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In marria 2 become 1

I am not my wife and my wife is not me, we are two distinct individuals. We don't become one person which would look silly and quite ridiculous. We become one in thought, not one person. She is not lost in me nor am I lost in her, we are distinct people yet one in purpose.

Hence the Church being the bride of Christ foes not mean we are adsorbed in Christ, but we are of one mind or thinking the same things
 
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I am not my wife and my wife is not me, we are two distinct individuals. We don't become one person which would look silly and quite ridiculous. We become one in thought, not one person. She is not lost in me nor am I lost in her, we are distinct people yet one in purpose.

Hence the Church being the bride of Christ foes not mean we are adsorbed in Christ, but we are of one mind or thinking the same things
the Bible say man will left the house of his fathers and will marry abd both will be ONE.
 
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Scripture uses covenant language, particularly that between a husband and wife.

Amen. The Bride would not want to become the Groom. The Groom would not want to lose the Apple of His Eye.
 
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If we are the bride of Jesus, we will be one with him, then one with god. following this logic we will be the god? i am not clear, I would like enlightment
There's this concept called perichoresis which is described by some as a circle dance. This is a dance that describes how the three persons of the trinity interacts. This concept says that when we are born again, we are invited to "join the dance" - we do not become a member of the trinity, but we are invited to participate.

What this means for the future cannot be said, but it is definitely beyond our imagining.
 
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There's this concept called perichoresis which is described by some as a circle dance. This is a dance that describes how the three persons of the trinity interacts. This concept says that when we are born again, we are invited to "join the dance" - we do not become a member of the trinity, but we are invited to participate.

What this means for the future cannot be said, but it is definitely beyond our imagining.
Is it biblical?
 
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Is it biblical?
Yes.

Do you know about that passage that says we participate in the divine nature?

I would also echo the concept of theosis, it's biblical. The bible stops short of declaring us God, God is God, and we are not, but God isn't like us and likes to share.

Since we are given a nature compatible with Him when we are born again, we can participate.

I find it helpful sometimes to think about, what purpose would Adam have had if the fall hadn't happened?

No real answer comes out of it, but I get the sense that God really wanted to enjoy something family related regarding that.
 
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Yes.

Do you know about that passage that says we participate in the divine nature?

I would also echo the concept of theosis, it's biblical. The bible stops short of declaring us God, God is God, and we are not, but God isn't like us and likes to share.

Since we are given a nature compatible with Him when we are born again, we can participate.

I find it helpful sometimes to think about, what purpose would Adam have had if the fall hadn't happened?

No real answer comes out of it, but I get the sense that God really wanted to enjoy something family related regarding that.
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When God commanded that we should have "no other gods" before Him that was to also preclude us idolizing ourselves. The bride might wonder at her beauty, but she dare not become enamored about it like the angle of light did.
 
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If we are the bride of Jesus, we will be one with him, then one with god. following this logic we will be the god? i am not clear, I would like enlightment
No. We will be like Jesus but we will not be Jesus. We will be united in a way that is incomprehensible to the mind. That is because we are fundamentally spirit beings, who have a soul and inhabit a body. God is entirely Spirit.
 
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If we are the bride of Jesus, we will be one with him, then one with god. following this logic we will be the god? i am not clear, I would like enlightment


This video is good for this sort of thing.

 
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If we are the bride of Jesus, we will be one with him, then one with god. following this logic we will be the god? i am not clear, I would like enlightment

Just as Father God, Son of God (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit are One as the One True God, so are we (Christians) are one with Him who does His will: Matthew 7:21, Matthew 12:50, Mark 3:34-35

If you read the last verse given, you see that the context is Jesus Christ in the center. This is key in showing us that He is our center, even in the Old Testament's Temple shows this as the camps of His people surround God's Temple.

We will not become as gods as the Serpent of old said to Eve: Genesis 3:5, but we are to know who God is by relationship with Him by putting Him first in our daily lives.

I hope this helps you. If you haven't already, please inquire wisdom from God. :yellowheart:
 
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If we are the bride of Jesus, we will be one with him, then one with god. following this logic we will be the god? i am not clear, I would like enlightment
We will never be God-but we will be like Him, transformed into His image, meaning, among other things, that we'll be immortal, holy, and love as He does -and experience happiness on an unimaginable level. In any case the ancient churches have always maintained that God's purpose is to "divinize" man, a work or process known in the east as "theosis".

A teaching I'm familiar with says that Adam "wanted to "be like God", but "without God, before God, and not in accordance with God". The desire, itself, wasn't wrong-headed but the means to achieve it was pure foolishness; it attempted to place man on the same level as God for all practical purposes, which cannot be, of course, and this is essentially the sin of pride. So the first thing we're here to learn now is that we're not God, but that there is a God and He's the only one true God whom we all disparately need in order to have life-let alone life abundantly, life worth living eternally.
 
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If we are the bride of Jesus, we will be one with him, then one with god.

As some have pointed out, one is always able to distinguish a wife from her husband, which means, in whatever sense they become one, it is not in the literal, physical sense where they take on one another's nature so that they are in every respect indistinguishable from one another. We don't take on God's divine nature such that we become God Himself, either. That is the old temptation of the devil in Eden: "You shall be like God..." Even if we could somehow become as God, we could never claim full equality with God, being created by Him and contingent upon Him. God has never been so, which is, in part, what makes Him God.

It's rather like the whole transgender business where a man tries to be as much like a woman as possible, even growing breasts, and altering his sexual organs, and consuming female hormones. No matter how much like a woman a man appears and behaves, his genes are always male. Even the most womanly transgendered man will never endure a monthly period, or undergo menopause, or become pregnant. Because, at his genetic core he is unchangeably a man, not a woman.

So, too, with us and God. No matter how much a human could appear to be God, like Him perfectly in respect to power, knowledge, presence and character, a human began to exist and he had a sin-nature at one point, and he was weak and ignorant, too. This has never been true of God. Never; for if it were true, He would not truly be God. By definition, God exists as a necessity of His own being, uncaused, unchanging, always having been perfect in all His various attributes, which no human could ever claim, no matter how God-like s\he could become.
 
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the Bible say man will left the house of his fathers and will marry abd both will be ONE.

It sure does, but that does not mean my wife becomes me and I become here. You seem to have a very strange idea of marriage. As if marriage magically makes one person morph or get absorbed into another one. That is not the case at all ever.

Marriage means that we think with one heart and mind. We are still two people, do you understand? Maybe you do not from your responses. The Church is the bride of Christ in the marriage of the Lamb, that does not mean we get absorbed into Christ like you are thinking. That thinking is definitely not Biblical to say the least sounds quite pagan
 
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I look for truth, the truth is easygoing

Not at all. Sometimes the truth is not easy to understand, Peter even said such about Paul. In fact we Christians are on a narrow road that is hard to navigate because the truth is hard. The road to hell is easy, because falsehoods are easygoing.
 
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It sure does, but that does not mean my wife becomes me and I become here. You seem to have a very strange idea of marriage. As if marriage magically makes one person morph or get absorbed into another one. That is not the case at all ever.

Marriage means that we think with one heart and mind. We are still two people, do you understand? Maybe you do not from your responses. The Church is the bride of Christ in the marriage of the Lamb, that does not mean we get absorbed into Christ like you are thinking. That thinking is definitely not Biblical to say the least sounds quite pagan
i understand you and i disagree

Not at all. Sometimes the truth is not easy to understand, Peter even said such about Paul. In fact we Christians are on a narrow road that is hard to navigate because the truth is hard. The road to hell is easy, because falsehoods are easygoing.
cannot be complicated
The truth sets free, the approach observed strains too much.
yesh truth sets free ¡!
 
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