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Because I said this comment and it does not agree with what one wants to teach which seems to be that God only has righteous among church my comment is deleted. I do not judge them they just follow their church but I will not tolerate the harshness they feel they have to do to follow Christ. I know they don’t want to but to follow Christ. And Christ will forgive them if they don’t know such behaviour is wrong


You do not earn your salvation by voluntarily taking up suffering that is not necessary but every Christian will have trials and tribulations the closer they are following God to have rewards. Everyone has trials and tribulations if they are followers of Christ but the more one has for the gospel determines one greater rewards. If you want to say only those who go to church can follow Christ then there is nothing righteous about that for one is not avoiding taking up crosses to follow Christ for one would be willing to but God won’t let him just because he is not part of the church
 
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Why do you believe people do these things mikeforjesus? Why do people hate others even when people proclaim to have believe in God and love other people?

Maybe you are right, it is because they do not really understand. Recently got a warning here due to a simple question about transgenders if they can be christian? I wrote my heart out when it submitting a removal, but human beings are sometimes really biased in their hearts... maybe they don't understand the true forgiveness of God... guess it is good not to trust men and instead trust God.
 
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I believe if it is just having trouble understanding one perspective it should be tolerated. One has to submit to the truth. For example one can think transgenders are Christian if they really struggle with the sin but as a Christian one would understand one can be new Christian but he has to struggle to get new desires and or struggle against the sin
 
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I believe God wanted us to be united to be known by our love for one another to be united most importantly in love. And God wants us to really be wise and love our enemies to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. That means not to be wise in treating enemies with hatred but to avoid involving in divisions and grow in wisdom and love
 
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Because I said this comment and it does not agree with what one wants to teach which seems to be that God only has righteous among church my comment is deleted. I do not judge them they just follow their church but I will not tolerate the harshness they feel they have to do to follow Christ. I know they don’t want to but to follow Christ. And Christ will forgive them if they don’t know such behaviour is wrong


You do not earn your salvation by voluntarily taking up suffering but every Christian will have trials and tribulations the closer they are following God to have rewards. Everyone has trials and tribulations if they are followers of Christ but the more one has for the gospel determines one greater rewards. If you want to say only those who go to church can follow Christ then there is nothing righteous about that for one is not avoiding taking up crosses to follow Christ for one would be willing to but God won’t let him just because he is not part of the church
Church is not something you go to. Church is all those who are born again. When Christians realise what has done for them in Christ, questions are answered and problems resolved. If Christians would focus on Christ and the cross, life would become much less complicated.
 
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True, forgiveness on the one hand and the temperance it takes by those who are mature to bring them up (Ephesians 4:32). But then on the other hand, the process of caring for the general health of the Church shouldn't be denied either (1 Corinthians 5:11). And that is the point, a failure to process a correct time to implement either one of these should never be allowed to fall short and exclude the other.
 
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Hello rockanchor you are right forgiveness, with temperance is key. You mention caring for the general health of the church. Would you explain to me what you mean by the 'church', do you mean a material building or do you mean building up of others in faith in God?

Hello Aussie, you are right about that, the church is not something we go to. The church is all the different members of the body of Christ who is the according to the book of Colossians 1:18 Christ is also the head of the church, which is his body. He is the beginning, supreme over all who rise from the dead. So he is first in everything. You are so right about if we focus on our relationship with God and the Lord Jesus Christ life can be come way less complicated.

Thank you both for your time.

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I believe God wanted us to be united to be known by our love for one another to be united most importantly in love. And God wants us to really be wise and love our enemies to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. That means not to be wise in treating enemies with hatred but to avoid involving in divisions and grow in wisdom and love

It seems to me we both are in agreement here. As Christians we are given the ability to discern from what is good, and what is bad fruit that can come from us as humans. We have all had bad fruit in our lifetime so we are able to realize it especially if we look at ourselves in the mirror and remember who the old man once was, and being forgiving to others who do not understand. We love and pray for them, regardless of who they are or what they have done. Thank you for your thoughts.

God bless you all, and remember you are important, you matter, and God does love you.
 
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Why do you believe people do these things mikeforjesus? Why do people hate others even when people proclaim to have believe in God and love other people?

Maybe you are right, it is because they do not really understand. Recently got a warning here due to a simple question about transgenders if they can be christian? I wrote my heart out when it submitting a removal, but human beings are sometimes really biased in their hearts... maybe they don't understand the true forgiveness of God... guess it is good not to trust men and instead trust God.
I’ve had a couple of warnings already, apparently, changing the topic makes you a troll... Jesus often changed topics :)
 
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True, forgiveness on the one hand and the temperance it takes by those who are mature to bring them up (Ephesians 4:32). But then on the other hand, the process of caring for the general health of the Church shouldn't be denied either (1 Corinthians 5:11). And that is the point, a failure to process a correct time to implement either one of these should never be allowed to fall short and exclude the other.

maybe I shouldn’t have unfriended as I may represent Christ as not loving but I thought I can not pretend to be ok with never being seen as being able to be acceptable to God if I follow what I believe is pleasing to God not just to be judged for not believing as one does

the bible says he who hides hatred has lying lips
 
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I’ve had a couple of warnings already, apparently, changing the topic makes you a troll... Jesus often changed topics :)

Psalm 27, thank you for sharing! At least I do not feel so alone in this :p - high fives - Interesting about Jesus changing topics would you like to know one of my favorite things about Jesus that I really admired?

When he would be talking to the pharisees, and he would say something so profound, then he would disappear into the crowds of people. haha! Always amazed me.
 
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Would you explain to me what you mean by the 'church', do you mean a material building or do you mean building up of others in faith in God
Hello 'Agallagher'! Sure, in the NT we have instances of both. When Jesus spoke of 'My Father's house', I believe He was also referring to both as in the 'brick & mortar' building (1 Corinthians 1:2) and the home Church (Romans 16:5).
 
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Would you explain to me what you mean by the 'church', do you mean a material building or do you mean building up of others in faith in God
On your point, it is the work of the ministry varying 'gifts' of course is His best alternative.
 
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Because I said this comment and it does not agree with what one wants to teach which seems to be that God only has righteous among church my comment is deleted. I do not judge them they just follow their church but I will not tolerate the harshness they feel they have to do to follow Christ. I know they don’t want to but to follow Christ. And Christ will forgive them if they don’t know such behaviour is wrong


You do not earn your salvation by voluntarily taking up suffering but every Christian will have trials and tribulations the closer they are following God to have rewards. Everyone has trials and tribulations if they are followers of Christ but the more one has for the gospel determines one greater rewards. If you want to say only those who go to church can follow Christ then there is nothing righteous about that for one is not avoiding taking up crosses to follow Christ for one would be willing to but God won’t let him just because he is not part of the church
Who deleted your comment?
 
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Psalm 27, thank you for sharing! At least I do not feel so alone in this :p - high fives - Interesting about Jesus changing topics would you like to know one of my favorite things about Jesus that I really admired?

When he would be talking to the pharisees, and he would say something so profound, then he would disappear into the crowds of people. haha! Always amazed me.
I have found that my new church is through an online pastor who preaches with Fire for the Lord! He gets me so excited! This man is a true Christian, the real deal, and he is not rich but the Holy Spirit fills him and he is on fire! He knows his scripture and I cannot get enough of him!
 
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Who deleted your comment?

I do not know if it is Facebook but a dear friend I know she is a very kind person and has her reasons and probably because she thinks I am insensitive but that is her own fault of not knowing Christ truly. It is very sad that I unfriended as she is a dedicated Christian and really seems good intentioned and often accepted other Christians and opened her heart unlike most but it seems she is not too sure about her beliefs about other Christians and she is an orthodox Christian and she seems to think it is just that if people are not agreeing with church whether she believes other churches are accepted or not that they deserve judgement I didn’t think I should give the impression that I feel that I am ok with that so as just to pretend I really think we deserve to be treated like that and that she really regards me as a friend and just to wait for my doom and to make stumbling blocks so I felt I should leave
 
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Because I said this comment and it does not agree with what one wants to teach which seems to be that God only has righteous among church my comment is deleted. I do not judge them they just follow their church but I will not tolerate the harshness they feel they have to do to follow Christ. I know they don’t want to but to follow Christ. And Christ will forgive them if they don’t know such behaviour is wrong


You do not earn your salvation by voluntarily taking up suffering but every Christian will have trials and tribulations the closer they are following God to have rewards. Everyone has trials and tribulations if they are followers of Christ but the more one has for the gospel determines one greater rewards. If you want to say only those who go to church can follow Christ then there is nothing righteous about that for one is not avoiding taking up crosses to follow Christ for one would be willing to but God won’t let him just because he is not part of the church

I'm having a slight problem with your wording here and it's making reading your post slightly confusing... so I apologize in advance.

However, are they suggesting you attend church? You should, if your saved, desire to attend church. It is there with your local body of Christ that you partake in the Lords supper, water baptism, be around other believers and be encouraged in Christ etc.

In fact, scripture itself tells you "not to forsake the meeting, as is the habit of some.." (Hebrews 10:24-25) because there are too many positives meeting in person with our fellow Christians that we can't do alone...

Certainly illness, disability and more can make church attendance difficult and in such cases we all do our best, but it's not about whether you can be saved, it's whether your doing the best things in your Christian walk that you can possibly do for the health of your faith.

Life doesn't exist in a vacuum, and neither does a healthy faith. We need one another in this physical world, as well as need physical connections. This is why God gave us one another.
 
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I'm having a slight problem with your wording here and it's making reading your post slightly confusing... so I apologize in advance.

However, are they suggesting you attend church? You should, if your saved, desire to attend church. It is there with your local body of Christ that you partake in the Lords supper, water baptism, be around other believers and be encouraged in Christ etc.

In fact, scripture itself tells you "not to forsake the meeting, as is the habit of some.." (Hebrews 10:24-25) because there are too many positives meeting in person with our fellow Christians that we can't do alone...

Certainly illness, disability and more can make church attendance difficult and in such cases we all do our best, but it's not about whether you can be saved, it's whether your doing the best things in your Christian walk that you can possibly do for the health of your faith.

Life doesn't exist in a vacuum, and neither does a healthy faith. We need one another in this physical world, as well as need physical connections. This is why God gave us one another.


Yes you are right but I do not share the view that baptism and the Lord supper is essential to being saved ever I have faith they are not though not being willing to do so may be a sign you don’t really love Christ and others but if one is sincerely believing in Christ and wishing to follow Him I think he can be saved. I have faith that they are not if others believe they need it they can do so but I believe baptism and maybe communion are essential to being united to God now fully and saved upon death.

No church is open now that is why we have zoom meetings and online churches and these forums. If you have opportunity to go to a church to fellowship it is a good opportunity to help others among people more mature maybe Christ promises to be where people gather together more so in person because you are helping person to be able to know if one is walking with Christ or not but one may already be walking in Christ and it is a chance to help more people when you grow because you may not know if one is well or not
 
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