The Great Second Exodus

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The great Second Exodus of God's people to the holy Land, is hard to believe for those who have other ideas about what they want God to do in the end times.
Not knowing just who God's people are today, thinking the Jews still are the 'chosen' people, is the great error of many.
WE Christians are the Israelites of God, His Victorious ones and the Promises of God to His Israelite Overcomers for Him, pertain to us. 2 Corinthians 1:20

The many prophesies that tell about the gathering of His people into all of the holy Land, soon after the Lord has cleared and cleansed that entire area, by His terrible day of fiery wrath; do mostly mention Israel or Israelites, which confuses people who wrongly think the Jewish State of Israel is the only Israel.
But prophesies like Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10, do not mention Israel, they DO support the truth that every faithful Christian will live in peace and prosperity in all of the holy Land during the end times. Also Romans 9:24-26 clearly states that Christians will be called the sons of the Living God, in the same place as ancient Israel was rejected. Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 5:9-10

Scriptural proofs that God’s holy people, the faithful Christians are living in the holy Land before Jesus Returns:

Revelation 13:7 He was allowed to wage war on Gods people and to defeat them....

As described in Zechariah 14:1-2 A day is coming that the Lord will allow armies to make war on Jerusalem and it will be conquered....... Half of the people will leave and half must remain.
These two groups of the Christian peoples are shown again in Daniel 11:32 and Revelation 12:14 and 17

Daniel 7:25 ....the holy people will be delivered into his power for 3½ years. Referring to the Anti-Christ leader of the One World Govt.

Daniel 11:27 and 2 Thessalonians 2:4 show that this must take place in the holy Land.
 

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All comes down to how you read and interpret said scripture. I myself dont see it like that.

Give the same passages to 10 people and you may very well get 10 different opinions / interpretations of that passage my friend.
 
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All comes down to how you read and interpret said scripture. I myself dont see it like that.

Give the same passages to 10 people and you may very well get 10 different opinions / interpretations of that passage my friend.
Plain Words have plain meanings.
God has told us His Plans for His people in these end times. Believe any other theory or doctrine and you will be deceived.
The fact of the many and varied opinions and beliefs abut what will happen soon, just shows how confused and in error people are today.
 
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Plain Words have plain meanings.
God has told us His Plans for His people in these end times. Believe any other theory or doctrine and you will be deceived.
The fact of the many and varied opinions and beliefs abut what will happen soon, just shows how confused and in error people are today.

Plain words that may very well be interpreted incorrectly..;)
 
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Plain Words have plain meanings.
God has told us His Plans for His people in these end times. Believe any other theory or doctrine and you will be deceived.
The fact of the many and varied opinions and beliefs abut what will happen soon, just shows how confused and in error people are today.
"The fact of the many and varied opinions and beliefs abut what will happen soon, just shows how confused and in error people are today."
And Christ's reply...
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. - Acts 1:7

It should be no big deal not to believe a teachers interpretation of the end time. I would think Isaac Newtons end time teachings would be closest. But many would disagree with me, which they would have the right to do.
 
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WE Christians are the Israelites of God, His Victorious ones and the Promises of God to His Israelite Overcomers for Him, pertain to us

Why couldn't it be both the historical people and the spiritual Israel? Romans 11.
 
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Why couldn't it be both the historical people and the spiritual Israel? Romans 11.
Yes, of course it is.
We are told that the people of God are from every tribe, [of Israel] every race, nation and language. Revelation 5:9-10
All the born again Christians.
 
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Yes, of course it is.
We are told that the people of God are from every tribe, [of Israel] every race, nation and language. Revelation 5:9-10
All the born again Christians.

So, you're saying it could be both? (Sorry, not trying to be annoying, but your response was ambiguous to my pea brain)
 
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So, you're saying it could be both? (Sorry, not trying to be annoying, but your response was ambiguous to my pea brain)
Yes, there are many thousands of Christian Jews.
Just like every other nation, some Christians, most not.

The Jewish State of Israel, is 52% atheist and only .05% Christian.
Also know that they represent just the 2 tribes of Judah and Benjamin. The other 10 tribes remain scattered among the nations.
 
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Yes, there are many thousands of Christian Jews.
Just like every other nation, some Christians, most not.

The Jewish State of Israel, is 52% atheist and only .05% Christian.
Also know that they represent just the 2 tribes of Judah and Benjamin. The other 10 tribes remain scattered among the nations.

Okay, so the answer is -> no. Only the spirtual Israel.
 
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At the great gathering into the promised Land, as described to us by the prophets, the Lord’s righteous people: every faithful Christian, will march proudly to music as they enter their heritage. Ephesians 1:10-14
Their Redeemer and Deliverer is waiting to show them His favor, He will guide and protect them, in the same manner as He did with their ancestors during the Exodus from Egypt. 1 Corinthians 10:1-5
The Land will blossom and flourish, Isaiah 35:1-10 and they will live there in peace and security, excepting for a 3½ year period of control by the Anti Christ.
After that will come the return of Jesus for His Millennial reign.

Isaiah 30:18 Yet the Lord is waiting to show you His favor, He yearns to have pity on you. Happy are those who wait on Him!

Ezekiel 20:34-38 By My strong arm and outpoured wrath, I shall bring you out from among the peoples and gather you from the lands where you have been dispersed. I shall bring you into a desert place and bring you into judgement, as I did with your ancestors out of Egypt. I shall pass you under the rod of judgement and count you as you enter Israel. Those who revolt and rebel against Me will not enter the Land.

outpoured wrath’ refers to the next prophesied event – the terrible Day of the Lord’s wrath and vengeance, that destroys His enemies and cleanses the Land by fire. The Christian Israelites will then march into and take over all that area promised, so long ago to Abraham.

Ezekiel 36:8 You: Land of Israel – grow your trees and yield your fruit, for the homecoming of My people, Israel, is near.

Micah 4:6 On that Day, I shall gather those who are lost, I shall assemble the dispersed.

Micah 2:12 I will assemble you, the whole House of Jacob. [now every faithful Christian] I will gather you together with those remaining in Israel and herd them like sheep in a fold.

Jeremiah 3:22 Come back, you apostate people and I shall heal you. Here we are, our God, we are coming back to You.

Jeremiah 31:8-9 See how I bring My people from the ends of the earth, a vast company – they come home, weeping and repentant. I shall comfort them and lead them on smooth paths.

Isaiah 43:19 I am about to do something new, can you see it? I will make a path for My people.

Isaiah 58:11 The Lord will guide you, He will satisfy your needs in the desert and give strength.

Isaiah 62:10 Pass through the gates, clear a road for My people and mark their way.

Isaiah 42:16 Without fail, I shall lead the blind and guide My people along paths unknown to them.

Psalms 68:7-9 The Lord, leading His people, marching through the desert- the earth shakes and rain pours down. Isaiah 44:3

Isaiah 30:29 For you there will be joyful singing, as you march into Israel, the Holy Land of God.

Isaiah 40:26-31 Lift your eyes to the heavens, consider your Creator, He leads His people out – each summoned by name, none are missing. He gives strength to the exhausted and those who look to Him will not faint, they march as on eagles wings.

Obadiah 19:21 My people will possess the Negev, Samaria, Northern and southern Jordan and all the coastlands of the Mediterranean.

Isaiah 49:8-11 The Lord says: In the time of My favor, on the Day of Deliverance, I will come to your aid, you are My people destined to be a light to the nations and to restore the Land. Go free now and in the Land you will find food and water in plenty. It will not be too hot when the One who loves them will guide them along highways.
My people, coming from all parts of the world, will shout for joy as they enter their Land. For God has comforted His people in their distress
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Reference REB. Some verses abridged.
 
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Plain Words have plain meanings.
God has told us His Plans for His people in these end times. Believe any other theory or doctrine and you will be deceived.
The fact of the many and varied opinions and beliefs abut what will happen soon, just shows how confused and in error people are today.
Including you.

We will be inheriting the new heavens and new earth. Inheriting the holy land is nothing compared to that. You have your eyes on the wrong prize.
 
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Jesus, Himself, led the second exodus (out of the slavery of sin). The first exodus that Moses led was only a shadow of what Jesus was to fulfill. Here's a comparison of what Moses did physically....and what Jesus did spiritually.

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Including you.

We will be inheriting the new heavens and new earth. Inheriting the holy land is nothing compared to that. You have your eyes on the wrong prize.
The Bible is very clear on when the New Heavens, earth and the New Jerusalem happen. AFTER the Millennium.

Why do you reject the prophesies I have presented? They show how God will at last; have a people in the holy Land, who will be His witnesses and His Light to the nations.
Jesus, Himself, led the second exodus (out of sin). The first exodus that Moses led was only a shadow of what Jesus was to fulfill. Here's a comparison of what Moses did physically....and what Jesus did spiritually.
Yes; we eagerly await our entry into the New Covenant Kingdom!

As sure as little green apples, it ain't here yet.
The world will be a very different place by then.
 
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Yes; we eagerly await our entry into the New Covenant Kingdom!
No.....there's no waiting involved. Jesus is the mediator of the New Covenant......which began nearly 2000 years ago.
 
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No.....there's no waiting involved. Jesus is the mediator of the New Covenant......which began nearly 2000 years ago.
How then do you explain these prophesies? :-

Scriptural proofs that God’s holy people, the faithful Christians are living in the holy Land before Jesus Returns:

Revelation 13:7 He was allowed to wage war on Gods people and to defeat them....

As described in Zechariah 14:1-2 A day is coming that the Lord will allow armies to make war on Jerusalem and it will be conquered....... Half of the people will leave and half must remain.
These two groups of the Christian peoples are shown again in Daniel 11:32 and Revelation 12:14 and 17

Daniel 7:25 ....the holy people will be delivered into his power for 3½ years. Referring to the Anti-Christ leader of the One World Govt.

Daniel 11:27 and 2 Thessalonians 2:4 show that this must take place in the holy Land.
 
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How then do you explain these prophesies? :-
Daniel's prophecy explained that.....specifically chapter 12:

Daniel 12:7
The man dressed in linen, who was standing above the river, raised both his hands toward heaven and took a solemn oath by the One who lives forever, saying, “It will go on for a time, times, and half a time. When the shattering of the holy people has finally come to an end, all these things will have happened.”
Who do you think the "holy people" were whose power was shattered? Didn't Jesus warn them personally that this was going to happen to them within a generation (40 years).....and they knew He was referring to them?

Luke 20:15-19
What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? 16He will come and kill those tenants, and will give the vineyard to others.”

And when the people heard this, they said, “May such a thing never happen!”
17But Jesus looked directly at them and said, “Then what is the meaning of that which is written:

‘The stone the builders rejected

has become the cornerstone’b?
18Everyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed.”

19When the scribes and chief priests realized that Jesus had spoken this parable against them, they sought to arrest Him that very hour. But they were afraid of the people.
 
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Daniel's prophecy explained that.....specifically chapter 12:

Daniel 12:7
The man dressed in linen, who was standing above the river, raised both his hands toward heaven and took a solemn oath by the One who lives forever, saying, “It will go on for a time, times, and half a time. When the shattering of the holy people has finally come to an end, all these things will have happened.”
Who do you think the "holy people" were whose power was shattered? Didn't Jesus warn them personally that this was going to happen to them within a generation (40 years).....and they knew He was referring to them?
Daniel 12 is entirely about the end times, the last days. Nothing in that chapter bears any relation to what happened in the 1st century.
Daniel was a man of great faith; his people are all the faithful believers.
Luke 20:15-19
What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? 16He will come and kill those tenants, and will give the vineyard to others.”
Exactly what will soon happen. The Lord will destroy all the apostate, ungodly peoples in all of the holy Land. Jeremiah 12:14
THEN; the faithful born again Christian believers will go there as God's people, who He always wanted there, but has never yet had. Jeremiah 12:15-17
 
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Daniel 12 is entirely about the end times, the last days. Nothing in that chapter bears any relation to what happened in the 1st century.
Correct.....but the "last days" is referring to the end of the Mosaic Covenant and the associated temporary temple religious system. That definitely has to do with the 1st century.
 
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Exactly what will soon happen.
It's happened already.

Luke 20:15-19
What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? 16He will come and kill those tenants, and will give the vineyard to others.”
Quoting Vladimir Moss:
As the Lord Himself had prophesied: “The Kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits thereof” (Matthew 21.43). Or as St. Paul put it: “What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect [from the Gentiles] have obtained it, and the rest were blinded” (Romans 11.7). Thus all the other peoples of the world were now given the opportunity of joining God’s Kingdom in the Church, “the Israel of God” (Galatians 6.16).

But for the Jews who rejected Him it was another matter. After their killing of Christ – which was not only regicide, but also Deicide, an act unparalleled in evil in the history of the world – there came upon them the punishment prophesied by Christ: “great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be” (Matthew 24.21). “That on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Assuredly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation…” (Matthew 23.35-36). This prophecy was fulfilled in 66-70 AD, when the Jews, incited by the Zealots, rose up in armed rebellion against Rome. The Roman Emperors Titus and Vespasian crushed the rebellion, destroyed the Temple and killed very many of the Jews. The extent of the slaughter is a matter of controversy, but the depth of the horror and suffering is beyond dispute.
 
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