Regarding my post, it is based on scripture without the scripture references but if are confused where it is supported in scripture I would be happy to give the chapter and verse.
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Regarding my post, it is based on scripture without the scripture references but if are confused where it is supported in scripture I would be happy to give the chapter and verse.
Did scripture forget to mention it was valued? Did Moses forget to say "as you have observed for generations"? Unfortunately this is not a sustainable argument and if you would rather write inbetween the lines and fix the missing sections then this is an irresponsible way to approach scripture.
These are moral laws, not to mentioned those are addressed before law in various accounts. The sabbath law is a ceremonial law and there is no support for it being observed before the law.
The sabbath is ceremonial because the action is only valid one day a week (hence ceremonial) and the counter-action is not innatly wrong (moral code) and may freely be practiced on all other days. Something that is morally objective is valid all the time not just on special days.
If we are to call the Sabbath moral code then why isn't there a single example before the law of it being kept? Pre-law sacrifices are observed but keeping the Sabbath is not supported pre law.
The sabbath very clearly points to Christ where Christ offers his sabbath to us. Sabbath is restored relationship with God, and just as Adam was sent away from the Garden to toil and work over the soil Sabbath is an opportunity to return to the Garden as we rest from the toil and burden of the curse of sin. We value sabbath becasue God rested on the 7th day, this is true but God especially God created sabbath for us, not for him. Christ offers it saying "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest". What rest does Christ offer us? Physical rest? or is it something more?
circumcision is a sign of God's everlasting covenant with Isreal and explicitly physical circumcision, yet Paul shows us the form of circumcision is nothing. Sabbath is also a sign of God's everlasting covenant with Israel.... do you see where I'm going?
Could you clarify.
Christ explicitly tells us which is the greatest commandment and it's not one of the 10 so why do you jump to the 10 and not the commandment Christ tells us is the greatest when you see the word "commandment"?
you have come to the same conclusion by inserting sabbath where there is no mention of it. my conclusions are based on Genesis does not value the law of the sabbath enough to mention it's practice.To come to an opinion of the Sabbath based on no mention of it in a portion of scripture is not wise.Silence of the scriptures on a subject cannot mean it did not exist nor that it was not important.This is one of the rules of studying the scriptures.
clearly, we have come to different conclusions despite reading the same texts so you're going to have to do better than just say read the letters of Paul and James. I could say the same thing to you, but that's not a sustainable argument.And you have no clue as to how that command and the second greatest command relates to the ten?Paul and James hints at this relationship.Try reading them.
Christ says it himself, he invites us to come to him and he will give us rest. What word do you think be used when he said "rest". He is also "Lord of the Sabbath" so our participation of the Sabbath comes under his authorityWhere does scripture say Jesus is our Sabbath
The conditional arrangement of the Sabbath is implied based on a clear starting point. Even if there was regular participation of the Sabbath pre-law scripture does not value it enough to mention it and keeping it may indeed honor God but with the absence of the law it doesn't come under the law.Your assumption from silence is flawed thinking.Which of the commands you now do acknowledge as being relevant was shown in scripture to have been observed from the beginning?
Which scripture is it that supports your view that the Sabbath was conditional and not universal?
Because the Sabbath is a system of rules imposed upon a specific reoccuring day that does not apply to any other day and we practice it in rememberance (which is sort of the definition of ceremonial). If we call it moral then why is working sometimes good and sometimes bad? It is then conditionally moral and not universally moral such as stealing, killing, and lying would be. It also has no clear wrong/right action it simply is done in a manor in rememberance and we rest because God rested. so calling it a moral law would be inspite of everything saying it is a ceremonial law.What is it that makes the Sabbath ceremonial and other laws moral?What is your definition of these terms and the scriptures which support the definition?
Who's talking about replacing anything? Christ was there when the Sabbath was made. He can give it because it's his to give.It is not about Jesus replacing the seventh day Sabbath but is a call God is constantly sending out to His people pleading with them to turn from sin.
You seem to have come to your conclusions before taking time to understand my posts. This would be called a bias.If you would only read,quote or at the very least cite the scriptures you base your opinions on then you would see they say nothing concerning the Sabbath being the sign of any covenant.But then you don't really want to know,do you?
Brother, many Christian who have inherited the Jewish "human tradition" of Saturday have a "bias" about the forced reading of what Genesis reveals with the word "morning" capping the end of the first day.You seem to have come to your conclusions before taking time to understand my posts. This would be called a bias.
Sister, the Bible is clear on the subject of the Sabbath with the manna story, the Passover rule, and the International Date Line as an overwhelming confirmation of what Genesis reveals. It is the "human tradition" of the church that "confuses" people into keeping a "human tradition", away from the true biblical Sabbath. The Bible opposes the church's point of view when it reveals that the first day ends capped on a "morning" and not an "evening". The church is forcing God to say something that He did not say in Genesis when God revealed the days of creation from "morning" to "morning" and not from "evening" to "evening" because the Sabbath does not fall on a weekday in Israel.so others are not confused by the topic.
Did our all powerful God need rest?The first occurrence of Sabbath is in verb (Strongs 7673) from for when God "rested". But of course, God doesn't need to rest and the word can also be translated as ending, stopping or ceasing and this is the focus in the context of the 7th day, God ceased the former 6 days off creation. It is not "rest" in context it is matter-of-factly presented that God ceased and the next thing we know on the subject is 2500 years later.
10 COMMANDMENTS IN THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT
Maybe you don’t understand what a denomination means, like you did not understand what it means to have copyrighted property. A denomination means you have a certain set of beliefs so people can classify you and understand what those beliefs are. The SDA church has 28 fundamental beliefs that is required to become a member. You admit you do not believe what the SDA church believes, nor to you attend SDA church but you are going around bearing false witness against the SDA by sharing your belief that goes against what is required as an SDA. This is considered false witnessing. This is a sin. The Bible warns us about false prophets and you will be able to tell one if they are going against what the Bible teaches. Breaking one commandment is like breaking all of them. Something to pray about.Brother, many Christian who have inherited the Jewish "human tradition" of Saturday have a "bias" about the forced reading of what Genesis reveals with the word "morning" capping the end of the first day.
Sister, the Bible is clear on the subject of the Sabbath with the manna story, the Passover rule, and the International Date Line as an overwhelming confirmation of what Genesis reveals. It is the "human tradition" of the church that "confuses" people into keeping a "human tradition", away from the true biblical Sabbath. The Bible opposes the church's point of view when it reveals that the first day ends capped on a "morning" and not an "evening". The church is forcing God to say something that He did not say in Genesis when God revealed the days of creation from "morning" to "morning" and not from "evening" to "evening" because the Sabbath does not fall on a weekday in Israel.
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was MORNING—the first day. (Genesis 1:3-5 NIV)
United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
Sister, understand that we do not belong to a denomination, but to Jesus. Did you convert from the Roman Catholic Church? They put the church first and not God dealing directly with each of us individually. I'm in good company!Maybe you don’t understand what a denomination means, like you did not understand what it means to have copyrighted property. A denomination means you have a certain set of beliefs so people can classify you and understand what those beliefs are. The SDA church has 28 fundamental beliefs that is required to become a member. You admit you do not believe what the SDA church believes, nor to you attend SDA church but you are going around bearing false witness against the SDA by sharing your belief that goes against what is required as an SDA. This is considered false witnessing. This is a sin. The Bible warns us about false prophets and you will be able to tell one if they are going against what the Bible teaches. Breaking one commandment is like breaking all of them. Something to pray about.