Prayer to 'Daddy'

Carl Emerson · Jan 23, 2021

Friends,

I just heard a church leader praying to "Daddy" rather than Father...

I understand the enormous Love in the Fatherhood of God but also understand the Holy Fear that goes with that.

I therefore struggle with the Godhead being addressed in this way.

The Holy Clean Fear of Him is a friend that keeps me from slipping into unrighteousness.

Somehow the title Daddy doesn't convey the respect that our Father demands.

As a prodigal son I do understand and experience His open arms of Love.

Your comments appreciated.

mlepfitjw · Jan 23, 2021

Seems silly to me personally Carl. I would have just rolled my eyes, the man is probably a believer though so God bless'em. People are people and we are all different. Like all the flowers in the earth.

Paidiske · Jan 23, 2021

In general, different people have different needs in how they conceptualise and relate to God. Therefore, a variety of terms can be a pastorally useful (and theologically robust) approach.

I have no problem with informal terms like "daddy" but think they need to be balanced with all of the other ways Scripture encourages us to think of and speak to God. A steady diet of only one is likely to lack balance over time.

disciple Clint · Jan 23, 2021

Carl Emerson said:
Friends,

I just heard a church leader praying to "Daddy" rather than Father...

I understand the enormous Love in the Fatherhood of God but also understand the Holy Fear that goes with that.

I therefore struggle with the Godhead being addressed in this way.

The Holy Clean Fear of Him is a friend that keeps me from slipping into unrighteousness.

Somehow the title Daddy doesn't convey the respect that our Father demands.

As a prodigal son I do understand and experience His open arms of Love.

Your comments appreciated.

FactChecker: Does ‘Abba’ Mean ‘Daddy’?
When listening to a sermon on the Fatherhood of God, we’ve heard it more times than we can probably count: the illustration that when Jesus refers to his Father as abba, it is a very comfortable, deeply intimate child-like term, interpreted as either papa or daddy. Jesus uses the term once in Mark’s gospel and Paul uses it two times in Romans and Galatians.

Of course, the bible teacher or pastor’s purpose in explaining the word abba this way is to show us that Jesus had a very intimate relationship with his father, not stoic or merely positional. It is what a loving father has with his son and the son who lives securely and comfortably in that love. It is an important message—and it is true.

Carl Emerson · Jan 23, 2021

Paidiske said:
I have no problem with informal terms like "daddy" but think they need to be balanced with all of the other ways Scripture encourages us to think of and speak to God. A steady diet of only one is likely to lack balance over time.

This was a steady diet...

Carl Emerson · Jan 23, 2021

It seems that in the cultural context, the word Abba did not mean 'daddy' in the way it is used today.

WebersHome · Jan 24, 2021

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• Rom 8:15 . . For you have not received a spirit of slavery again to fear; but you have received a spirit of adoption, whereby we call out: Abba, Father!

Abba isn't a translated word; it's the actual word; i.e. transliterated; and it's neither Greek nor Hebrew, rather, it's Aramaic.

Abba refers to one's male parent but not as an ordinary noun. It's a filial vocative.

For example: When my son points me out to one of his friends and says "That's my dad over there." he's not using my relation to him as a vocative. But when he shouts "Hey dad, I'm over here!" then my relation to him becomes a filial vocative because he's addressing me rather than talking about me with his friends.

The spirit of adoption is the spirit of God's son.

• Gal 4:6 . . As proof that you are children, God sent the spirit of His son into our hearts, crying out: Abba, Father!

People lacking the spirit of adoption-- a.k.a. the spirit of His son --should never address God as they would their kin because He isn't.

• Rom 8:9 . . If anyone does not have the spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

NOTE: Adoption is a very important element of Christianity. By it, people are taken into God's home as one of His own, given His name, afforded His affections, and allotted an inheritance.

Pretty amazing.
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Lg2000 · Jan 24, 2021

I would feel uncomfortable calling god daddy but I don't think it's disrespectful .
My thing is father .that's what I call god but yeah we all different .

Carl Emerson · Jan 24, 2021

WebersHome said:
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• Rom 8:15 . . For you have not received a spirit of slavery again to fear; but you have received a spirit of adoption, whereby we call out: Abba, Father!

Abba isn't a translated word; it's the actual word; i.e. transliterated; and it's neither Greek nor Hebrew, rather, it's Aramaic.

Abba refers to one's male parent but not as an ordinary noun. It's a filial vocative.

For example: When my son points me out to one of his friends and says "That's my dad over there." he's not using my relation to him as a vocative. But when he shouts "Hey dad, I'm over here!" then my relation to him becomes a filial vocative because he's addressing me rather than talking about me with his friends.

The spirit of adoption is the spirit of God's son.

• Gal 4:6 . . As proof that you are children, God sent the spirit of His son into our hearts, crying out: Abba, Father!

People lacking the spirit of adoption-- a.k.a. the spirit of His son --should never address God as they would their kin because He isn't.

• Rom 8:9 . . If anyone does not have the spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

NOTE: Adoption is a very important element of Christianity. By it, people are taken into God's home as one of His own, given His name, afforded His affections, and allotted an inheritance.

Pretty amazing.
_

Nice response thanks...

I am still not sure that the modern term Daddy is the correct rendering of Abba. Somehow if feels shallow...

Should we be praying "Our daddy in heaven, hallowed be your name...

Daddy doesn't seem a hallowed name...

WebersHome · Jan 25, 2021

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Galatians 4:6 nor Romans 8:15 speak of two particular spirits:

1» The spirit of adoption, and

2» The spirit of God's son.

I wasn't an adopted child. I lived with, and was raised by, my biological parents. So the spirit of adoption is a bit of a mystery to me.

Apparently its purpose is to enable those accepted into God's family to feel the affection, and the friendship, and the security feelings that natural-born boys and girls feel with their birth parents. (I'm speaking of a normal home here rather than dysfunctional)

Now, it wasn't difficult for my parents to convince me that I was their son. I think that conviction sort of comes with the package when you're a natural-born child, i.e. a child born in the home instead of a child brought into the home.

Apparently the spirit of God's son enables His adopted children with a sense of belonging; and a strong conviction that their association with God is not only permanent, but also on a true parent/child level, and they need not ever fear being disowned.

Sometimes adopted children feel somewhat inferior to biological children; and I think that's likely a very normal reaction. The spirit of God's son is no doubt intended to counter those kinds of negative thoughts and insure that everyone in God's home feels just as equally belonging as Christ.
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Carl Emerson · Jan 25, 2021

WebersHome said:
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Galatians 4:6 nor Romans 8:15 speak of two particular spirits:

1» The spirit of adoption, and

2» The spirit of God's son.

I wasn't an adopted child. I lived with, and was raised by, my biological parents. So the spirit of adoption is a bit of a mystery to me.

Apparently its purpose is to enable those accepted into God's family to feel the affection, and the friendship, and the security feelings that natural-born boys and girls feel with their birth parents. (I'm speaking of a normal home here rather than dysfunctional)

Now, it wasn't difficult for my parents to convince me that I was their son. I think that conviction sort of comes with the package when you're a natural-born child, i.e. a child born in the home instead of a child brought into the home.

Apparently the spirit of God's son enables His adopted children with a sense of belonging; and a strong conviction that their association with God is not only permanent, but also on a true parent/child level, and they need not ever fear being disowned.

Sometimes adopted children feel somewhat inferior to biological children; and I think that's likely a very normal reaction. The spirit of God's son is no doubt intended to counter those kinds of negative thoughts and insure that everyone in God's home feels just as equally belonging as Christ.
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Yes... well put...

And this belonging is assurance of salvation which is permanent as you say.

So many seem to struggle with the idea that we can know we wont fall away.

Carl Emerson · Jan 25, 2021

There are in fact 7 spirits mentioned in Isaiah 11 that we receive, one of which seals our salvation according to Jer 32:40.

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