Is Joe Biden a Dictator?

Desk trauma · Feb 4, 2021

Jaxxi said:
Ummm. Yeah it is. Why are we a secular nation?

The constitution.

Our money doesn't say that and last time I testified in court, I didn't put my hand on the Qur'an.

You could have if you requested to or not used a holy text at all, it’s not a requirement.

Jaxxi · Feb 4, 2021

Lg2000 said:
this is true. I don't know where people get this idea this a Christian nation .
Biden just undoing all of trumps nonsense /terrible orders.
That's why executive orders don't mean much tbh. They can be reversed easily.

We get the idea because we say " In God we Trust" and " God bless America" and in court we don't swear on the Qur'an. What does being Christian have to do with the fact he called 12 orders Dictatorial when he signed 28?

Jaxxi · Feb 4, 2021

Victor in Christ said:
is he aiding abortion or trying to prevent it?

Aiding. He just gave them a bunch of money.

Desk trauma · Feb 4, 2021

Jaxxi said:
Aiding. He just gave them a bunch of money.

The Hyde amendment is still intact but don’t let that derail the indignation.

GreatLakes4Ever · Feb 4, 2021

Jaxxi said:
Ummm. Yeah it is. Why are we a secular nation? Our money doesn't say that and last time I testified in court, I didn't put my hand on the Qur'an.

Then you’ll have no issue pointing me to the part of the United States Constitution that says we are a Christian nation.

“In God We Trust” has been ruled by the Supreme Court as a form of “ceremonial deism” dictating no specific god since at least Lynch v. Donnelly in 1964. And Keith Ellison placed his hand on the Quran when he swore in as a Congressman back in 2006 and there have been others since him.

Lg2000 · Feb 4, 2021

Jaxxi said:
We get the idea because we say " In God we Trust" and " God bless America" and in court we don't swear on the Qur'an. What does being Christian have to do with the fact he called 12 orders Dictatorial when he signed 28?

silly idea. Regardless of what we say.
Founding fathers based it off state and religion being separate.You should learn the history on that buddy..
America has never been a Christian nation. I have zero clue how people think we are a Christian nation. Lot of people misinformed

Is America A Christian Nation?

Is America A Christian Nation? - Freedom From Religion Foundation

Speedwell · Feb 4, 2021

Jaxxi said:
Ummm. Yeah it is. Why are we a secular nation? Our money doesn't say that and last time I testified in court, I didn't put my hand on the Qur'an.

You could if you wanted, but there is no requirement that you swear on a holy book at all.

GreatLakes4Ever · Feb 4, 2021

Jaxxi said:
Here is the problem I have with you.You said " you guys". ?? Who is you guys? I am not a Republican or a Democrat so who are you referring to? How am I a hypocrite? I didnt vote for Trump, but I am concerned that Trump only had 12 executive orders. Therefore if Biden was just undoing what Trump did there would be 12 executive orders! Biden himself said 12 was " executive overreach that only a DICTATOR would do. Then he gets in and does 28?! Who is the hypocrite? Don't be so proud in your stance that you can't see cause for concern. Lets face it. Biden was NOT the best man for the job but he was the only other option to keep Trump from winning right? Maybe if we got some decent choices to choose from it wouldn't be like this. The solution? When voting they give us 2 from each party so we can choose the best man with the countries best interest. I am an American. I love the Constitution. Therefore I do not care what party they are with- if they are the best man for the Presidency they have my vote. This Republican Democrat thing is about old anyways. United we stand Divided we fall and Americans allowed the DIVISION? Does that make sense?

I honestly have no clue why this rant is directed at me. I didn’t use “You Guys” at all in this thread.

hedrick · Feb 4, 2021

While the number is down, a large fraction of the US is Christian. What we aren't is a *conservative* Christian country.

Jaxxi · Feb 4, 2021

public hermit said:
No, he's not a dictator. Dictators have absolute power. An EO is far from absolute power. It's not even a proper law, and can be changed with the next administration, as you can see. No, not only do we not have a dictator, but we have a bad habit of allowing the Executive Branch to put band aids on things Congress probably needs to address, IMO.

That is very true. Those are good points

Lg2000 said:
silly idea. Regardless of what we say.
Founding fathers based it off state and religion being separate.You should learn the history on that buddy. Do some research .
America has never been a Christian nation. I have zero clue how people think we are a Christian nation. Lot of people misinformed

Is America A Christian Nation?

Is America A Christian Nation? - Freedom From Religion Foundation

Buddy? Im a chick so whatever

Jaxxi · Feb 4, 2021

Desk trauma said:
The Hyde amendment is still intact but don’t let that derail the indignation.

What indignation? I am just concerned that at 12 he called that " executive overreach leading to dictatorship and then he does 28? He said it!

Jaxxi · Feb 4, 2021

GreatLakes4Ever said:
Then you’ll have no issue pointing me to the part of the United States Constitution that says we are a Christian nation.

“In God We Trust” has been ruled by the Supreme Court as a form of “ceremonial deism” dictating no specific god since at least Lynch v. Donnelly in 1964. And Keith Ellison placed his hand on the Quran when he swore in as a Congressman back in 2006 and there have been others since him.

So what is your point? The issue is that he himself called 12 executive orders leading to dictatorship and then did 28 himself. We could be a Hindu nation...it doesn't change what he said.

Jaxxi · Feb 4, 2021

Speedwell said:
You could if you wanted, but there is no requirement that you swear on a holy book at all.

That has nothing to do with the topic.

The IbanezerScrooge · Feb 4, 2021

Jaxxi said:
What indignation? I am just concerned that at 12 he called that " executive overreach leading to dictatorship and then he does 28? He said it!

It's already been pointed out that this was taken out of context and the accurate context of what he actually said has been provided. Why are you still on this?

Speedwell · Feb 4, 2021

Jaxxi said:
That has nothing to do with the topic.

Then why did you bring it up?

GreatLakes4Ever · Feb 4, 2021

Jaxxi said:
So what is your point? The issue is that he himself called 12 executive orders leading to dictatorship and then did 28 himself. We could be a Hindu nation...it doesn't change what he said.

I was pushing back against what you said in Post #40 when you were trying to use currency and a tradition at swearings that isn’t even that much of a tradition as reasons we are to be considers a Christian nation. We aren’t and I know the Constitution is in agreement with me on this. That’s why you won’t show me where in the Constitution it says we are a Christian nation, or even the word Christian for that matter.

As to your complaint about EOs, @Hank77 in Post #9 and @essentialsaltes in Post #31 I feel explained it well.

Hans Blaster · Feb 4, 2021

Speedwell said:
Right now he's not doing anything about it. He's got bigger fish to fry, in any case.

It always baffles me the attention given to such a minor issue.

Jaxxi · Feb 4, 2021

GreatLakes4Ever said:
I honestly have no clue why this rant is directed at me. I didn’t use “You Guys” at all in this thread.

Wrong person! Sorry friend!

Jaxxi · Feb 4, 2021

The IbanezerScrooge said:
He's just undoing the damage using the same method that was used to wrought it. You guys didn't care when Trump did it. I don't care that you care now. More power to him as long as he's helping the country and not actively destroying it.

Same with the deficit...

Same with "family values"...

Same with moral indignation with Democratic politicians but not with Republican ones...

Everyone is a hypocrite... and I don't care what morally and intellectually bankrupt and transparently, nay, unashamedly hypocritical Republicans think.

Who are you referring to when you said " You guys?" I am not a Republican so I would love to hear your answer.

essentialsaltes · Feb 4, 2021

Jaxxi said:
What indignation? I am just concerned that at 12 he called that " executive overreach leading to dictatorship and then he does 28? He said it!

He didn't say it. Or do you have evidence otherwise?

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