The church must be catholic!

Jaxxi said:

The Vatican has a shrine to satan in the catacombs. The auditorium of the Vatican looks like the face of a snake. The pope sits on a chair with an inverted cross and the pope is changing the ways of the church to accept homosexuals and the nativity scene this year was an abomination and demonic in nature.

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From where do you get this information?

Thomas White said:

From where do you get this information?

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I would like to see the proof too. If it is from an accuser who is in the habit of making things up, then one need not research it to know it is false.

Revelation 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Daniel Marsh said:

I would like to see the proof too. If it is from an accuser who is in the habit of making things up, then one need not research it to know it is false.

Revelation 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

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I always enjoy conspiracy theories - the stranger the better.

Jaxxi said:

The Vatican has a shrine to satan in the catacombs. The auditorium of the Vatican looks like the face of a snake. The pope sits on a chair with an inverted cross and the pope is changing the ways of the church to accept homosexuals and the nativity scene this year was an abomination and demonic in nature.

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and there are aliens living there too.

concretecamper said:

and there are aliens living there too.

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Yes, with three heads, two tails, and a banana in each of their nineteen hands.

Thomas White said:

From where do you get this information?

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I pay attention to what the "church" is doing. It is not a secret or a " conspiracy theory". They are just facts. Why do you doubt my words? I would never come on here and blatantly lie about such serious claims.

concretecamper said:

and there are aliens living there too.

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See my follow up post. Your comment is the only one that is not true.

Daniel Marsh said:

I would like to see the proof too. If it is from an accuser who is in the habit of making things up, then one need not research it to know it is false.

Revelation 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

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Is that right? See my follow up post. I resent your insinuation as it is entirely untrue. I never make a claim that I cannot back up.

bbbbbbb said:

I always enjoy conspiracy theories - the stranger the better.

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Conspiracy theory? Is it a conspiracy when it is all true? What is it called then?

Thomas White said:

From where do you get this information?

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And another thing. This statue is at the Vatican. What Godly wholesome Christlike loving depiction do you think this is of? Is this how Catholics envision the Resurrection? With our Lord Jesus Christ surrounded and being touched by demons? That is the best depiction they could come up with on an enormous scale?

Jaxxi said:

And another thing. This statue is at the Vatican. What Godly wholesome Christlike loving depiction do you think this is of? Is this how Catholics envision the Resurrection? With our Lord Jesus Christ surrounded and being touched by demons? That is the best depiction they could come up with on an enormous scale? View attachment 295218

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What is depicted is not the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but the resurrection of the dead at the final Day. This is a very common theme throughout Christian iconography.

bbbbbbb said:

What is depicted is not the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but the resurrection of the dead at the final Day. This is a very common theme throughout Christian iconography.

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Funny that it is called " Resurrection" then isn't it?

bbbbbbb said:

Yes, with three heads, two tails, and a banana in each of their nineteen hands.

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Make fun all you want but your statements are the only ones that are not true.

bbbbbbb said:

I always enjoy conspiracy theories - the stranger the better.

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Where is the conspiracy? How is any of what I said not true? You need to rethink the way the Catholic religion is coming across because from where I am sitting it looks strange.

Jaxxi said:

Where is the conspiracy? How is any of what I said not true? You need to rethink the way the Catholic religion is coming across because from where I am sitting it looks strange.

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I don't know where you are sitting, but I grew up in a seriously Catholic city. We were not Catholics and I am still no friend of that denomination, as various folks on this thread well know. However, I am quite aware of the serious lies and libel that has been flowing from both sides of the divide. If you want to know more about the Catholic Church and its errors I highly recommend that you study the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Reading the Bible is also very helpful, especially the part about not bearing false witness against your brother.

bbbbbbb said:

I don't know where you are sitting, but I grew up in a seriously Catholic city. We were not Catholics and I am still no friend of that denomination, as various folks on this thread well know. However, I am quite aware of the serious lies and libel that has been flowing from both sides of the divide. If you want to know more about the Catholic Church and its errors I highly recommend that you study the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Reading the Bible is also very helpful, especially the part about not bearing false witness against your brother.

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Bearing false witness is going to court and claiming you be saw something that you didn't or being someone's alibi when they were not with you or saying you are a victim when you are not. I provided evidence to my claims as so as where is the problem? You wanted proof and I gave it to you. I read my Bible. The Vatican is doing questionable things. That is a fact. It is not our fault if these things border on being highly unholy. It does not mean that Catholicism is bad, but it does mean by that we need to discern what is being blatantly portrayed as Christian when it looks anything but.

Jesus coming will be the most glorious moment of our life! No pictures can do justice but I think the images should depict happy and glorious, not gloom and doom. I also don’t understand why Jesus would be deformed (according to the photo posted previously)

Jaxxi said:

Funny that it is called " Resurrection" then isn't it?

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Do you know why they would depict Jesus as being deformed?

imge said:

Do you know why they would depict Jesus as being deformed?

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First, Jesus is not depicted at all in the sculpture. This is about the resurrection of the dead from the graves. Hence, there are skulls and bones all over the place. They are just beginning to regain flesh and blood. The central figure is the first person in the cemetery to get his body resurrected.

Second, it is essentlal to understand that Christianity is based on the hope of resurrection and that all will be raised from the grave - some to eternal life in heaven, but the vast majority to eternity in the Lake of Fire which burns forever and ever.

bbbbbbb said:

First, Jesus is not depicted at all in the sculpture. This is about the resurrection of the dead from the graves. Hence, there are skulls and bones all over the place. They are just beginning to regain flesh and blood. The central figure is the first person in the cemetery to get his body resurrected.

Second, it is essentlal to understand that Christianity is based on the hope of resurrection and that all will be raised from the grave - some to eternal life in heaven, but the vast majority to eternity in the Lake of Fire which burns forever and ever.

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Who is in the middle of the sculpture than?

Do you not think God is powerful enough to have people rise “whole” and not scattered body parts? We are given new bodies according to scripture. Also, God is a God of love and burning forever in hell is not love. There is scripture that supports the unsaved will not burn forever in hell. Either will the devil, they will die and be no more. I’ll provide scripture to support this a little latere when I have time, have to run for now. God bless.