Is the mark of the beast going to be about the papacy changing the day of the Sabbath?

pittsburghjoe said:

Do you know what the 10 Commandments are?

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They are required to be kept according to the words of Christ.

pittsburghjoe said:

Vicarius Filii Dei ..the substitution of the Son of God? The nerve of the papacy to give this title to the pope.

They used their authority to change God's Holy Day to the first day of the week? Who thought this was a good idea?

Saturday is God's Devine signature of Creation. It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible we can modify the Ten Commandments.

Isaiah 58:13
If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy day of the LORD honorable, and shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words, B3 14 then you shall delight yourself in the LORD;

The papacy that started in Rome did not have Peter sitting in the seat. Anyone can claim Peter as the first of their own organization. It's just another trick.

The little horn on the first beast ends up being the papacy.

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Consider that the flesh is the beast. The flesh must be tamed by the illumination of Jesus The Christ.

pittsburghjoe said:

Vicarius Filii Dei ..the substitution of the Son of God? The nerve of the papacy to give this title to the pope.

They used their authority to change God's Holy Day to the first day of the week? Who thought this was a good idea?

Saturday is God's Devine signature of Creation. It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible we can modify the Ten Commandments.

Isaiah 58:13
If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy day of the LORD honorable, and shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words, B3 14 then you shall delight yourself in the LORD;

The papacy that started in Rome did not have Peter sitting in the seat. Anyone can claim Peter as the first of their own organization. It's just another trick.

The little horn on the first beast ends up being the papacy.

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The sabbath was made for man, not for God. God seeks those who will worship Him in spirit and in truth, not according to a now redundant set of rules. Now it is sensible and wise to set aside one day a week to have a real break from work. If people do not, they will suffer physically and mentally. But not observing the sabbath is not a sin.

Do you know what it means not to work on the sabbath? Try reading what modern Jewish scholars have to say. One I read said that cutting a fingernail was unacceptable. He also said that boiling a kettle was work but drinking water was not. He even had instructions on when you could pluck out a hair on the sabbath. When you put yourself under the law, you are bound to observe it to the ultimate degree. If you do not, you are sinning. Then keeping the law becomes pointless.

Christians are those led by the Spirit. Paul followed the law to perfection, as far as was humanly possible. He failed. What hope has anyone else got? If you put yourself under the law, you disqualify yourself from receiving grace. That does not mean you lose your salvation. It does mean a life of trying and failing to please God.

pittsburghjoe said:

Do you know what the 10 Commandments are?

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Is this a real question?

-CryptoLutheran

BNR32FAN said:

Where can I get one of these secret bible decoder rings?

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Okay what is your position on the forehead and hand?

If you got one I would be interested in hearing it.

Why does the SDA always forget about the Eastern Orthodox Church? I feel left out.

daydreameranastasia said:

Why does the SDA always forget about the Eastern Orthodox Church? I feel left out.

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Because the existence of Orthodoxy and Eastern Christianity in general is a gigantic plot hole in their conspiratorial fiction. And so have to be ignored or otherwise dismissed by brushing it aside somehow.

-CryptoLutheran

ViaCrucis said:

Because the existence of Orthodoxy and Eastern Christianity in general is a gigantic plot hole in their conspiratorial fiction. And so have to be ignored or otherwise dismissed by brushing it aside somehow.

-CryptoLutheran

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I think you’ve solved it, Crypto. I never feel left out when you’re in the chat lol

daydreameranastasia said:

Why does the SDA always forget about the Eastern Orthodox Church? I feel left out.

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The Eastern Orthodox Church is not in the SDA handbook for good reason. Return to the Pope and we will put you back into the SDA textbook. You have a big decision to make if you want to become relevant.

klutedavid said:

The Eastern Orthodox Church is not in the SDA handbook for good reason. Return to the Pope and we will put you back into the SDA textbook. You have a big decision to make if you want to become relevant.

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What?

klutedavid said:

The Eastern Orthodox Church is not in the SDA handbook for good reason. Return to the Pope and we will put you back into the SDA textbook. You have a big decision to make if you want to become relevant.

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Oh, you’re funny.

daydreameranastasia said:

Why does the SDA always forget about the Eastern Orthodox Church? I feel left out.

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Your origin is from the RCC as are most protestant denominations thus you are one of the daughters of the harlot in revelation.

So you are not left out you are included. Does that make you feel better now.


History of the Eastern Orthodox Church - Wikipedia
In the early medieval period, Orthodox missionaries spread Christianity towards the north, to the Bulgarians, Serbs, Russians and others. Meanwhile, a gradual process of estrangement took place between the four Eastern Patriarchates and the Latin Church of Rome, culminating with the Great Schism in the 11th century, in which Orthodoxy and the Latin Church (later called the Roman Catholic Church) separated from each other. In the Late Middle Ages, the Fall of Constantinople brought a large part of the world's Orthodox Christians under Ottoman Turkish rule.

Jipsah said:

You use a Sharpie

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Yeah...hopefully that washes off before Christ returns friend. Probably a good idea to stay away from any fraternity parties just to be on the safe side. Just sayin...

klutedavid said:

The Eastern Orthodox Church is not in the SDA handbook for good reason. Return to the Pope and we will put you back into the SDA textbook. You have a big decision to make if you want to become relevant.

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I’m quite confident that the EOC is most content with not being in the SDA textbook. Surely they would not want to tarnish their reputation by slandering the name Orthodox.

Original Happy Camper said:

Okay what is your position on the forehead and hand?

If you got one I would be interested in hearing it.

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Accepting any mark on the hand or forehead in order to be able to purchase items. If there’s ever a mark on the hand or forehead that we must have to purchase items then I will most definitely refuse it.

BrotherD said:

One one do a search on the "first day of the week" it is mentioned 8 times in the new testament but the "sabbath" is mentioned 55 times.

Jesus as his custom was observed the sabbath. Jesus had every opprtunity to change the day. He even had 40 days after his ressurection to change. After he ascended to heaven he did not tell Paul to change it because he observed the sabbath.

How we worship God matters. Look at Nadab and Abihu in Leviticus 10:1-2. 1 Kings 12:26-33 is a story of Jereboam changing Gods holy days. The whole book of Leviticus is very very detailed on how God wants to be worshipped.

We would do well to obey God. Think about it brother.

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How do you know Jesus didn’t change it???

Original Happy Camper said:

Your origin is from the RCC as are most protestant denominations thus you are one of the daughters of the harlot in revelation.

So you are not left out you are included. Does that make you feel better now.


History of the Eastern Orthodox Church - Wikipedia
In the early medieval period, Orthodox missionaries spread Christianity towards the north, to the Bulgarians, Serbs, Russians and others. Meanwhile, a gradual process of estrangement took place between the four Eastern Patriarchates and the Latin Church of Rome, culminating with the Great Schism in the 11th century, in which Orthodoxy and the Latin Church (later called the Roman Catholic Church) separated from each other. In the Late Middle Ages, the Fall of Constantinople brought a large part of the world's Orthodox Christians under Ottoman Turkish rule.

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lol the EOC and the RCC were part of the original church. They both split. The EOC didn’t come out of the RCC. How can the EOC be a daughter of the RCC if it was born at the same time as the RCC?
Man, the SDA...

daydreameranastasia said:

lol the EOC and the RCC were part of the original church. They both split. The EOC didn’t come out of the RCC. How can the EOC be a daughter of the RCC if it was born at the same time as the RCC?
Man, the SDA...

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Yes, the RCC, for its part, recognizes valid "Churchhood" in the EO, both having the same origins and histories to begin with, both having apostolic succession by any other name, both sharing virtually identical theology or doctrines on the most basic issues of our faith. And so, naturally, both sharing the same lived experience- or "Tradition"- involving the early focus on Sunday worship.

fhansen said:

Yes, the RCC, for its part, recognizes valid "Churchhood" in the EO, both having the same origins and histories to begin with, both having apostolic succession by any other name, both sharing virtually identical theology or doctrines on the most basic issues of our faith. And so, naturally, both sharing the same lived experience- or "Tradition"- involving the early focus on Sunday worship.

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Yeah I was trying to ask her how can the EOC be the daughter of the RCC when in reality they’re actually sisters.