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BBAS 64 said:

Good Day, Zoidar

He is worth of our Praise simply because He is God, and if he chose to do nothing He would still be worthy.

In Him,

Bill

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Of course that is true. But that is not what Ephesians 1:4-6 is talking about.

Hammster said:

When God the Son glorifies God the Father, that’s “God” glorifying Himself.

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I still think it's the wrong way to put it since it's not the same "part" of God glorifying "himself". Three different persons are giving each other glory. I would rather say God is glory. And the Bible never uses your wording. And not only that, something I can't put my finger on right now, sounds really amiss here. Do you for an example think it's correct to say God prays to himself?

BBAS 64 said:

Good Day, George Antonios

Sort of reminds me of Luther on Romans... another reason I am not a member of the Roman church.

The second thought is that all objections to predestination proceed from the wisdom of the flesh. Hence, whoever does not deny himself and does not learn to keep his thoughts in subjection to the divine will, never will find an answer to his questions. And that rightly so, for the foolish wisdom of the flesh exalts itself above God and judges his will, just as though this were of little importance… For this reason the Apostle refutes all objections with two brief statements [Rom 9:20 and 21].

Book of Romans - Martin Luther’s Bible Commentary

In Him,

Bill

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Not sure I followed you there. What are you saying?

Is this thread dead, or what happened?

zoidar said:

Is this thread dead, or what happened?

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The name changed...

BBAS 64 said:

The name changed...

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as the old saying goes ..'to protect the innocent' ?

Agallagher said:

What are your thoughts on this subject.

Is following Christ Jesus Christ a choice?

Did Matthew when Jesus stated ‘follow me’ make the choice to do so? Maybe this one was predestined?

Either way, can people make the choice to follow God or completely reject him in this life? Or is it a preordained thing and only some people get to the choice to?

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How could someone not get the choice to?Jesus Christ is the most famous man on the planet and has been for 2000 years. He is the greatest man who ever lived. We all have had the glory of knowing about Jesus. Yes it is a choice. You would be hard pressed to find someone on earth who has never heard of Jesus Christ but I am sure there are some. Our God is a merciful God and those who never heard it did not have a choice, but everyone else has a choice. No one is forced to follow Jesus like they are forced to follow Islam or Muhammed. Muslim children have no choice until they get older. Even then, it is a difficult choice but they have one. Even if the choice is to die for Christ, they have one. A true Christian will die for Christ in a heartbeat because what is life without Him? Not worth living.