insult paid to the Bush-Cheney administration would be taken "as a bad thing" by Liz Cheney - given that she is the elder daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney

So then her own constituent support has now plummeted to near the 13% level in Wyoming after having censured her for joining with democratic politicians in condemning the President who apparently still has a 95% approval rating with them.

What makes me curious is how one might suppose that all this linkage would no get noticed by Republicans?
 
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Which part of the Constitution was being upheld when the Trumpist terrorists attacked the Capitol building on January 6th?

-CryptoLutheran

The part where Trump told them not to do that sort of thing but instead to peacefully and patriotically march.

The part where they were gathering at the whitehouse BEFORE and DURING Trumps speach - not even listening to it.

the part where antifa was trying to break glass while trump supporters were shouting "antifa! antifa" and a maga-hat guy was trying to wrestle the antifa glass-breaker guy to the ground.
Video Shows Trump Supporters Attempting to Stop People from Breaking into the Capitol

Notice how the Trump supporters in the crowd begin to cheer when the Antifa guy is being taken down by a maga guy?

hmm videos not available at CNN

IGNORED BY THE MEDIA ELITES AND FBI: List of 20 Individuals at the Capitol on January 6th - All Appear to be Connected to Antifa or Far Left Groups

So what is "This" video - on Twitter?
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1349885882262761473?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1349898603620429826|twgr^|twcon^s3_&ref_url=https://www.independentsentinel.com/hey-doj-cnn-might-have-colluded-with-antifa-at-the-capitol/

I am pretty sure people are still out there asking CNN not to let them see these videos.
 
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Since your leftist cancel-culture restricts any legal right to petition for redress of grievances (i.e. voter fraud), some sincerely see this as Jefferson's "Tree of Liberty" quote coming to fruition. One man's "terrorist" is another man's "revolutionary."

Oh, and just because one day invading "the Capitol building" is not an excuse to push a legal double-standard on attacking other federal buildings, like what happened across 8 entire months in the previous year.

But I suppose it's only terrorism when Trump-supporters do it. Right?

Violence is not the answer, but it's not an excuse to hypocrisy, either.

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ok good points all - but I have to say that one good thing is that the left "Suddenly gets a conscience" on the subject of rioting. During the impeachment trial a lot of videos came up where the left was defending mob violence that was going on week-after-week month-after-month and most Americans were like "whaaaat??".

Now suddenly the left is convinced that mobs are bad and police are needed ...

Wow what a difference an election can make!!
 
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It's hard to comment on a term like "warmonger" which, although often used, isn't well defined.

As far as Liz Cheney is concerned, there are some facts that people need to know before deciding.

First, the foreign policy dispute between Ms. Cheney and a whole array of Republican leaders goes back a number of years and is not just something that popped up when she cast her vote against the President during the recent impeachment doings.

More to the point, she supported the Iraq War (of course), but she also spoke out against President Trump removing troops from Iraq more recently, did so again when he lowered troop levels in Afghanistan, did so again when President Trump announced he wanted to withdraw troops from Syria. More recently, Trump called off a proposed airstrike on Iran, citing concern over the civilian casualties that would be involved. Cheney opposed him on that.

In addition, Cheney has opposed any lowering of our troop levels in non-war zones such as Germany, saying that we never know when a war might break out.
 
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Trump supporters interpret "Trump supporter" as one who upholds the Constitution and opposes Globalism (one-world government).

Trump haters interpret "Trump supporter" as literally, and not figuratively, National Socialist.

Please clarify.
This is really odd. You create your own definitions for things and ask someone ELSE to clarify? It seems you are labouring with overly complex ideas that truly don't require clarity, but to help:

Trump Supporter: A person who supports Trump and his policies.
 
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Oh, and just because one day invading "the Capitol building" is not an excuse to push a legal double-standard on attacking other federal buildings, like what happened across 8 entire months in the previous year.

But I suppose it's only terrorism when Trump-supporters do it. Right?

Violence is not the answer, but it's not an excuse to hypocrisy, either.

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Don't talk to you about it?
Pffft. Lighten up.
If her sentence was commuted by Bill Clinton, she at least served some prison time.

I'm going to talk to you about January 6. And it should be rubbed in your faces until you recognize it for what it is: An attack on American Democracy.


Since your leftist cancel-culture restricts any legal right to petition for redress of grievances (i.e. voter fraud), some sincerely see this as Jefferson's "Tree of Liberty" quote coming to fruition.
1)"leftist cancel culture". Pull your head out. It was your COURTS that decided that.
If you don't like American courts, find a system that fits your seat better. Perhaps Russian courts?

It's kinda funny to me really. Courts have been punishing blacks far harsher than whites for decades. Whites start losing cases around elections and bam.....time to over throw the government.
One man's "terrorist" is another man's "revolutionary."
Boy oh boy do I LOVE how the right is justifying terrorism now. And I'm not at ALL surprised that with all of the wargame LARPing, that of COURSE they have to glorify themselves as revolutionaries because they aren't going to call THEMSELVES terrorists.

Gone are the days America had to worry about external threats.

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NOW you have one lying president and that's all it has taken. Well, that and Russia; whether they were in league with each other is irrelevant. Russia influenced the election, whether you choose to accept it or not.
 
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