20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine
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Jesus has already accomplished more than enough to imprison him and take his goods into his household.
Eph 2
So then you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household,
Act 26
16 But get up and stand on your feet; for this purpose I have appeared to you, to appoint you as a servant and a witness not only to the things in which you have seen Me, but also to the things in which I will appear to you, 17 rescuing you from the Jewish people and from the Gentiles, to whom I am sending you, 18 to open their eyes so that they may turn from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who have been sanctified by faith in Me.’
19 “For that reason, King Agrippa, I did not prove disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20 but continually proclaimed to those in Damascus first, and in Jerusalem, and then all the region of Judea, and even to the Gentiles, that they are to repent and turn to God, performing deeds consistent with repentance. 21 For these reasons some Jews seized me in the temple and tried to murder me. 22 So, having obtained help from God, I stand to this day testifying both to small and great, stating nothing but what the Prophets and Moses said was going to take place, 23 as to whether the Christ was to suffer, and whether, as first from the resurrection of the dead, He would proclaim light both to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles.”
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To be His faithful people, living in all of the holy Land.
Just as the Prophets tell us:
Jeremiah 32:37-40 I shall gather My people from all the lands where they now live......I will make an everlasting Covenant with them, it will be a joy for Me to do them good.
Ezekiel 37:26 [After the Spiritual regeneration and the rejoining of the tribes] I shall make an everlasting Covenant with them, for their peace and prosperity and their numbers will greatly increase. I will put My Sanctuary in their midst, where it will remain for all time.
Sure He has, but He has allowed Satan to deceive people and to take control of peoples lives, of those who sin and choose to let him in.
We know from Revelation 20:1-3, that Satan will be chained up after Jesus Returns.
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Through his defeat, Satan fell from heaven (John 12:31 & Revelation 12:7-9) and is now present in the Abyss (Revelation 9:1-11 & Revelation 20:3). The abyss is not a physical geographical place. After all, physical metal chains cannot hold spirits. It is a spiritual state of restraint for spirits now. Near the end, the beast will be released from his restraints and the “deadly wound” to his head will be “healed” (Revelation 13:3, 13:12 and 13:14). This tells us that he too was bruised like Satan’s head through the life, death and resurrection of Christ.
Just like Satan’s power and influence were curtailed through the life, death and first resurrection of Christ, so too was the beast’s. The fate of the two mirror each other. The reason is, the beast is dependent upon the power of Satan to do his evil. The beast is his envoy or enforcer. At the end Satan will be released from his restraint to empower the beast to subjugate the Church, curtail the Gospel expanse and deceive the nations again.
When Satan is released before the second coming for a little season then so is the beast, and Satan's minions. We see the devils in Revelation 9:2-3, the beast in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, Revelation 11:7 and Revelation 17:8, and Satan in Revelation 9:10-11 and Revelation 20:3 all being released before the second coming for a little season. Then comes the end! But Christ comes in majestic and eternal glory to overthrow the kingdom of darkness forever. The demonic realm is all killed when Satan is destroyed at the climactic second coming (Isaiah 26:19-27:1, 2 Thessalonians 2:8, Revelation 19:20, 20:9-10).
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Hebrews 8
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Christ said "a New Covenant", which made the first old.
The first covenant was made old at Calvary.
The first covenant could not have been made old without the New Covenant.
The event at which the first covenant was made old, was the same as the event about which He said, a New Covenant.
That event was Calvary, at which the first was made old by the New.
The New was made, and thereby the first was made old.
One event, two accomplishments.
Scriptural, simple, Sunday School 101.
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Why not? Jesus came to save individuals. He will make a New Covenant with our nation when it is established. Isaiah 62:1-5, Romans 9:24-26
As you and those who like to believe in the NC now, can't agree on exactly when it was made and none of you can demonstrate the fulfilment of Hebrews 8:10-12, then the fact is: We await the great time when all the Lord's faithful Christian people are gathered into all of the holy Land.
Another Prophecy proof of this is found in Isaiah 55:3 & 12-13
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It is clear to all: he is totally avoiding the evidence being presented because it negates his position.
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It appears that you have forgotten to include some important verses that come before and after your stated verses of only 10-12 as a requirement for proof. Yet, I don't see where it is so important to you as to the precise moment when Jesus' New Covenant went into effect. The fact is that it IS in effect whether or not you accept it or not simply because it does not fit into your preconceived ideas about it. There is sufficient evidence in the OT promises that point forward to the NC being instituted to satisfy the vast majority of born-again Christian -- with the exception of those whose hearts are hardened to the truth of God's Word.
Heb 8:8-13
8)For [Jesus] finds fault with [the Old Covenant] when he says:
"The days will come, says the Lord, when I will establish a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah; 9)not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; for they did not continue in my covenant, and so I paid no heed to them", says the Lord.
10)This is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 11)And they shall not teach every one his fellow or every one his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for all shall know me, from the least of them to the greatest. 12)For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more." (Jer 31:31–34 )
13)In speaking of a new covenant [Jesus] treats the first as obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
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I knew someone would think that I avoided the context of Isaiah 55.
I merely pointed out the salient verses and I expected people to read the whole chapter. The context does NOT obviate the truth, plainly the New Covenant will be made when all those who seek the Lord will be living in the fruitful holy Land.
Hebrews 8:13 does not say when the NC will be made.
I agree that the Old Covenant was obsolete after the Cross.
I laugh at the desperate clutching at straws I see from people here.
I suppose you have to do it because to be wrong in one belief, that puts into question all of your other beliefs.
The big failing with most wrong beliefs, is the lack of understanding of God's Plans and Purposes for mankind.
Is it for us to go to heaven and strum harps? NO, we are made to live on the earth and we never leave it. Eventually God comes to live here too, Revelation 21:1-7
God wanted a people in His special area; the holy Land, who would be His witnesses and His Light to the nations. Who could those people be? John 15:27, Matthew 5:14-16 Christians!
the holy Land is our heritage and we will live there. Galatians 3:29, Colossians 1:12 THEN, the Lord will make a Covenant with us.
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Keras, I have only one more question for you and then I am done with you forever....WHY ARE YOU HERE??
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My given task is to is point out to whoever who will listen, what the Prophetic Word actually says. Or doesn't say, as the case may be.
I have intensively studied all of the Bible and what I post is always scripturally supported. If it doesn't suit your beliefs, then at the very least, you know there is alternative belief out there.
I oppose any false theories and fanciful notions.
Doesn't it cause any concern to you when you are unable to provide a verse proving the New Covenant now?
Will you leave this discussion because it's just too hard and not possible for you to change?
At present, since the Cross; we are under God's grace.
When we live in the holy Land; great will be that time, then the Lord will make a new Covenant with all His people. A Covenant for our peace and prosperity, Ezekiel 37:26, and our part will be to keep faithful and trust in Him, which will be much easier for us when the prophesies of Hebrews 8:10-12, are fulfilled.
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At present , since the cross , we are under Gods grace ...
invited to enter into a new covenant relationship with him through the blood of his cross.
When we repent and are baptized , we shall receive his Holy Spirit and enter into our part of this new and wonderful relationship.
God bless
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Hebrews 8:13 declares that the old covenant was obsoleted, but it doesn't mention grace.
Instead, it mentions the New Covenant.
Why does it mention the New Covenant instead of grace?
If the writer meant grace, he would have used the word. It appears seven times throughout Hebrews.
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Do you think if you keep stating this inaccuracy that it will suddenly become true? The fact is: everyone else is saying the same thing, and articulating the biblical truth: the new covenant relates to the eternal blood sacrifice made on behalf of the elect of God by Jesus Christ on the cross.
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All this I agree with. We WILL enter a new Covenant relationship with Jesus.
THEN: We will have His Laws written in our hearts, He will be our God and we will be his special people in the new nation of Beulah, we all will know the Lord is a very personal way and He will forgive our sins and remember them no more.
Plenty of other NT scriptures confirm we are under His grace for now.
We await the proper time for the New Covenant to be made.
Again, I agree with this. Just that it hasn't happened yet.
Why do people here ignore prophesies like Isaiah 33:24, Ezekiel 57:26, Jeremiah 32:37-40, + ? We know that the Lord's holy people are present in the holy Land when the leader of the One World Govt takes over Beulah for his 42 month time of world control. Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13:7
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The old covenant was obsoleted. It doesn't await anything, because it hasn't existed since Calvary.
It was obsoleted by the New Covenant, according to Hebrews 8:13.
Hebews 8:10-13 is a cohesive passage.
If there is any doubt about the timing of the New Covenant in Hebrews 8:10-12, it is resolved in Hebrews 8:13.
"Hath" is an extant reality.
Something which existed could not be obsoleted by something which did not exist.
The existing old covenant could only be obsoleted by an existing New Covenant.
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Who ever was Gog and Megog? The Bible seems to point to nameless rebels on the fringes of society who were hired by other nations as warriors. They may as well be representative of uncivilized outcast.
There have been billions throughout history. What is your point? Do you pick on the homeless because they cannot fit into society?
Why do you keep saying, "your supposed". Can you not read Revelation 20, or do others read it for you, so you do not have to claim it? God's Word is making the claim; you seem to exaggerate in some mocking way, is clearly there in black and white.
All humans born are freely allowed to rebel or change their minds. You claim you have changed your mind, why make a big deal about it? Should you have been forced to think the same way your whole life?
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