Take Heed That No Man Deceive You.

Berean Tim · Feb 15, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
What Holy place will there be to stand in at the end of the age?

Note Jesus didn't use the normal word for Temple. Paul also in 2nd Thessalonians 2 used a word that just means holy place not necessarily the Temple, it could be translated as shrine. I suspect in a messianic fever the Jews will build one, possibly only a tent like Moses tent or place a rebuilt ark to sit in the Dome of the Rock. The "man of sin" as Paul calls him will stop that practice and demand worship as god or death, the AOD

Timtofly · Feb 15, 2021

Berean Tim said:
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days" the days of the AOD and the great tribulation during this time. Again, didn't happen during the destruction of the Temple in 70AD

The days of the AOD are not the tribulation of those days. The second coming is prior to the Trumpets and the 7th Trumpet is when the AOD occurs.

Berean Tim · Feb 15, 2021

Timtofly said:
The days of the AOD are not the tribulation of those days. The second coming is prior to the Trumpets and the 7th Trumpet is when the AOD occurs.

I was quoting Jesus. He said Jesus spoke of Tribulation that you must endure until the end. So, flee when you see the AOD. Those are exactly the days He was speaking of in Matt 24:29

Timtofly · Feb 15, 2021

Berean Tim said:
I was quoting Jesus. He said Jesus spoke of Tribulation that you must endure until the end. So, flee when you see the AOD. Those are exactly the days He was speaking of in Matt 24:29

I know. Jesus in Matthew 24 tells things in reverse order. The AOD is the last event, but Jesus places it first in His account.

Berean Tim · Feb 15, 2021

Timtofly said:
I know. Jesus in Matthew 24 tells things in reverse order. The AOD is the last event, but Jesus places it first in His account.

What ? The AOD starts the tribulation. The coming of the Lord and our gathering (Rapture) is after those days. Then the wrath of God starts in the Trumpets and Bowls

Oseas · Feb 15, 2021

.JESUS said: Matthew 28:v.18
All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Although our Lord JESUS be still invisible, that does not prevent Him from executing His Word as He said: Matt.25:31-34 and 41:

31 When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels with him(angels like the angels of the Churches of Asia), then shall he sit upon the throne of His glory:(2Corinthians 5:v.10-Check it).

32 And before Him shall be gathered all nations: and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

41 Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels:(Revelation 12:v.7-9 and 2 Corinthians 11:v.13-15-Check it out)

Be careful or get ready.

keras · Feb 15, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
What Holy place will there be to stand in at the end of the age?

The new Temple in Jerusalem, as described in Ezekiel 40-46.
Built by the Christian peoples, as seen there by John in Revelation 7:9.

Berean Tim · Feb 16, 2021

Oseas said:
.JESUS said: Matthew 28:v.18
All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Although our Lord JESUS be still invisible, that does not prevent Him from executing His Word as He said: Matt.25:31-34 and 41:

31 When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels with him(angels like the angels of the Churches of Asia), then shall he sit upon the throne of His glory:(2Corinthians 5:v.10-Check it).

32 And before Him shall be gathered all nations: and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

41 Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels:(Revelation 12:v.7-9 and 2 Corinthians 11:v.13-15-Check it out)

Be careful or get ready.

Although our Lord JESUS be still invisible, that does not prevent Him from executing His Word as He said: Matt.25:31-34 and 41:

Why do you say He'll be invisible ?
Matthew 24:
30Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Revelation 1:
7Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wailb on account of him. Even so. Amen.

31 When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels with him(angels like the angels of the Churches of Asia), then shall he sit upon the throne of His glory:

Why are they like the 7 Angels of the 7 churches of Asia ?
In Revelation Jesus dictates letters to the Angels, in Matthew He brings them with him.

Mr. M · Feb 16, 2021

keras said:
The new Temple in Jerusalem, as described in Ezekiel 40-46.
Built by the Christian peoples, as seen there by John in Revelation 7:9.

Ezekiel 40:
1 In the twenty-fifth year of our captivity, at the beginning of the year, on the tenth day of the month, in the fourteenth year after the city was captured, on the very same day the hand of the Lord was upon me; and He took me there.
4 And the man said to me, Son of man, look with your eyes and hear with your ears, and fix your mind on everything I show you; for you were brought here so that I might show them to you. Declare to the house of Israel everything you see.

Ezekiel's vision is presented with precise measurements to the house of Israel in captivity so that a
repentant people could return and rebuild. What other basis could there be to expect Ezra and Co
to build a temple?

Ezra 7:11 This is a copy of the letter that King Artaxerxes gave Ezra the priest, the scribe, expert in the words of the commandments of the Lord, and of His statutes to Israel:

If they failed to attain to the glory being restored to the temple, on what basis are you claiming that this
temple was intended to be built in the end times? It is clear from the New Testament that the Lord is
now building a New Jerusalem in the Spirit, and that the body of Christ is participating in the construction
of that city and temple. Why on earth would Christian peoples build Ezekiel's temple vision on earth?

Mr. M · Feb 16, 2021

Matt5 said:
Jesus says, don't be deceived. You say, don't be deceived. Thanks but how does one avoid being deceived? Well, don't be deceived.

Avoid any teaching based on theories and suppositions which add or take away from what is written.
Revelation 22:
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book:
If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away
his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

The blessing is for those who watch and pray. Keep the Words and ponder them in your heart,
even as it was said of Mary.
Luke 2:19. But Mary kept all these things and pondered them in her heart.
Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy,
and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.

Mr. M · Feb 16, 2021

If there was no abomination of desolation leading up to the tribulation and destruction
of the temple in 70 A.D., why does the Lord condemn the house of Israel for doing so.

Ezekiel 44:
6 Now say to the rebellious, to the house of Israel, Thus says the Lord God: O house of Israel,
let Us have no more of all your abominations.
7 When you brought in foreigners, uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in
My sanctuary to defile it—My house—and when you offered My food, the fat and the blood,
then they broke My covenant because of all your abominations.
8 And you have not kept charge of My holy things, but you have set others to keep charge
of My sanctuary for you.
9 Thus says the Lord God: No foreigner, uncircumcised in heart or uncircumcised in flesh, shall
enter My sanctuary, including any foreigner who is among the children of Israel.

Berean Tim · Feb 16, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
If there was no abomination of desolation leading up to the tribulation and destruction
of the temple in 70 A.D., why does the Lord condemn the house of Israel for doing so.

Ezekiel 44:
6 Now say to the rebellious, to the house of Israel, Thus says the Lord God: O house of Israel,
let Us have no more of all your abominations.
7 When you brought in foreigners, uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in
My sanctuary to defile it—My house—and when you offered My food, the fat and the blood,
then they broke My covenant because of all your abominations.
8 And you have not kept charge of My holy things, but you have set others to keep charge
of My sanctuary for you.
9 Thus says the Lord God: No foreigner, uncircumcised in heart or uncircumcised in flesh, shall
enter My sanctuary, including any foreigner who is among the children of Israel.

Why is this 70 AD ?
Remember Matthew 24:29-31“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken 30Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mr. M · Feb 16, 2021

Berean Tim said:
Why is this 70 AD ?

My bad. What I meant to say is that Ezekiel describes abominations pertaining to the Sanctuary
and the first temple very specifically in chapter 44.
Did this not happen prior to the second temple destruction?
Doesn't a second tribulation and temple destruction fulfill Isaiah 40?
I still don't get how there could be a holy place to defile in the end times.
You pointed out the possibility of a shrine or tent set up by zealous Messianics.
My question is how would that be Holy?

Oseas · Feb 16, 2021

Berean Tim said:
Although our Lord JESUS be still invisible, that does not prevent Him from executing His Word as He said: Matt.25:31-34 and 41:

Why do you say He'll be invisible ?
Matthew 24:
30Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Revelation 1:
7Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wailb on account of him. Even so. Amen.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that Day shall not come, except there come a falling away FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 2 Thessalonians 2:v.3-4

1 Thessalonians 4:v.15-16
15 For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise FIRST: - Daniel 12:v.1-3 - check it out

Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days- Day 1,335-
Why is blessed he who waits and comes to the Glorious, Ineffable, Unspeakable DAY 1,335? or 45 days after 1,290 days?

See below the events which will happen from now on.

Here goes a list of events or happenings that will precede the resurrection of the dead, and of the coming of the LORD:

- Death of Pope Francis; (this must happen soon)

- The Beast of the earth-earth is Israel-the clay-Isaiah 64:v.8- the dry land-Genesis 1:v.9-, with two horns LIKE A LAMB rises up in Israel; - Revelation 13:v.11

- Election of the a new Pope – his nickname may be Pope Paulus VII;

- Then the Beast of the earth LIKE A LAMB manifest himself as GOD in Israel; in fact a false messiah, an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah; - John 5:v.43-47

- The esoteric and kabblistic, and spiritist Beast of the earth makes great signs and wonders of lie, even makes fire come down to the earth before men;

- The Pope Paulus VII will meet the Beast like lamb;

- Both will develop a union between the Roman Catholic Church and Judaism, iron with clay - Daniel 2:v.41-43- but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay;

- A religious and universal satanic Empire will be build by both religious leaders; Rev.11:v.1-2;

- The esoteric and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast of the earth will make a deal with the Beast of sea, and he will give to the Beast of sea his Power, and his Throne, and great Authority - Revelation 13:v.2 - . The Antichrist's Empire is conceived by both Beasts. There will be TWO BEASTS in the Earth very soon;

All events or happenings listed above, some will will happen before starting the last week-Daniel 9:v.27-, others during the week as soon it starts, and others in the middle of the week and until the end;

There will be resurrection before JESUS coming;

And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. - Rev. 11:v.15;

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath -GOD's WRATH-is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth;

- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NOTE: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

- Until this current time, the prophetical last week – Daniel 9:v.27 have not started yet, OK?

- A sequence of events will push the world direct to the last week from now on;

- On that occasion both Beasts WILL MAKE A DEAL who will FIRST rule the religious and universal Empire, the Antichrist's Empire, by the way, it will be the FIFTH and LAST universal Empire of the Devil. According Scriptures who will rule the FIRST half of the last week-Daniel 9:v.27- is the Beast of sea (the Beast of the waters-Revelation 13:v.5 & 17:v.15-check it out).

- Again: Once the DEAL BE CONCLUDED, who will rule FIRST the religious AND UNIVERSAL Antichrist’s Empire is the Pope, the Beast of sea, according to the prophecy-Revelation 13:v.5 & 7 & 15. By the way, it will be the elected NEW Pope, even him who will replace Pope Francis, whose nickname may be called Paulus VII;

- The date and the ceremony of enthronement of the FIRST RULER and GUIDE of the religious and satanic Empire of Antichrist will be combined and determined between both Beasts. After the enthronement's ceremony, THEN the FIRST 42-month period of the LAST WEEK, or three years and half, begins to be counted.

- Having ended the first 42-month period, imediately the Beast like a lamb, a false lamb, a false messiah, the ESOTERIC/KABBALIST/ SPIRITIST and RUTHLESS messiah of the Jews will be enthroned as the ruler of the satanic Antichrist's Empire by 1.290 days, and the Abomination of Desolation will sit in the Holy Place, Who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sits in the temple of GOD, shewing himself that he is GOD.

- Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. The day 1.335 is the day of JESUS's return. Alleluia! - The millenial God's Kingdom begins;

- Satan is laid hold, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and deceives the wholeworld, he will be bound a thousand years into the bottomless pit, and will be shut up, and a seal put in him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled:

To the only Wise God our Savior, be Glory and Majesty, Dominion and Power, both now and ever. Amen.

Timtofly · Feb 16, 2021

Berean Tim said:
What ? The AOD starts the tribulation. The coming of the Lord and our gathering (Rapture) is after those days. Then the wrath of God starts in the Trumpets and Bowls

That is not the reverse order of Matthew 24.

Berean Tim · Feb 17, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
My bad. What I meant to say is that Ezekiel describes abominations pertaining to the Sanctuary
and the first temple very specifically in chapter 44.
Did this not happen prior to the second temple destruction?
Doesn't a second tribulation and temple destruction fulfill Isaiah 40?
I still don't get how there could be a holy place to defile in the end times.
You pointed out the possibility of a shrine or tent set up by zealous Messianics.
My question is how would that be Holy?

The word Paul uses can be shrine or holy place. Mecca is called a holy place but they doesn’t mean it is. Same could be said for a Buddhist temple and many others. Just because the word holy is used doesn’t make it so. Probably why Paul used a different word where the man of sin will take his seat and demand worship

Berean Tim · Feb 17, 2021

Timtofly said:
That is not the reverse order of Matthew 24.

Not sure what you mean

Oseas · Feb 17, 2021

~~~~~~~THE LAST DECADE - COUNTDOWN~~~~~~~

02-17-2021 is the FORTY EIGHTH DAY of the LAST DECADE of the Devil's world.

The LAST WEEK - Daniel 9;v.27 - is within of this LAST DECADE.

Be careful and get ready

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by Him) and LORD of lords
Fellow in Christ
Oseas

Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, ... Luke 13:v.24-25

Oseas · Feb 18, 2021

Minister Monardo said:
Ezra 7:11 This is a copy of the letter that King Artaxerxes gave Ezra the priest, the scribe, expert in the words of the commandments of the Lord, and of His statutes to Israel:

If they failed to attain to the glory being restored to the temple, on what basis are you claiming that this temple was intended to be built in the end times? It is clear from the New Testament that the Lord is now building a New Jerusalem in the Spirit, and that the body of Christ is participating in the construction of that city and temple. Why on earth would Christian peoples build Ezekiel's temple vision on earth?

In that I agree with you. Your interpretation is true. What matters is the Truth, only and only the Truth of God. I liked your reply.

The true Christians are the temple of God, as said Paul Apostle to the Christians of the Church which was at Corinth: 1 Cor. 3:v.16- 17:
- 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
- 17 - If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. - Hallelujah!!! -

1 Cor. 6:v.19-20
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Revelation 11:v.19
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. - Wonderful !!! Wonderful!!! When or in which moment will we be living and seeing this great and wonderful event? The answer is in Revelation 11:v.15-18

Revelation 21:v.22
22 And I saw no temple therein -temple made with hands- : for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the Temple of it.

To the only Wise God our Savior, be Glory and Majesty, Dominion and Power, both now and ever. Amen.

The Word is God.

John 2:v.18-21
18 Then the Jews said unto JESUS, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. (The third Day arrived. We are living in the beginning of the third Day)

20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21 But he spake of the temple of His body. - The Church -

Timtofly · Feb 18, 2021

Berean Tim said:
Not sure what you mean

There were 3 questions. When will the temple be destroyed? When is the second coming? When is the end of the world?

The first answer was the end of the world. The Abomination of Desolation marks the end (of the world), not the second coming. The second coming still happens prior to the Abomination of Desolation. Up to verse 22, Jesus is still talking about the end. Then in verse 23 starts answering about the second coming, but that does not mean the second coming is after the end. Jesus was just answering in reverse order of the questions.

Jesus never answers when the Temple is destroyed.

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