Is Pope Francis Sympathetic to the Universal Basic Income Concept?

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40 to 50 % of young kids need to learn trades and/or other marketable skills not taking art classes or criminal justice.

for years expensive colleges and guidance counselors told kids to follow their dreams. Following ones dreams is a nice thing but learning how to support yourself is more important.

The whole concept of UBI is a disaster waiting to happen. Look at the mess the government has made out of the distribution of the Covid vaccine and they are going to run a trillion dollar economy.
 
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40 to 50 % of young kids need to learn trades and/or other marketable skills not taking art classes or criminal justice.

I'm hoping the pendulum swings back in that direction. The great lie, one that I believed for a time, is that everyone in our society needs to have a "higher education". I always thought it was important because people ought to know history, literature, philosophy, etc. And I still think they do, it's true, but now I wouldn't want them to learn that from your average university because they're not teaching an honest version of those subjects. Critical Race Theory has distorted all of them to make them "racist", "sexist", or some other condemnable quality.

So in that sense nowadays I think the line from Good Will Hunting rings true: “You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library.”

The university system was only ever meant to prepare a select few because their gifts and callings required that kind of intellectual formation (i.e. they were a gifted and charismatic orator with a knack for policy and who had a noble desire for public service, then going to Harvard made sense because it completed their cultivation as a future leader of this country). They were the best of the best.

Now our universities have turned into propaganda factories that society wants to pass every single young adult through for indoctrination. Which is why they have an ever-expanding list of degrees like Underwater Basket Weaving and Gender Studies (gag).

I hope we return to a more balanced society wherein a small minority of the population attends four-year institutions and the rest ply trades or, if for women, stay home to raise their families. I firmly believe if we returned to the pre-sexual revolution social structures that our society would stabilize in a profound way.
 
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I'm hoping the pendulum swings back in that direction. The great lie, one that I believed for a time, is that everyone in our society needs to have a "higher education". I always thought it was important because people ought to know history, literature, philosophy, etc. And I still think they do, it's true, but now I wouldn't want them to learn that from your average university because they're not teaching an honest version of those subjects. Critical Race Theory has distorted all of them to make them "racist", "sexist", or some other condemnable quality.

So in that sense nowadays I think the line from Good Will Hunting rings true: “You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library.”

The university system was only ever meant to prepare a select few because their gifts and callings required that kind of intellectual formation (i.e. they were a gifted and charismatic orator with a knack for policy and who had a noble desire for public service, then going to Harvard made sense because it completed their cultivation as a future leader of this country). They were the best of the best.

Now our universities have turned into propaganda factories that society wants to pass every single young adult through for indoctrination. Which is why they have an ever-expanding list of degrees like Underwater Basket Weaving and Women's Studies (gag).

I hope we return to a more balanced society wherein a small minority of the population attends four-year institutions and the rest ply trades or, if for women, stay home to raise their families. I firmly believe if we returned to the pre-sexual revolution social structures that our society would stabilize in a profound way.



We learned a lot about history and culture in high school. But things have changed. As a kid in the Boston public schools we had to take music classes, geography, history. In fact in the 4th grade the entire years history was dedicated to the American revolution and culminated with a field trip to walk the Freedom trail in Boston. We saw Paul Revere's house and the Old North church , the Kings chapel and famous burial grounds. It was an all day affair. I even boarded the USS Constitution.

Now the kids do nothing.
 
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We learned a lot about history and culture in high school. But things have changed. As a kid in the Boston public schools we had to take music classes, geography, history. In fact in the 4th grade the entire years history was dedicated to the American revolution and culminated with a field trip to walk the Freedom trail in Boston. We saw Paul Revere's house and the Old North church , the Kings chapel and famous burial grounds. It was an all day affair. I even boarded the USS Constitution.

Now the kids do nothing.

Exactly! The curriculum itself has been corrupted, they're so distracted by this politically correct nonsense that they've stuffed the lesson plan with that at the expense of real knowledge. Now you have a whole generation who can't even run their own dishwasher let alone tell you about Lexington and Concord.

I have to say man, I'm supremely jealous you've been on the Constitution. My dad and I were supposed to come back to Boston in 2016 since the Giants were making a rare trip to Fenway, and while we were there I really wanted to see Old Ironsides. Never made the trip, his hip issue flared up real bad and I called off the trip for his sake. Now that I'm living on this side though I'll have to make my way up there, maybe this summer!
 
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Exactly! The curriculum itself has been corrupted, they're so distracted by this politically correct nonsense that they've stuffed the lesson plan with that at the expense of real knowledge. Now you have a whole generation who can't even run their own dishwasher let alone tell you about Lexington and Concord.

I have to say man, I'm supremely jealous you've been on the Constitution. My dad and I were supposed to come back to Boston in 2016 since the Giants were making a rare trip to Fenway, and while we were there I really wanted to see Old Ironsides. Never made the trip, his hip issue flared up real bad and I called off the trip for his sake. Now that I'm living on this side though I'll have to make my way up there, maybe this summer!




Let me know!
 
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There's actually lots to be said for a modified universal basic income program economically but for our purposes, within Catholic thought.

Where it would fit in is in the discussion of increasing automation in the future that removes many jobs. That's a looming problem. And we're going to have to balance Catholic answers versus those who want the answer to be less people.

Like East said though we are losing skilled trade and we need people to go into those fields. I see a good bit of that in the homeschool community as well as traditional higher education. In our area we do have a lot of programs that teach kids the beginning of skilled trade.

We have strong entry points for carpenters, welders, jewelers, mechanics, plumbers, and dozens of others. There are places where young people can learn the trades. But it's an anomaly compared to many places in the country. It lies at a weird intersection. We are basically a rural area, with a large major university, and with a large homeschool population. It has led to an interesting balance in many forms of education and a rebirth of trade learning that works in cooperation with the resources the university brings through the area. this can happen because those trades have been kept alive here by the community. So we have accomplished professionals who can take on apprentices as well as instruct others.
 
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