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Time to leave the Shadows dear friend.
I am in his shadow my friend. His shadow points to him. To turn from his shadow is to turn from him.
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Time to leave the Shadows dear friend.
Time to leave the Shadows dear friend. As posted in the last post Jesus is our true sacrifice for sin. We are in the new covenant now not the old covenant. This is what the animal sacrifices all pointed to and were prophesying of. Did you read the scriptures in the previous post? John 1:29; 36; Hebrews 10:10; *1 Corinthians 5:7-8; Matthew 26:2; Hebrews 10:1-18. Lets add some more; John 3:16; 1 John 2:2; Romans 5:8; Hebrews 9:12-14; 1 Timothy 2:5; John 14:6; Ephesians 5:2; Hebrews 2:17; Hebrews 10:12-14; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 9:28; Ephesians 1:7; Philippians 2:17; Hebrews 9:26; Hebrews 10:1. Read the scriptures shared with you here dear friend
Hope this is helpful
I haven't seen the verse where Paul makes that claim. Saying "it's in there," doesn't cut it. I believe that you are taking Paul out of context. Again, I don't believe that Paul was a false teacher, a heretic, who would contradict YHWH himself.
(CLV) Jer 33:18
As for the Levitical priests there shall not be cut off a man from before Me who offers up the ascent offering and fumes the approach present and offers sacrifices for all the days.
(CLV) Jer 33:19
The word of Yahweh came to Jeremiah, saying,
(CLV) Jer 33:20
Thus says Yahweh: If you could annul My covenant with the day and My covenant with the night so that daytime and night fail to come about in their proper time,
(CLV) Jer 33:21
then also My covenant could be annulled with David My servant, so that he should not come to have a son reigning on his throne, and that with the Levites, the priests, My ministers.
To annul the eternal covenant with the Levites is to reject Yahshua as the rightful King.
I reject any such notion.
Paul told his disciples to keep Christ as their Passover **1 Corinthians 5:7-8; Matthew 26:2; John 1:29; 36. Time to leave the shadows dear friend. We are in the new covenant now not the old covenant.So why did Paul tell his disciples to continue to honor Passover; and why did Paul continue to make sacrifices?
I don't believe that Paul was a hypocrite, who was leading his disciples away from Messiah.
How do you explain the animal sacrifices that will be made during the Millennial Reign? Is it your understanding that all animal sacrifices are for the remission of sin? If so, you might want to do a little study on this topic.
Hope this is helpful.
Your quoting old testament scripture read the post you are quoting from. Micro-quoting cannot help you here dear friend. I posted you the scriptures so why leave them out pretending I did not post Hebrews 7:1-25 in regards to the change of Priesthood?
I'm quoting prophecy that has not yet completely unfolded.
If you back up just one chapter is evident. I didn't tell you to read the whole book of Jeremiah in a wall of text; then say "I hope this helps." For the sake of relevance and brevity, I posted the verses that were pertinent.
(CLV) Jer 32:32
because of all the evil of the sons of Israel and the sons of Judah that they have done to provoke Me to vexation, they, their kings, their chief officials, their priests and their prophets, even the men of Judah and the dwellers of Jerusalem.
(CLV) Jer 32:33
They are turning around the nape of their neck to Me and not their face, though I taught them, rising early and taught them again, yet there are none of them hearkening to take admonition.
(CLV) Jer 32:34
They placed their abominations in the house over which My Name is called, to defile it.
(CLV) Jer 32:35
And they built the high-places of Baal which are in the ravine of the son of Hinnom, to have their sons and their daughters pass through fire for Molech (which I did not instruct them, nor did it come up on My heart), to do this abhorrence that it may cause Judah to sin.
(CLV) Jer 32:36
Now therefore thus says Yahweh, Elohim of Israel, as to this city of which you are saying, It is given into the hand of the king of Babylon by sword and by famine and by plague:
(CLV) Jer 32:37
Behold, I shall convene them from all the lands where I have driven them away in My anger and in My fury and in great wrath, and I will restore them to this place and make them to dwell in serenity.
(CLV) Jer 32:38
They will become My people, and I shall become their Elohim.
(CLV) Jer 32:39
I will give them one heart and one way to fear Me all their days, for good to them and to their sons after them.
(CLV) Jer 32:40
I will contract with them an eonian covenant, from whom I shall not turn back; I will do good to them. And I shall bestow the fear of Me in their heart so as not to go away from on Me.
When did this happen?
There was a "change" in the Priesthood. Actually the word can be more accurately rendered as "transferred." Yahshua is our High Priest. The High Priesthood was transferred from Zadokites to Yahshua. The Levitical Priesthood is set apart from the Zadokite Priesthood. Thus, the words of YHWH and his prophets are true.
I hope this helps.
Hmmm nope. You did not read my posts did you. It is ok I did not think you did when you were making claims earlier that were not true in regards to the change of Priesthood in regards to Hebrews 7:1-25. Your pretty much repeating yourself here HARK! without addressing any of the scriptures in my earlier posts that disagree with you. Of course you are free to believe as you wish. Time to leave the shadows dear friend. Why live in the shadows when you can live in His arms? Sorry dear friend I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Thanks for the discussion though and the opportunity to share God's Word.
Let's leave it for others to prayerfully decide...
Since you seem to be dodging the question; the answer is, it didn't.
I hope that helps you with your timeline.
P.S.
No matter what time it is, forever still means forever.
YHWH does not lie.
Your not being honest now dear friend or perhaps you did not read my posts. I choose to believe the second as I hope and do not think you would be intentionally choose to be dishonest. You did not ask any questions that I am aware of that I did not answer with the scriptures that were shared with you. Like for example the change of the Priesthood you accused me earlier of not quoting scripture in a post you micro-quoted me stopping just short of the scripture provided in Hebrews 7:1-25 when the scriptures were not not only already there but all through the post you were micro-quoting from (highlighted in red in a previous post). Anyhow perhaps the lesson here is perhaps you should take the time to carefully read others posts and scriptures shared with you before responding and fully quote what they say to you rather then selectively micro-quote out of context. Anyhow all good. I enjoyed the conversation and the opportunity to share Gods' Word with you. What you choose to do with God's Word I will leave between you and God. Thanks for the discussion
I generally don't read through a wall of text,
Well there you go. I did no think you read my posts either from the responses I was getting back from you. Thank you for being honest. It explains a lot. Perhaps as posted earlier you should spend some time to consider what others are saying before posting as it makes for a better discussion rather then disagreeing and not being able to show why you disagree and trying to make arguments no one is talking about. I do not have a double standard of what "forever" means so no nonsense please. I use the bible as my standard, which is God's Word not mine. It is God's Word (not mine) as posted earlier that says in Hebrews 10:1-17 that God's "shadow laws" for remission of sins are now fulfilled in Christ and and continued in him (forever) based on better promises *Hebrews 8:1-6. Time to leave the shadows dear friend. Jesus who those "shadows" point to has now arrived. Have a read of Hebrews 7 to 10. You will be blessed I am sure.
Something to pray about I guess.
All of YHWH's Moedim are to be honored forever.
See: Exodus, Leviticus, and Numbers.
Sin is transgression of the Torah.
See: 1John
Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers are Torah.
Yahshua and his disciples are not in rebellion to YHWH's word.
You can get back to me when you're done reading all that I have to say in those books.
Indeed dear friend what did you think I said.
Please read my post your responding to before posting it would be very helpful to the conversation.
No one keeps the old covenant annual Feast days today according to the Torah so please do not pretend that you do.
You do not make animal sacrifices for sin,
neither do you have a Levitical Priest and there is no earthly Sanctuary to keep the annual Feast days of the old testament.
You cannot separate animal sacrifices and sin offerings from the Levitical Priesthood, Feast days and the earthly Sanctuary in the old covenant dear friend.
You cannot separate animal sacrifices and sin offerings from the Levitical Priesthood
Paul taught his disciples that Jesus is now our Passover who is sacrificed for us *1 Corinthians 5:7-8
once and for all *Hebrews 10:10.
This means there is no more animal sacrifices today as these "shadow laws" for remission of sin *Hebrews 10:1-17
This means there is no more animal sacrifices today as these "shadow laws" for remission of sin *Hebrews 10:1-17
There is no Passover without animal sacrifices and no one keeps the old testament Passover without animal sacrifices and sin offering
*Exodus 12:1-11; 27; 43; 48; Exodus 34:25; Numbers 9:2-14; Numbers 28:16-20; Deuteronomy 16:1-5; 2 Chronicles 35:6-19. Are you still making animal sacrifices with a Levitical Priest and an earthly Sanctuary? - Again Nope! Then your not keeping the annual Feast days according to Torah!
The good news however as posted earlier is that today we do not have to practice these animal sacrifices and sin offerings because we are in the new covenant now and not the old covenant based on better promises *Hebrews 8:1-6.
The good news however as posted earlier is that today we do not have to practice these animal sacrifices and sin offerings because we are in the new covenant now and not the old covenant based on better promises *Hebrews 8:1-6.
These same laws are continued in Christ who is our true Passover *1 Corinthians 5:7-8; Matthew 26:2
Hebrews 10:10 in which these "shadow laws" *Hebrews 10:1-17 all pointed to and are continued in based on better promises *Hebrews 8:1-6.
When did I say that he wasn't? Do you believe that he annulled the Father's eternal covenant with the Levitical Priesthood.There has been a change in the Priesthood dear friend *Hebrews 7:1-28. Jesus is now our great High Priest
Time to leave the shadows.
You seemed to have ignored this or not read this post for some reason. Now what is it that you disagree with in the scriptures shared with you dear friend?
Said about what?
I went back and took a closer look. It lead to a bunch of dead ends, misattributions, verbosity fallacies, poor hermeneutics, and additions and subtraction of what scripture actually says. It wasn't a convincing case. Let alone the faulty premise, right out of the gate.
How so?
I'm not a Levitical Priest
How do you keep the Sabbath without a Priest to make a sacrifice?
No sequitur. How exactly do sin sacrifices equate to keeping YHWH's Shabbats and Moedim?
What would make you believe that the Zadok Priesthood and Yahshua are the Levitcal Priesthood?
Did you miss this part?
(CLV) 1Co 5:8
so that we may be keeping the festival, not with old leaven, nor yet with the leaven of evil and wickedness, but with unleavened sincerity and truth.
(CLV) Hb 10:10
By which will we are hallowed through the approach present of the body of Jesus Christ once for all time.
Do you know the difference between an approach present and a sin offering? If so, please explain the difference.
Can you show me where Hebrews 10 speaks of shadow laws? I don't see it in my literal translation. Is it possible that someone has added or subtracted from scripture in your translation?
Again I can't find "shadow laws" in Hebrews 10.
Do you understand the difference between an animal sacrifice for sin and Yahshua's approach present? If so, please explain.
Can you show me where Moses, and all of Israel, and the mixed multitude all made sin offerings on the Passover in Egypt?
Are you keeping the Sabbath according to the Torah, as described during the Tabernacle period, or the temple period? If so; where can I find a practicing Levitical Priesthood who accepts Yahshua as Messiah? If not; then why do you bother to keep the Sabbath? For that matter, you can't keep the Sabbath without a Levitical Priesthood in place; why bother to keep any of YHWH's word?
Were none of the Apostles in the renewed covenant; as they continued to keep YHWH's Moedim while the Temple was standing?
So why did the Apostles continue to practice them, so long as the temple was standing?
That's not what my literal translation says. Can you tell me exactly what translation you are quoting?
Pointed? That's past tense; and as we know the law stands forever.
Let's look at this verse more carefully.
(CLV) Hb 10:1
For the law, having a shadow of the impending good things, not the selfsame image of the matters, they, with their same sacrifices which they are offering year by year, are never able to perfect to a finality those approaching.
He doesn't say that the law is a shadow. He says that the law has a shadow of what is to come. What is to come is in the future. All has not been fulfilled.
When did I say that he wasn't? Do you believe that he annulled the Father's eternal covenant with the Levitical Priesthood.
Yes or no?
If you are leaving the Torah's shadow of good things to come; I'll keep you in prayer. I won't turn my back on YHWH's commandments.
I don't disagree with scripture, It seems that your faulty translation does.
Brother, thank you for helping me see more with the Day of Atonement. Now watch me use what I learned to help my people understand the Sabbath that our prophetess prepared us to know.Posting random scripture doesn't help to prove your assertion.
Thank you for stating your position so clearly. Did you know that God has opposed that thought on the only passage in God's word where the start and end of the Sabbath is mentioned? The Day of Atonement begins in the middle of the ninth day and ends in the middle of the tenth day, 10 hours before the local tenth day of the week like all other Sabbaths remembered in Israel on the Eden time zone. If we used your defense forcing God to say what He chose not to say above capping the end of the first day in a "morning" and not an "evening", it would begin at the start of the ninth day and end at the start of the tenth day which is clearly incorrect because the Day of Atonement is the tenth day of the month and not the ninth."from (start of) evening to (start of) evening" = Evening and morning.
Brother, thank you for helping me see more with the Day of Atonement. Now watch me use what I learned to help my people understand the Sabbath
Thank you for stating your position so clearly. Did you know that God has opposed that thought
The Day of Atonement begins in the middle of the ninth day and ends in the middle of the tenth day, 10 hours before the local tenth day
If we used your defense forcing God to say what He chose not to say above capping the end of the first day in a "morning" and not an "evening", it would begin at the start of the ninth day and end at the start of the tenth day