The Son Is The Father's Intent

The Son Is The Logos, The Christ is the seed of Abraham.
Galatians 3:
15 Brethren, I speak in the manner of men:though only a man’s covenant,
yet confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it.
16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say,
and to seeds, as of many, but as of one, And to your Seed, who is Christ.

The Christ Is The Promise and The Oath of God made to Abraham.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh.
Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know no longer.

The Son of God is not simply "The Logos', He is Logos Theos.
While this may be translated Word of God or Word was God,
there is a bit more to that.
The Logos is not simply what God said, it is the intent behind the words.
Not what He said, what He meant. His purpose, the expression of His Will.
Jesus Christ is what God intended, and is therefore Truth.
For the one who said "Thy Word is Truth", also said "I Am the Truth".
Jesus Christ, therefore, is what God intended, as it is written:

Revelation 4:11 You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power;
For You created all things, and by Your will they exist and were created.

Paul describes The Son as The Logos Theos
Colossians 1:
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible
and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were
created through Him and for Him.
17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from
the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

Therefore, the Son of God can boldly proclaim:
Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,
the First and the Last.

RDKirk said:

I wouldn't call that controversial.

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And yet I consistently read comments that reflect a lack of understanding in regards to Christ
being "The Seed of Abraham", based on a man's covenant.

Minister Monardo said:

The Son Is The Logos, The Christ is the seed of Abraham.
Galatians 3:
15 Brethren, I speak in the manner of men:though only a man’s covenant,
yet confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it.
16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say,
and to seeds, as of many, but as of one, And to your Seed, who is Christ.

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1213 said:

I would like to know, what Biblical reason do you have to says that scripture is speaking of Jesus and not of the one and only true God? Or what Biblical reason there is to think Revelation 22:13 is speaking of the one and only true God?

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Revelation 1:
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must
shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John,
2 who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things
that he saw.
3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things
which are written in it; for the time is near.
4 John, to the seven churches which are in Asia:
Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the
seven Spirits who are before His throne,
5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the
kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,
6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever
and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him.
And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, says the Lord, who is
and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.

The Son of God speaks on the full authority granted to Him by His Father.
Therefore, He is the Word of God. No one has access to the Father, accept
through Him. He is Our Lord. We know Him as much more than the Son of
Man, Jesus Christ, He is the Lord, ascended to the right hand of the Father.
Proved to be the Son of God by the Resurrection from the dead. Romans 1:4
The firstborn of all creation, and from the dead.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh.
Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer.

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True, We only know of God through His Word.

Victor in Christ said:

Job 38:7....one star fell through pride, deception, arrogance, etc (Satan). The other star was in the Fathers bosom from the beginning, came down to earth took on a sinful body/flesh just for us, arose to sit at the right side of the Father. Revelation 1:8

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John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom
of the Father, He has declared Him.

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The Revelation that the Son of God gives to His servants informs them of what The Father
intended by His Word.
Colossians 2:9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

The Liturgist said:

So @Minister Monardo are you denying that Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, is the Only Begotten Son and Word of God, begotten of the Father before all ages, true God of true God, begotten, not made, of one essence with the Father, who for our sakes became incarnate of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and buried, and rose again on the third day according to the Scriptures, and whose kingdom shall have no end?

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Nope.

The Liturgist said:

So is Jesus God Incarnate?

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He was when He walked the earth. John 14:10 , 1 John 4:2

Now He is ascended to the right hand of power.
2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh.
Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer.

Last question. Unless you can explain to me by what granted authority you are quizzing me.
Please do not return to threads that I originate. You are never on topic, you always have an
agenda, and I have no interest in your opinion at this point.

The Liturgist said:

I am having some difficulty in understanding your message

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I posted a lengthy OP in post #1, scriptures with comments. I also posted in #3, 6, 8, and 11
in response to comments of others. Then you enter the discussion at #12 with this:

The Liturgist said:

So @Minister Monardo are you denying that Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, is the Only Begotten Son and Word of God, begotten of the Father before all ages, true God of true God, begotten, not made, of one essence with the Father, who for our sakes became incarnate of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and buried, and rose again on the third day according to the Scriptures, and whose kingdom shall have no end?

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Since we are trying to understand one another for discernment and possible fellowship. please
explain how you comment is in response to the topic in post #1, or others. I did see where you were
coming from when you asked about my response to 1213 and his use of the word 'separate', to which
I provided a thorough reply. In response, you ignored my reply and simply moved on to your next
question. Obviously, I know where you were coming from in testing a spirit by that question.

The Liturgist said:

I have no agenda other than to understand what you are posting.

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I cannot accept this explanation, as on every thread you never approach the topic, instead you start
discussing your own denominational beliefs about "chrismation and myrrh, 3 wise men, etc...
I love the scriptures and only come on this forum to discuss them, particularly those that direct
how we should be living as Christians, to exhort, encourage, and edify. I made it clear to you that
I do not use, nor do I feel it is necessary to refer to early church history, writings, and the refutation
of heresies. Are you familiar with Romans 16:19? I do not have to be knowledgeable in lies and
deception. My devotions are to the Lord, and all my studies from the scriptures and the threads I
post come from 2-4 hours of morning time with the Spirit. I can discern when someone is being devious
or insincere, and the only reason I am replying is your apology at the end, which acknowledges how
quick you are to try to classify others based on what you know of heresies. A very dark approach to
your sincere effort to discern others, to look for darkness, rather than light. I sincerely know nothing
about these things you bring up. Nescafe or Aboriginal whatever. You are talking to the wrong person.
I mentioned more than once that there are dedicated forums for that type of discussion. Not interested
in heresy. I have asked you multiple times to direct your responses to the scriptures. I posted:

Minister Monardo said:

2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh.
Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer.

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The Liturgist said:

For example, in your reply, it is not clear to me if you believe Jesus is no longer God incarnate or if we simply no longer know him in His incarnation because He ascended to Heaven, or if He is no longer existent in the flesh.

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While he remains the man Jesus Christ as indicated by post #15, 1 Timothy 2:5
His incarnation is now radically different as the "firstborn from the dead"
Romans 1:4 declared the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness,
by the resurrection from the dead.
One example of that uniqueness is that He no longer had blood post resurrection, appeared
in locked rooms,and ate food just to prove He wasn't a ghost.
Even allowing His disciple to prod His wounds.
As you mention, He is ascended into Heaven and while a man with a body, it is a glorified body
since "flesh and blood" are not of His Kingdom. John's description of Him at his visitation in Rev 1
also indicated some unique qualities, but remained essentially the description of a man.
Son of God, Son of man, we will know and understand this much better on this day:
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what
we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see
Him as He is.
Very awesome.

The Liturgist said:

The granted authority I have is as a fellow Christian minister who is interested in what you have to say,

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Since you seem to be coming around to what I was teaching on granted authority, I am going to
go over to that thread now to make a comment you directed towards Carl, but also toward
the thread.
Shabbat Shalom

A conversation between a father and son in the flesh.
One that I experienced on many occasions growing up.
father: son, I want you to do this, today.
son: yes sir, I will do it.
checking up later...
father:what are you doing!?
son:what you said to do!
father:I wanted you to do this!
son:but you said that...
famous fatherly quote:
"Don't do what I said, do what I meant"! [chuckle, chuckle.]

When we are obedient to Christ Jesus the Son of God,
we can always do what our Father intended, for the
Son is the logos theos