Biden wants to legalize 11 million illegals

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As the people of God who follow Christ and have His Spirit help set the oppressed free, help-to house those without a place to live, feed the poor and so on...this is our function in this world...to be His body...His hands...His heart...His feet...His mouth...love your neighbor as you your self would want to be loved regardless of yhour personal feelings (Love the action word not the emotion)
 
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RJS, thank you for that honest response! The law He was referring to (before the propitiatory action of His death, burial, and Resurrection) was the Torah, not the Roman civil law at the time...and yes He did say a lot about not accepting everyone into His kingsom (most of whom were obviously the hypocritical religionists)...

Matthew 7 was a good choice...verse 20 reads "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them" and that brings us back to what He reveals is His heart in Matthew 25. Many of them are also His brethren. Should we therefore judge them? Matthew 25 is a measuriing rod...it draws a line in the sand. Many who believe they are sheep said the magic words and/or took a bath, but like the five unwise virgins of the Church, in the end He will say, "I NEVER knew you". Therefore, I judged no one...let the Lord's words and actions be our guide. Before we judge them we need to each judge ourselves but whoever hurts even the least of His little ones is responsible for their action.

So we agree. Jesus doesn't accept everyone into his kingdom just cause they want in. Narrow is the way.

Romans tells us to obey the laws of the land. Jesus ibey d the laws of the land. You are very vague in your points. Speak plainly.

I will, illegal immigrants are violating our laws and violating the scriptures. Jesus never supports the violation of law. Neither do the apostles. The only thing is where God commands us to do one thing and the law counters that. Then we are to obey God rather than man.

But immigration law is not something that is covered in scripture.
 
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So we agree. Jesus doesn't accept everyone into his kingdom just cause they want in. Narrow is the way.

Romans tells us to obey the laws of the land. Jesus ibey d the laws of the land. You are very vague in your points. Speak plainly.

I will, illegal immigrants are violating our laws and violating the scriptures. Jesus never supports the violation of law. Neither do the apostles. The only thing is where God commands us to do one thing and the law counters that. Then we are to obey God rather than man.

But immigration law is not something that is covered in scripture.

true it is not covered in scripture but I thought I was being very plain. Many of these are our brothers and sisters in Christ. They are His brethren...therefore we ought to be very careful how we judge them and we should be careful not to cause harm to the least of them. The laws of the land do not trump the cause of Christ (Matthew 25:31-46). Love your neighbor as yourself. They are our neighbors and most of them are NOT thieves, drug lords, rapists and alcoholics. Most of them are people escaping oppression and hunger and lack of opportunity. Most of them work really hard for little pay doing jobs MOST Americans would not even consider doing. IMHO we should at least after vetting the individuals offer them every chance to become United States citizens not just rip apart their families and deport them.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


When we are merciful we will recieve mercy, when forgining we will be forgiven, when we plant love and compassion we will reap it...
 
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true it is not covered in scripture but I thought I was being very plain. Many of these are our brothers and sisters in Christ. They are His brethren...therefore we ought to be very careful how we judge them and we should be careful not to cause harm to the least of them. The laws of the land do not trump the cause of Christ (Matthew 25:31-46). Love your neighbor as yourself. They are our neighbors and most of them are NOT thieves, drug lords, rapists and alcoholics. Most of them are people escaping oppression and hunger and lack of opportunity. Most of them work really hard for little pay doing jobs MOST Americans would not even consider doing. IMHO we should at least after vetting the individuals offer them every chance to become United States citizens not just rip apart their families and deport them.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


When we are merciful we will recieve mercy, when forgining we will be forgiven, when we plant love and compassion we will reap it...

I certainly am hoping you aren't advocating for scripture to determine government policy. That's called a theocracy. You don't believe in a theocracy do you?

Do you believe Jesus or the apostles were trying to tell governments what to do?

And the old send me your tired poem, was just a poem. It was not a declaration of the United States for open borders or setting precidence of law.
 
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I certainly am hoping you aren't advocating for scripture to determine government policy. That's called a theocracy. You don't believe in a theocracy do you?

Do you believe Jesus or the apostles were trying to tell governments what to do?

And the old send me your tired poem, was just a poem. It was not a declaration of the United States for open borders or setting precidence of law.

Your POOR....and no I am not advocating a theocracy at all. I am asking Christians to act like Christ. There was no immigration policy then. The first one was 1875 and it was just a law to exclude Chiinese women followed in 1882 to include men as well of ANY East Asian country or culture. After this it was progressive and changed regularly until the version we use now (with minor changes) was not developed until 1965. Yes sneaking in IS against the law...you are correct, but WE can be the more humane voice in the matter.
 
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I love how the argument against providing a path to citizenship is always "They will vote Democratic" and blocking it instead of wondering why immigrants were more likely to vote Democratic.

Being neither and having no allegiance to either "party" I do think that whichever side works WITH them to secure cirtizenship would win their votes.
 
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